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[Teh_Ocelot]

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lolMantis

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Haha exactly

[Derpy]

lolMantis aint bad. Makes raptor and incisor look like crap.

Im just gona spam my flamer anyway because I live in a free country and I can do whatever I want unless it breaks the law and the law don't say I cant spam flamer.

[ProviderOfPain99]

I don't really have an issue with it. I can see how other people do though... It is annoying to be blinded and it is a noob cannon of sorts.

[didacuscarr]

Teh_Ocel0t wrote...

Jrob wrote...

lolMantis

Haha exactly

I don't know about that, my Mantis GI's TTK is better than most, if not all, Geth Poopy Flamers I encounter in random lobbies. But then again, GI..

Modifié par N7didacus, 29 janvier 2014 - 03:47 .

[Teh_Ocelot]

[quote]N7didacus wrote...

[quote]Teh_Ocel0t wrote...

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lolMantis

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Haha exactly

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I don't know about that, my Mantis GI's TTK is better than most, if not all, Geth Poopy Flamers I encounter in random lobbies. But then again, GI..

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True, GI, but then that skews the equation heavily in your favor 

[N7 Tigger]

Ares_GoW wrote...

No idea op. Same goes for recon mine and snap freeze haters. Don't understand.

People hate Snap Freeze because if you cast any direct damage power it results in a powerful Cryo Explosion and the Paladin/lolbot gets credit for the kill. Personally, I think a dead enemy is a good result and don't care who gets the points. People tend to forget that Snap Freeze is also a great debuffer. 25% - 50% armor weakening is pretty handy on bosses and (correct me if I'm wrong) I believe debuffs remain in place after any combo detonation.

But I ****ing loathe Recon Mine spammers. In a 12 meter radius enemies are highlighted through walls/smoke, take 25% more damage from all sources and move 30% slower. Or you can denonate it, get a couple of cheap kills and obscure half the map with smoke.

[didacuscarr]

silentstep79 wrote...

N7didacus wrote...

 Also flamer has a DoT duration after flaming, so you don't even need to just spam flamer, use your gun more.

I love you.
forgot to mention that in my earlier post...

I.. should go. >.>

[FuriousFelicia]

I don't mind anything you use in this game as far as powers/nades/weapons go.

I sure hope that melee Juggernauts get routed out entirely though, even if it can be effective with support from trhee other flamers

[Teh_Ocelot]

l TIGGER l wrote...

Ares_GoW wrote...

No idea op. Same goes for recon mine and snap freeze haters. Don't understand.

People hate Snap Freeze because if you cast any direct damage power it results in a powerful Cryo Explosion and the Paladin/lolbot gets credit for the kill. Personally, I think a dead enemy is a good result and don't care who gets the points. People tend to forget that Snap Freeze is also a great debuffer. 25% - 50% armor weakening is pretty handy on bosses and (correct me if I'm wrong) I believe debuffs remain in place after any combo detonation.

But I ****ing loathe Recon Mine spammers. In a 12 meter radius enemies are highlighted through walls/smoke, take 25% more damage from all sources and move 30% slower. Or you can denonate it, get a couple of cheap kills and obscure half the map with smoke.

So this is good to know, I didn't realize the primer got the credit for the explosion, I thought the 2nd character to cast got the points, so that's all news to me. But again, effin a, the experience is SHARED lol so....who cares? BSN and their epeens man....

I don't run into a lot of people using Recon Mines so I guess I'll count myself fortunate b/c that sounds....excruciating.

[dudemacha]

I dont hate flamers, i hate geth trooper flamers with an acolyte
Why? because all they do is flame and gets really noisy and vision issues

[N7 Tigger]

Fortack wrote...

FuriousFelicia wrote...

Fortack wrote...

Lets create a co op game and give the players, who are supposed to work together, stuff to blind each other and make everyone's screen shake. Obviously, these things do not affect the AI in any way - they can look through everything and have pin point accuracy even when the world implodes.

Teamwork 2.0? ... seems legit.

But the point of team work is roles, positions and tactics. I don't see any particular tactics in four people clustered together, all shooting at the same thing. And in case of flamer, it's a flame thrower. It is supose to burn, and the bigger, the better, or would you preffer an over sized 30m ranged blowtorch?

The point of teamwork is to work together, to be stronger than the sum of all individual parts (when done right of course). Things like the Flamer are prone to accomplish the opposite hence why I don't particularly like it. Hell, I refuse to use stuff that is going to annoy my teammates instead of helping them out in a meaningful way. Anyone who wants to use it for some reason is free to do so, but I will stay as far away from those "teammates" as possible and don't revive them b/c I find the game more enjoyable without getting trolled by crap like that.

