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[q5tyhj]

Miniditka77 wrote...
Are you mentioning vindaloo because you said "curries" or because we're talking about Flamer?  About 12 hours after I eat vindaloo, I am usually spamming Flamer with a 15-minute cooldown.

[Shampoohorn]

q5tyhj wrote...

Jeremiah12LGeek wrote...
I never have the problems that other people seem to.

If a PuG is good enough to actually be at the spawn at the same time, they usually know how to use Flamer. If they're not... then I generally won't see much flame action, since they'll be lagging behind.

I typically ignore the silly anti-flamer comments and do my thing. If a flamer user is proving to be a problem... I move slightly. Then it's not a problem. Seems easy enough.

Second this. 100% of people who complain about flamer are just lazy- bothered by the sound? Your TV has a volume control. Can't see? Take two steps to your right. Or your left. Or backwards. Or any direction. It's not that hard. 

85% of all statistics are made up on the spot.  At least based on anecdotal evidence. 

Regardless, speaking as a (relatively) good, competent player I can tell you that your 'solutions' are not that easy to implement in game. I'll also tell you that Flamer spam one of the few intrateam tactics that is detrimental to my ability to generate high DPS.  If you were able to kill enemies as fast as me, you might notice this too.  ;p 

Modifié par Shampoohorn, 29 janvier 2014 - 08:21 .

[Tokenusername]

If you were able to kill enemies as fast as you say, there wouldn't be a reason to use flamer near you.

[Shampoohorn]

Tokenusername wrote...

If you were able to kill enemies as fast as you say, there wouldn't be a reason to use flamer near you.

I was just being cheeky.  Retaliation for that 100% lazy comment.  Can I get an "Oh Snap!"?   

Modifié par Shampoohorn, 29 janvier 2014 - 08:29 .

[Tokenusername]

Shampoohorn wrote...

Tokenusername wrote...

If you were able to kill enemies as fast as you say, there wouldn't be a reason to use flamer near you.

I was just being cheeky.  Retaliation for that 100% lazy comment.   

If I had taken you seriously, that would have been a much longer post.

[coelacyanth]

Shampoohorn wrote...

85% of all statistics are made up on the spot. .....  

The irony!!!

[q5tyhj]

Shampoohorn wrote...

85% of all statistics are made up on the spot.  At least based on anecdotal evidence.  

Yeah, caught me red-handed. Still, I submit that my figure is 99% accurate. 

Regardless, speaking as a (relatively) good, competent player I can tell you that your 'solutions' are not that easy to implement in game. I'll also tell you that Flamer spam one of the few intrateam tactics that is detrimental to my ability to generate high DPS.  If you were able to kill enemies as fast as me, you might notice this too.  ;p 

Well, the sound thing really is that easy- if flamer, or cryo explosions, or whatever, are loud or obnoxious, turn your TV down, don't complain to someone else. But in general, flamer makes it hard to see when you're right in the AoE- which is what, like 2-3 meters across? A couple steps to the side, in either direction, or better yet repositioning entirely to flank the enemy, pretty much solves that problem. Not always possible, sure, but most of the time its pretty easy.  At worst, its a minor annoyance- certainly doesn't merit the belly-aching that flamer gets. 

Of course, none of this is to say that flamer can't be REALLY annoying when the person isn't using their brain, and just flaming indiscriminately and not thinking about how it affects everyone else- but I know from experience that people still complain about flamer, even when you're not being an idiot with it. That's just stupid. Indeed, I usually just laugh if/when I get a hatemail message about flamer- why should I care that you couldn't see things when I was killing them faster than you could scope them up anyways? Especially when you could have just moved a little bit? 

Besides, it isn't really an either/or- flamers can flame and other players can do their thing too, and while there may be some other attacks that generate more DPS than flamer, it's still a pretty useful and effective power. And, most importantly, its alot of fun; which basically trumps any objections to it in my book.

[q5tyhj]

Shampoohorn wrote...

Tokenusername wrote...

If you were able to kill enemies as fast as you say, there wouldn't be a reason to use flamer near you.

I was just being cheeky.  Retaliation for that 100% lazy comment.  Can I get an "Oh Snap!"?   

Don't worry, I smelled what you were cookin'... 

