Br3ad wrote...
If it comes from magic, it really wouldn't.MH19 wrote...
Templars run around in metal armor, a bolt of lightning should work wonders on them.
dragonflight288 wrote...
Starsyn wrote...
I think I beat the Arishok in about 90 seconds on my Force/Ele Mage. I'm not trying to be hyperbolic either.
There is one thing that mages have against them: They get tired. The MP/Mana mechanic in most RPGs reflect a mage's energy level. The more fatigued they are = the less mana they have.
In Thedas, they also usually don't have the luxury to just quaff a Lyrium potion either, since the Chantry has a lock on that. Even if they go through the black market, they wouldn't be able to get the quantities they'd need for a large scale war. The Templars would probably have regular fighters with them, and I think the mages would get overrun.
That might also be why the Circle/Chantry only wanted/allowed 7 mages to go to Ostagar....
although they let the Orlesians have as many mages as they wanted during the rebellion in Stolen Throne.
"The Caster wards an ally..."Rassler wrote...
dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-Magic_Ward
Yeah. BM would probably go right through the aura. Evangeline couldn't defend even against Blood magic laced fire.dragonflight288 wrote...
Br3ad wrote...
If it comes from magic, it really wouldn't.MH19 wrote...
Templars run around in metal armor, a bolt of lightning should work wonders on them.
What if it was powered by blood magic or lyrium? Then it would be considerably harder to resist.
And would hurt a lot.
Let's not open that can of worms. I prefer not to deal in demonic power when people are killing each other for dealng in demonic power, while we're dealing with a threat of demonic power.dragonflight288 wrote...
Br3ad wrote...
If it comes from magic, it really wouldn't.MH19 wrote...
Templars run around in metal armor, a bolt of lightning should work wonders on them.
What if it was powered by blood magic or lyrium? Then it would be considerably harder to resist.
And would hurt a lot.
MisterJB wrote...
"The Caster wards an ally..."Rassler wrote...
dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-Magic_Ward
Seems to me this spell can't be cast on oneself.
Starsyn wrote...
dragonflight288 wrote...
Starsyn wrote...
I think I beat the Arishok in about 90 seconds on my Force/Ele Mage. I'm not trying to be hyperbolic either.
There is one thing that mages have against them: They get tired. The MP/Mana mechanic in most RPGs reflect a mage's energy level. The more fatigued they are = the less mana they have.
In Thedas, they also usually don't have the luxury to just quaff a Lyrium potion either, since the Chantry has a lock on that. Even if they go through the black market, they wouldn't be able to get the quantities they'd need for a large scale war. The Templars would probably have regular fighters with them, and I think the mages would get overrun.
That might also be why the Circle/Chantry only wanted/allowed 7 mages to go to Ostagar....
although they let the Orlesians have as many mages as they wanted during the rebellion in Stolen Throne.
At the beginning of Origins, few were taking the Blight seriously. From what I recall of the mage origin, Gregior was one of those folks. Irving believed Duncan, but it wasn't entirely his call to send the mages. So I think that's why the Knight-Commander was so stingy on providing mages for Ostagar. Getting out from Orlesian rule was a problem that he felt justified sending more mages to. That's just my guesses, anyway.
Gregoire: We have already committed enough of our own!
Duncan: Only 7 mages have arrived. I've come to see if I can recruit more for the King's army.
MH19 wrote...
Templars run around in metal armor, a bolt of lightning should work wonders on them.
eluvianix wrote...
Neither does it defend against Templar powers, right?
Br3ad wrote...
Let's not open that can of worms. I prefer not to deal in demonic power when people are killing each other for dealng in demonic power, while we're dealing with a threat of demonic power.dragonflight288 wrote...
Br3ad wrote...
If it comes from magic, it really wouldn't.MH19 wrote...
Templars run around in metal armor, a bolt of lightning should work wonders on them.
What if it was powered by blood magic or lyrium? Then it would be considerably harder to resist.
And would hurt a lot.
I'm not sure. I definitely don't see anything that suggests it can in the wiki but it's not like I can test it because I deleted all my Dragon Age saves.eluvianix wrote...
MisterJB wrote...
"The Caster wards an ally..."Rassler wrote...
dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-Magic_Ward
Seems to me this spell can't be cast on oneself.
Neither does it defend against Templar powers, right?
Starsyn wrote...
I critical backstab you both while are you distracted. I get 120g and 300 experience.
You know, there is a helluva lot more regular fighters than just Templars or plain warriors you know. Probably more of us regular mundanes than mages out there. Or Templars, for that matter.
Watch your back.
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dragonflight288 wrote...
Umm,Gregoire: We have already committed enough of our own!
Duncan: Only 7 mages have arrived. I've come to see if I can recruit more for the King's army.
Greigor didn't seem to take the Blight very seriously, which is why he held back from sending more mages. And Gregoire wasn't the Knight Commander during the events of Stolen Throne, but they weren't offering mages to help the rebellion, they were giving the mages to the Orlesians to crush Maric, Loghain and the rebellion and maintain Orlesian rule.
That's why I hang out on the forums; to learn more.
The mages were from Orlais...and there was four of them.dragonflight288 wrote...
And Gregoire wasn't the Knight Commander during the events of Stolen Throne, but they weren't offering mages to help the rebellion, they were giving the mages to the Orlesians to crush Maric, Loghain and the rebellion and maintain Orlesian rule.
