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[Battlebloodmage]

DragonKingReborn wrote...

Battlebloodmage wrote...

Didn't Bioware's canon warden is a Dalish elf? I would rather for a city elf takes the glory this time.

Default, not canon.  On topic, hopefully both are an option across the 3 classes.  Makes sense that an Elven Mage would be Dalish, in my opinion.

is the peace conference still the start setting?  If it is, then harder to see a Dalish showing up.  Also harder to see a Qunari, but I guess we'll find out in due course.

I used the words canon because it carries over to other forms of media like books and comics. Of course everyone also has their own canon aside from Bioware's canon. 

Interestingly enough, you can't have a mage Dalish elf in DAO. 

[DragonKingReborn]

Fair enough, but using canon when talking about the games generally leads nowhere good (at least here on the BSN). In the games, the only canon belongs to players who have played the previous games. Anything Bioware supplied is a default for those who haven't.

[Gold Dragon]

Both.  I'll be happy with either so long as I don't have to play Dwarf.

[CuriousArtemis]

Faerunner wrote...

I'm hoping for a City Elf, but I'd also be okay with Dalish.

An elf is an elf, no matter where s/he comes from.

Too true  

[Spectre slayer]

Lvl20DM wrote...

We have heard that Mages will tend to have different backgrounds than the rest of their race (though we've heard little about the Qunari one way or the other). I'm personally fond of the idea of the Elf Mage being a Dalish Keeper/First and the Elf Rogue/Warrior being from the Alienage. I'm hoping that we learn a bit more about backgrounds soon, particularly because they are story information that are virtually spoiler free (you'll see them all before you even start playing the game).

Yep, they've said that mages will have their own diverse sets and that the tear might have some effect on them, all they've said about Qunari mage is that we won't be the chained and stitched up version as we are a Vashoth.

About the last part, actually the problem is that if they do release them as they are it will spoil some early game stuff due to our backgrounds effecting why we're at the veil tear opening sequence and our races have a valid reason for being the inquisitor and this sequence won't change as the backgrounds aren't like the origins in DAO. So until they edit them so they spoil a little less we won't see them just yet, but we will see them at some point.

http://social.biowar...x/14137082/595' class='bbc_url' title='Lien externe' rel='nofollow external'> http://social.bioware.com/%20http:/social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/371/index/14137082/595

This link has the devs saying they have to edit them abit first, the no different origins and race backgrounds giving us different reasons for being at the opening sequence is from the making your mark podcast the 20-27 minutes.

biowarebase.nerdappropriate.com/

Can't I have an option for both? Say my elven mage is a Dalish Keeper or First, and the Warrior/Rogue is a city elf who grew up in orlais?

 

That's probably what they're doing but unlike DAO we just can't choose to be either Dalish or City Elf, once we pick our race and class we'll get a pre set background, the mage just happens to be Dalish since they've confirmed that duringa panel( playable race 37-39 minutes in.)

Modifié par Spectre slayer, 02 février 2014 - 09:34 .

[BronzTrooper]

General TSAR wrote...

Blech knife ears, Human only for me.

Go away, shem.  You are not welcome here. 

[Parmida]

motomotogirl wrote...

Faerunner wrote...

I'm hoping for a City Elf, but I'd also be okay with Dalish.

An elf is an elf, no matter where s/he comes from.

Too true  

Elves are really cute. Specially the male elves with their short heights and sharp ears...awww...I just wanna hug them soooo tightly..*sniff* *sniff*
 I wanna make a very cute and lovable elf mage dude with fiery red hair and dashing eyes that just rip through your soul shouting: "HUG ME, HUG ME NOW!"... *squee* <3

[Mecha Elf]

I play as a rogue and I only like city elves because they are bad ass so yeah there's my answer. I personally hate the dalish.

[Gamercat]

I personally would rather not play as a dalish elf mage. But if that's my only option I would be just as happy with a Qunari.

[Hrungr]

Honestly, I can't wait to try a Dalish mage.

I really wish there had been that option in DAO. Will there be a Dalish-specific talent tree? Will you be able to become a Keeper?

[Anvos]

Honestly I'd rather have my elf mage have the choice to be on the ex circle side, as I tend to like them on a more anti dalish side, where they believe their bad for the future of elf kind and the creators either were fade demons/spirits, didn't exist, or aren't worthy of worship after all they've let befall their people.

[LobselVith8]

Rassler wrote...

 Which one do you prefer? Did the devs mention which one will be chosen as main Elven Inquisitor background? I think its important to know based on how different the people interacted with City Elf Warden and Dalish Warden. They are literally from two different worlds. There are also details about being a mage, will we be a hidden apostate from a city or a first to a keeper from a clan? 

No matter how little, devs please give some information regarding this matter 

I'm looking forward to playing as a Dalish mage protagonist (which I've heard mentioned by some posters who have kept up with the developers). I think the elven background will depend on your class.

[Jessihatt]

I want to be a city elf.
If the elf inquisitor is Dalish, I won't be playing as an elf, but the qunari/vashoth instead.

I don't think the Dalish are a very likeable people.

[Anvos]

CommanderJessica wrote...

I want to be a city elf.
If the elf inquisitor is Dalish, I won't be playing as an elf, but the qunari/vashoth instead.

I don't think the Dalish are a very likeable people.

I kind of agree with this and their general hostility towards pretty much every major nations means that any long term new home for the Dalish would either require settling a blighted zone that likely can't support large scale civilization or uniting to fight the Chasind for the Kocari Wilds, which risks their destruction and makes them no better than the humans they despise. 

