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The Elven Inquisitor. Dalish or City Elf?


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BubbleDncr wrote...

I'm prepared for it to be a city elf, just because I'd be amazed if they have more than one voice actor per gender for the Inquistor, and since DA2 decided Dalish elves have welsh accents, they wouldn't be able to share voice actors with any other race.

But I would rather be a Dalish elf.


I think the developers were going for the clans having different accents depending on the respective clan, since Merrill has a different accent than everyone else in the Sabrae Clan (per Dragon Age II) and she was originally from the Alerion clan. The Dalish in Antiva City, for example (who are referenced by Zevran as being "more dangerous" than their Ferelden counterparts), might have Antivan accents.

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Honestly, I doubt it. The Dragon Age 2 Sabrae Clan is full of Irish, Scottish and Welsh actors. I don't think there's that much thought put into consistency. They're just supposed to sound like they're from non-English parts of the British Isles.

Also, since it existed in English accented countries of Ferelden and the Free Marches I don't think we're going to get Dalish Clans with Antivan accents.

Mike Smith wrote...

The only likable Dalish you meet in a non-Dalish playthrough is Lanaya, and she was born as a City Elf.

City Elf for me.


She's not the only friendly Dalish elf. And even some of those who greet you coldly can soon turn around.

Modifié par Jedi Master of Orion, 04 février 2014 - 07:32 .


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Dailish, Perhaps one who knows the old language somehow...

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Given the Elf Mage is Dalish, I hope the Elf Rogue is a City Elf. Depending on whether or not Warriors/Rogues get the same Origin, either the Warrior is a City Elf too or maybe a separate Dalish Origin for the Warrior.

If it were my preference:

Elf Warrior- Dalish Warrior (tribe defender)
Elf Rogue- City/Alienage Elf, possible former slave
Elf Mage- Dalish (already confirmed), possibly a First or First in training

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By far city elf, even if I doubt it's going to happen.

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Orlesian servant.


That could actually be a interesting backstory. Especially if you get to meat your old bosses. 

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hanssolon wrote...

I rather be Dalish as it made perfect sense to me probably as my one and only playthrough of Origins was the Dalish Warden Mage


Sorry, I might be wrong, but  I do not recall being able to be a Dalish mage in Origins. As far as I remember you could be an elven mage from the circle of magi but not a Dalish one. Although you could learn the Keeper specialization but I do not believe that makes your character Dalish. However, as I said, I might be wrong.

On topic, I love elves in general but I would rather play as a Dalish, regardless of class. My canon warden was a Dalish warrior, which I missed during DA2, so it is great to have races back.

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 Omigosh, my first post in the forums EVER :wizard:

To answer the question, I hope there is a Dalish option besides a mage. I'm setting up the story in a very specific way in preparation for this game (replaying DA:O  and DAII with my hopeful Inquisition characters in mind) and I hope to have one complete playthrough that centers around the Dalish. A Dalish Warden, a Hawke that romances Merrill and a Dalish (hopefully rogue) Inquisitor. 

I could never really get into the city elf past the opening origin. :(

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Kuuipo wrote...

 Omigosh, my first post in the forums EVER :wizard:

To answer the question, I hope there is a Dalish option besides a mage. I'm setting up the story in a very specific way in preparation for this game (replaying DA:O  and DAII with my hopeful Inquisition characters in mind) and I hope to have one complete playthrough that centers around the Dalish. A Dalish Warden, a Hawke that romances Merrill and a Dalish (hopefully rogue) Inquisitor. 

I could never really get into the city elf past the opening origin. :(


Well the elven mage's backstory is never made clear, you can say you are from the Denerim Alienage but you can also say you are from other places or that you don't remember. So I guess you could roleplay that the elf mage was origionally dalish. 

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LobselVith8 wrote...
I think the developers were going for the clans having different accents depending on the respective clan, since Merrill has a different accent than everyone else in the Sabrae Clan (per Dragon Age II) and she was originally from the Alerion clan. The Dalish in Antiva City, for example (who are referenced by Zevran as being "more dangerous" than their Ferelden counterparts), might have Antivan accents.