Modifié par MisterJB, 31 janvier 2014 - 10:44 .
Good point which also means it would be immune to any and all forms of insta-death because those require critical hits.Maria Caliban wrote...
Starsyn wrote...
I critical backstab you both while are you distracted. I get 120g and 300 experience.
You know, there is a helluva lot more regular fighters than just Templars or plain warriors you know. Probably more of us regular mundanes than mages out there. Or Templars, for that matter.
Watch your back.
A sword and shield warrior would be immune to flaking and to critical hits.
We don't know exactly how blood magic works, so let's not make assumptions like it doesn't still use demons even as an amplifier. It still has to be taught from somewhere either way.dragonflight288 wrote...
Br3ad wrote...
Let's not open that can of worms. I prefer not to deal in demonic power when people are killing each other for dealng in demonic power, while we're dealing with a threat of demonic power.dragonflight288 wrote...
Br3ad wrote...
If it comes from magic, it really wouldn't.MH19 wrote...
Templars run around in metal armor, a bolt of lightning should work wonders on them.
What if it was powered by blood magic or lyrium? Then it would be considerably harder to resist.
And would hurt a lot.
All right, avoid blood magic, which in this context has no summoning of demons at all and is merely an amplifier, and simply focus on the lyrium, which is also nothing more than an amplifyer to allow mages far more power in their spells.
True. But every mage won't have readily access to that.Nothing demonic about regular old blue lyrium.
Maria Caliban wrote...
A sword and shield warrior would be immune to flaking and to critical hits.
Modifié par Starsyn, 31 janvier 2014 - 10:51 .
MisterJB wrote...
Good point which also means it would be immune to any and all forms of insta-death because those require critical hits.Maria Caliban wrote...
Starsyn wrote...
I critical backstab you both while are you distracted. I get 120g and 300 experience.
You know, there is a helluva lot more regular fighters than just Templars or plain warriors you know. Probably more of us regular mundanes than mages out there. Or Templars, for that matter.
Watch your back.
A sword and shield warrior would be immune to flaking and to critical hits.
Modifié par Starsyn, 31 janvier 2014 - 10:49 .
MisterJB wrote...
"The Caster wards an ally..."Rassler wrote...
dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Anti-Magic_Ward
Seems to me this spell can't be cast on oneself.
Br3ad wrote...
We don't know exactly how blood magic works, so let's not make assumptions like it doesn't still use demons even as an amplifier. It still has to be taught from somewhere either way.
True. But every mage won't have readily access to that.Nothing demonic about regular old blue lyrium.
dragonflight288 wrote...
Br3ad wrote...
We don't know exactly how blood magic works, so let's not make assumptions like it doesn't still use demons even as an amplifier. It still has to be taught from somewhere either way.
We know that the Chantry destroyed most of the books and lore on it so the most common way of learning it is to make a deal with a demon, but Jowan didn't seem to learn from any demons at all at the same time Irving removed books on blood magic from the library, and you can learn blood magic from a tome in Awakening, (as well as the countess) so I think it's established that demons aren't the only source of learning.
Simply the easiest and by far the most common. But we can leave it be for now, sure.True. But every mage won't have readily access to that.Nothing demonic about regular old blue lyrium.
Very true.
I suppose I must simply come up with a source. :innocent:
Ahem.....I, King Thorin Aeducan(aka, dragonflight) hereby decree all mages welcome in Orzammar. They shall have facilities to learn and practice their magics. They shall have access to as much lyrium as they require before we sell our excess to the surface and the Chantry, as we already keep most off the lyrium for ourselves anyway. In exchange, the mages must in turn offer continual support against the darkspawn always at our gates, and treat our wounded.
Silfren wrote...
dragonflight288 wrote...
Br3ad wrote...
We don't know exactly how blood magic works, so let's not make assumptions like it doesn't still use demons even as an amplifier. It still has to be taught from somewhere either way.
We know that the Chantry destroyed most of the books and lore on it so the most common way of learning it is to make a deal with a demon, but Jowan didn't seem to learn from any demons at all at the same time Irving removed books on blood magic from the library, and you can learn blood magic from a tome in Awakening, (as well as the countess) so I think it's established that demons aren't the only source of learning.
Simply the easiest and by far the most common. But we can leave it be for now, sure.True. But every mage won't have readily access to that.Nothing demonic about regular old blue lyrium.
Very true.
I suppose I must simply come up with a source. :innocent:
Ahem.....I, King Thorin Aeducan(aka, dragonflight) hereby decree all mages welcome in Orzammar. They shall have facilities to learn and practice their magics. They shall have access to as much lyrium as they require before we sell our excess to the surface and the Chantry, as we already keep most off the lyrium for ourselves anyway. In exchange, the mages must in turn offer continual support against the darkspawn always at our gates, and treat our wounded.
*declares Exalted March on Orzammar* BURN THE HERETICS!
If The Warden helps Dagna join the Circle of Magi, she will later author a comprehensive theory of how lyrium vapors relate to the supply of magic. It gains a great deal of attention and inspires mages from other parts of Thedas to establish a new circle in Orzammar itself, one that has ready access to dwarven lyrium... and lies outside the chantry's power completely. The willingness of Orzammar to harbor Apostates sparks outrage that begins whispers that the Divine is contemplating a new Exalted march.
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