Modifié par Anvos, 02 février 2014 - 04:40 .

[dragondreamer]

Dalish mage.  I'd also like the option for an ex-Circle elf,  but if I had to choose, I'd go with Dalish.  We've never had the option of playing a Dalish mage before, and the idea of exploring the past fits best with a Dalish protagonist.  And if we actually go to Arlathan or reclaim the Dales, both would be far more meaningful.  City elf will be my second or third run, but for this particular game I'm more inclined to go Dalish.

I'm also looking forward to being a living hell for the templars.  Heathen elf mages, talk about the sky falling. 

[gangly369]

Misticsan wrote...

I was going to ditch Dalish all together since my main playthrough in DA:O was a Dalish archer, until I learned there would be the option to play a Dalish mage. That sounds too interesting to ignore. That and a possible Qunari mage, imagine the possibilities!

Chantry fanatic: "It's a pagan! Burn them!"
Templar fanatic: "It's a mage! Burn them!"
Mage fanatic: "You're a mage, but you tree-hugging hippies don't understand our plight! Burn them!"
Bigoted human: "It's an elf! Opress them!"
Bigoted City Elf: "You're an Elf, but you're one of those snobbish Dalish! Kick them out!"
Bigoted Dalish Elf: "Peace with the shemlen? You're a traitor to our people! Kill them!"
Qunari: "No."

Yes, I want my characters to feel miserable. That makes victory sweeter xD

You forgot the dwarves

[Dabrikishaw]

It never occurred to me whether or not we could play as City or Dalish elves. I think it's more likely we will play as a Dalish though. I can't answer why, I just do.

[Aesir26]

I wouldn't mind either way, but I think I would prefer a city elf for the warriors/rogues. While I find the Dalish intriguing (even if I'm not fond of the whole "flat ear" thing), I find the city elves even more so. It's probably because I like playing the underdog and the city elves seem to be even more of an underdog than the Dalish.

[Matthew Ryder]

People complain about how the Dalish treat their city brethren like garbage but no one complains about how the dwarves treat their castles. I mean yes, their descendants of some of the worst Orzammar had to offer but not every castles would end up like that. Sometimes the uptight nobles of Orzammar are to blame.

The point is that although the Dalish and city elves (alongside noble and castles dwarves) are split into two cliques, they are still one species. I hope this war will help put aside their differences just for the sake of survival.

Modifié par ThatDude, 02 février 2014 - 09:19 .

[Matthew Ryder]

Anvos wrote...

CommanderJessica wrote...

I want to be a city elf.
If the elf inquisitor is Dalish, I won't be playing as an elf, but the qunari/vashoth instead.

I don't think the Dalish are a very likeable people.

I kind of agree with this and their general hostility towards pretty much every major nations means that any long term new home for the Dalish would either require settling a blighted zone that likely can't support large scale civilization or uniting to fight the Chasind for the Kocari Wilds, which risks their destruction and makes them no better than the humans they despise. 

 
I think Dalish, understandably, have some right to be mistrusting. I mean the Dalish Warden's father was killed by both human and city elves, Zathrian's son was killed and his daughter was raped by human bandits, and Lanaya was the only survivor of a bandit attack and became their "servant" for a time.

Plus, the noble dwarves and castes are very hostile towards their castles and surface dwarves. Many, like the Dalish, are hostile towards the outside world. I mean, look at Harrowmont. No one really complains about that.

Modifié par ThatDude, 02 février 2014 - 10:12 .

[Bayonet Hipshot]

Dalish Elf Mage !

[Anvos]

ThatDude wrote...

Anvos wrote...

CommanderJessica wrote...

I want to be a city elf.
If the elf inquisitor is Dalish, I won't be playing as an elf, but the qunari/vashoth instead.

I don't think the Dalish are a very likeable people.

I kind of agree with this and their general hostility towards pretty much every major nations means that any long term new home for the Dalish would either require settling a blighted zone that likely can't support large scale civilization or uniting to fight the Chasind for the Kocari Wilds, which risks their destruction and makes them no better than the humans they despise. 

What about how the dwarves treat their castles? Isn't that a bit far worst on how Dalish treat city elves?

The nobles and casteless haven't offended the surface nations so unlike the Dalish either group can be welcome among human society.  Also if casteless want a better life they can either leave for the surface or organize their own war party to take back a thaig for themselves.

Modifié par Anvos, 02 février 2014 - 09:55 .

[Lulupab]

Anvos wrote...

ThatDude wrote...

Anvos wrote...

CommanderJessica wrote...

I want to be a city elf.
If the elf inquisitor is Dalish, I won't be playing as an elf, but the qunari/vashoth instead.

I don't think the Dalish are a very likeable people.

I kind of agree with this and their general hostility towards pretty much every major nations means that any long term new home for the Dalish would either require settling a blighted zone that likely can't support large scale civilization or uniting to fight the Chasind for the Kocari Wilds, which risks their destruction and makes them no better than the humans they despise. 

What about how the dwarves treat their castles? Isn't that a bit far worst on how Dalish treat city elves?

The nobles and casteless haven't offended the surface nations so unlike the Dalish either group can be welcome among human society.  Also if casteless want a better life they can either leave for the surface or organize their own war party to take back a thaig for themselves.

How can you say that lol. Its not like the humans have offendd the dwarves anyway so the dwarves have no reason to hate humans. But the humans have indeed offended the Dalish, in so many ways.