Merril's VA is welsh, and I didn't really catch a difference with the other clan members. If they were different, why would you think it would go so far as non-welsh accents? 

Though obviously the PC may be restricted for other reasons (e.g. cost of VO). 

Edit:

Actually ignore this post, I read the response below yours about how there were Irish accents too (Sebstians VA doing too, IIRC). 

Modifié par In Exile, 05 février 2014 - 04:57 .


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LobselVith8 wrote...

I think the developers were going for the clans having different accents depending on the respective clan, since Merrill has a different accent than everyone else in the Sabrae Clan (per Dragon Age II) and she was originally from the Alerion clan. The Dalish in Antiva City, for example (who are referenced by Zevran as being "more dangerous" than their Ferelden counterparts), might have Antivan accents.

In fact, the original plan was apparently for all Dalish elves to have Welsh accents, but they weren't able to cast enough Welsh voice actors (or actors who could do a credible Welsh accent), so they were forced to use Irish actors for many of the elves.

I suspect David just really wanted to use Eve Myles.

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Kuuipo wrote...

 Omigosh, my first post in the forums EVER :wizard:

To answer the question, I hope there is a Dalish option besides a mage. I'm setting up the story in a very specific way in preparation for this game (replaying DA:O  and DAII with my hopeful Inquisition characters in mind) and I hope to have one complete playthrough that centers around the Dalish. A Dalish Warden, a Hawke that romances Merrill and a Dalish (hopefully rogue) Inquisitor. 

I could never really get into the city elf past the opening origin. :(

lol!  My first Warden was Dalish and my first Hawke romanced Merrill!  Not to mention that I plan to have my first Inquisitor be a Dalish rogue.  lol :o

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No-one said I had to choose~

Modifié par ames4u, 05 février 2014 - 07:04 .


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City. They at least have a plausible excuse for their current condition.

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I'd like to play my I hate you all playthrough as a snobby dalish gal. That'd be perfect.

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I want to play both of them, but Dalish would be my preference.

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hanssolon wrote...

I rather be Dalish as it made perfect sense to me probably as my one and only playthrough of Origins was the Dalish Warden Mage



Wait you couldn't be a dalish mage in DAO.

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City elf warriors/rogues would be my preference, since the city-elf origin was my favourite one. I played three city elf wardens after all. But I'm looking forward to the Dalish-mage as well.

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If we get different voices then I *really* want a Dalish elf so that I can get an Inquisitor with an Irish accent.

Otherwise though I'm not that fussed. Dalish is still a little more interesting I would say.

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garrusfan1 wrote...

hanssolon wrote...

I rather be Dalish as it made perfect sense to me probably as my one and only playthrough of Origins was the Dalish Warden Mage



Wait you couldn't be a dalish mage in DAO.


That was only possible with a fan created mod; you couldn't play as a Dalish mage in vanilla Origins.

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LobselVith8 wrote...

garrusfan1 wrote...

hanssolon wrote...

I rather be Dalish as it made perfect sense to me probably as my one and only playthrough of Origins was the Dalish Warden Mage



Wait you couldn't be a dalish mage in DAO.


That was only possible with a fan created mod; you couldn't play as a Dalish mage in vanilla Origins.


True.

Though I think it actually would have been QUITE interesting if you could've had a background in Origins as a Dalish elf who was stolen from her clan at a young age.  Young enough to have internalized a lot of Circle culture by the time Duncan shows up, but old enough to have remembered Dalish clan life.

Modifié par Silfren, 10 février 2014 - 07:28 .


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Silfren wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

garrusfan1 wrote...

hanssolon wrote...

I rather be Dalish as it made perfect sense to me probably as my one and only playthrough of Origins was the Dalish Warden Mage



Wait you couldn't be a dalish mage in DAO.


That was only possible with a fan created mod; you couldn't play as a Dalish mage in vanilla Origins.