[Shampoohorn]

coelacyanth wrote...

Shampoohorn wrote...
85% of all statistics are made up on the spot. .....  

The irony!!!

But is it?  86% of instances that are claimed as examples of irony, are in fact not ironic.*

*This in itself is ironic. .... I think.

[coelacyanth]

Shampoohorn wrote...

coelacyanth wrote...

Shampoohorn wrote...
85% of all statistics are made up on the spot. .....  

The irony!!!

But is it?  86% of instances that are claimed as examples of irony, are in fact not ironic.*

*This in itself is ironic. .... I think.

9 out of 10 BSNers agree that every 1 BSNer in 10 would disagree with the other 9, which is ironic given your and mine earlier comments....

Modifié par coelacyanth, 29 janvier 2014 - 09:04 .

[mybudgee]

Flamer is for suckers

[LuckyBullet95]

NuclearTech summed it up brilliantly. In a few more words:

Flamer's graphic is painful to those around them. Also I find the Flamer playstyle quite boring. Why roast your opponents when you can blow their heads off? Why roast your opponents when you can SLICE their heads off? Also because cool kids spec Carnage.

[Striker93175]

My g/f doesn't even play video games... ever. But I was curious and wanted to test out a theory. I found a campy plat giant game, sat her in right hand cover behind the box at the LZ and had her hit the Y button every time the little " ( ) " icons came together to keep activating flame thrower... She scored #1. Didn't move for objectives. That is the problem w/ flamer IMO.

[LuckyBullet95]

Shampoohorn wrote...

coelacyanth wrote...

Shampoohorn wrote...
85% of all statistics are made up on the spot. .....  

The irony!!!

But is it?  86% of instances that are claimed as examples of irony, are in fact not ironic.*

*This in itself is ironic. .... I think.

I find that very unlikely... I have no idea why...

[Cainhurst Crow]

Its reputation went up in flames.

[Shampoohorn]

LuckyBullet95 wrote...

Shampoohorn wrote...

coelacyanth wrote...

Shampoohorn wrote...
85% of all statistics are made up on the spot. .....  

The irony!!!

But is it?  86% of instances that are claimed as examples of irony, are in fact not ironic.*

*This in itself is ironic. .... I think.

I find that very unlikely... I have no idea why...

Canadien?

[LuckyBullet95]

Shampoohorn wrote...

LuckyBullet95 wrote...

Shampoohorn wrote...

coelacyanth wrote...

Shampoohorn wrote...
85% of all statistics are made up on the spot. .....  

The irony!!!

But is it?  86% of instances that are claimed as examples of irony, are in fact not ironic.*

*This in itself is ironic. .... I think.

I find that very unlikely... I have no idea why...

Canadien?

No I'm way too much of a cunt.

[Shadohz]

This thread deserves to be flamed.

Noone disputes the usefulness of flamer power. It just highly annoys other players because it's overused/not used effectively like when scrubs use Hex Shield. If you have to ask WHY all the hate, then you're probably one of the people doing it. Be cognizant of the affects on your other teammates.

Modifié par Shadohz, 29 janvier 2014 - 11:05 .

[Sulaco_7]

Any kit that is not squishy is frowned upon by the BSN.. ezmode.

[eighteighty]

I think it's just that a lot of newer players use it inconsiderably and to play higher difficulties. You can tell when a good player is using the power and I never mind it.

[bondiboy]

Can be annoying on a map like Glacier if you have someone behind you flaming a spawn point as impossible to see the enemies . Mmmm how many phantoms spawn on this wave....

[mysilentgas]

Use what you want when you want, just one small detail any flamer over 5 seconds is lame use your gun the thing that goes daka-daka or pew - pew

[Strict31]

Jeremiah12LGeek wrote...

I never have the problems that other people seem to.

If a PuG is good enough to actually be at the spawn at the same time, they usually know how to use Flamer. If they're not... then I generally won't see much flame action, since they'll be lagging behind.

I typically ignore the silly anti-flamer comments and do my thing. If a flamer user is proving to be a problem... I move slightly. Then it's not a problem. Seems easy enough.

This. I'm happy to set off the fire explosions a flamer just primed for me. And I don't seem to have any problem shooting things through fire.

BSN is weird sometimes.

A lot of times.