Good tactics mean that everyone does what they do best. Flamer kits ensure that their teammates' tactics won't work properly anymore unless they go lone-wolving - which is perfectly fine, but has little to nothing to do with playing tactically.

So, you try to tell us what teamwork is then say that you won't revive anyone who doesn't play your way.

[ClydeInTheShell]

I've never actually had a problem with the Flamer power itself; my problem has always been with the players using it.

A Flamer class (along with the Geth Juggernaut) is not a hall pass for Platinum.

[FuriousFelicia]

Ok people, if you like powers like: flamer, snap freeze, shield boost, hex shield, electric&biotic slash…the best thing to do to preserve face in front of the rest is find a spot on the map and stay there doing nothing for all waves except objectives.

That will sort out any problems other people might have with your powers.

[Tokenusername]

Lolteamwork

[Aetika]

FuriousFelicia wrote...

Ok people, if you like powers like: flamer, snap freeze, shield boost, hex shield, electric&biotic slash…the best thing to do to preserve face in front of the rest is find a spot on the map and stay there doing nothing for all waves except objectives.

That will sort out any problems other people might have with your powers.

Also shockwave, any grenades, repair matrix, stim packs, harrier, hurricane, acolyte, reegar, adas, black widow and Juggernaut...
(and I probably forgot to name some)

Modifié par Aetika, 29 janvier 2014 - 04:22 .

[Jovian09]

I've never had a problem with people using flamer.

[Miniditka77]

First, many people who use Flamer do so with little to no regard for the other players, and do things like flaming at other players' backs so they can't see anything.  Second, Flamer is a ridiculously awesome power that requires almost no skill to use, and a lot of players hate getting outscored by inferior players who do nothing but spam Flamer.

[Derpy]

My GT is built for flamer and arc pistol spam, problemz?

Inb4flamerscrub

Modifié par Nate_Assassin, 29 janvier 2014 - 04:26 .

[hellman77]

Teh_Ocel0t wrote...

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So this is good to know, I didn't realize the primer got the credit for the explosion, I thought the 2nd character to cast got the points, so that's all news to me. But again, effin a, the experience is SHARED lol so....who cares? BSN and their epeens man....

This isn't the point. Singularity is also a "point stealer" (or call it what you want), so both HAs will get their score significantly boosted if there are any bio detonators in their lobby. Some kits will just benefit more than others from certain things, Thats just they way it is.
Point is that Flamer/SF overwrites Biotics, so if you're in a biotic squad stomping Reapers on Glacier and a flamer joins the game, he's pretty much going to screw everyone over.
Flamer/SF kits are easy and rewarding kits to use, which is fine, but this also mean they are heavily overrepresented in lobbys.

[Dr. Tim Whatley]

The sound is ****ing annoying, and morons decide to ****ing spam it over my shoulder after I've killed everything there, and it gives me a ****ing headache.

It's the dumbest thing in the game, and unfortunately noob friendly, so everyone and their mother plays the GT.

[Fortack]

l TIGGER l wrote...

So, you try to tell us what teamwork is then say that you won't revive anyone who doesn't play your way.

To be honest, this game lacks any form of teamwork beyond the simple fact that four people fighting eight enemies is easier than one fighting eight. That's a poor way design a co op game.

Aetika wrote...

Oh, this is kind of cruel. Poor guys don´t even know why you are not reviving them.

I have to say I had many funny games with flamer users. Even if I was biotic. I just spammed throw and there were fire explosions everywhere. It was just as effective as any other strategy.

I am cruel and proud of it

I never said that flamers are not effective, considering how easy they are to use it is one of the most OP powers in the game (basically a Lolreegar-clone disguised as a power). I don't consider it fun to be the Flamer's lapdog spamming one power over and over again whilst ignoring my guns and other abilities (and without even seeing what the hell I am doing).

[Tokenusername]

This thread is pretty funny.

[mandalorian sun]

Flamer is too good, especially since the classes that have it are tanks or wolverine-calibre healers.

[Aetika]

Fortack wrote...

I am cruel and proud of it

I never said that flamers are not effective, considering how easy they are to use it is one of the most OP powers in the game (basically a Lolreegar-clone disguised as a power). I don't consider it fun to be the Flamer's lapdog spamming one power over and over again whilst ignoring my guns and other abilities (and without even seeing what the hell I am doing).

This is me and Flamer last time on hazard White (I am on the right)  

Modifié par Aetika, 29 janvier 2014 - 04:48 .

[Derpy]

Whats next? TC? Dat guy spams his TC and I got shot instead!