True.

Though I think it actually would have been QUITE interesting if you could've had a background in Origins as a Dalish elf who was stolen from her clan at a young age.  Young enough to have internalized a lot of Circle culture by the time Duncan shows up, but old enough to have remembered Dalish clan life.


You know mean how horrible it was compared to the circle?

The Templars took the mage away from Lice ridden cloths rotted with sweat and stinking of the forest, Instead fine hand spewn frabics that are if any indication of the codex involving the Laundry Room, Washed fairly regularly.

._. Consistent foodstuffs from the civilized world, Having a proper Education that would cost far more then any beyond Noble or Merchant stock could afford. Even getting taught the proper diety to worship.

Its a good deal don't you think?

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Master Warder Z wrote...

Silfren wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

That was only possible with a fan created mod; you couldn't play as a Dalish mage in vanilla Origins.


True.

Though I think it actually would have been QUITE interesting if you could've had a background in Origins as a Dalish elf who was stolen from her clan at a young age.  Young enough to have internalized a lot of Circle culture by the time Duncan shows up, but old enough to have remembered Dalish clan life.


You know mean how horrible it was compared to the circle?


Well, considering the mages who commit suicide because of their lives in the Chantry controlled Circle, as well as the mages who flee - despite risking their life or their humanity - then I'd have to say that it's easy to see why some would see the Chantry controlled Circles as horrible.

Master Warder Z wrote...

The Templars took the mage away from Lice ridden cloths rotted with sweat and stinking of the forest, Instead fine hand spewn frabics that are if any indication of the codex involving the Laundry Room, Washed fairly regularly.


Forcibly taking young boys and girls away from families and friends who loved them and accepted them, to live the rest of their lives in subjugation and servitude, sounds horrible to me. It's also an issue of taking the Elvhen away from their culture and religion, which is criminalized by the Chantry.

Master Warder Z wrote...

._. Consistent foodstuffs from the civilized world, Having a proper Education that would cost far more then any beyond Noble or Merchant stock could afford. Even getting taught the proper diety to worship.

Its a good deal don't you think? 


No. Not at all.

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In regards to the OP, I would like to play as a Dalish Mage Inquisitor, because it would be very fun, especially with those two concept arts we got that referenced Arlathan and the Dales.

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LobselVith8 wrote...

Master Warder Z wrote...

Silfren wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

That was only possible with a fan created mod; you couldn't play as a Dalish mage in vanilla Origins.


True.

Though I think it actually would have been QUITE interesting if you could've had a background in Origins as a Dalish elf who was stolen from her clan at a young age.  Young enough to have internalized a lot of Circle culture by the time Duncan shows up, but old enough to have remembered Dalish clan life.


You know mean how horrible it was compared to the circle?


Well, considering the mages who commit suicide because of their lives in the Chantry controlled Circle, as well as the mages who flee - despite risking their life or their humanity - then I'd have to say that it's easy to see why some would see the Chantry controlled Circles as horrible.

Master Warder Z wrote...

The Templars took the mage away from Lice ridden cloths rotted with sweat and stinking of the forest, Instead fine hand spewn frabics that are if any indication of the codex involving the Laundry Room, Washed fairly regularly.


Forcibly taking young boys and girls away from families and friends who loved them and accepted them, to live the rest of their lives in subjugation and servitude, sounds horrible to me. It's also an issue of taking the Elvhen away from their culture and religion, which is criminalized by the Chantry.

Master Warder Z wrote...

._. Consistent foodstuffs from the civilized world, Having a proper Education that would cost far more then any beyond Noble or Merchant stock could afford. Even getting taught the proper diety to worship.

Its a good deal don't you think? 


No. Not at all.


Perspective i suppose; I don't pull punches nor am i an elven apologist given that the lore is pretty straight forward with the Dalish picking a fight with Orlais and them using it as an excuse to raze their homeland to the ground first chance they were given.

Point being; Their religion, Their lands, Traditions it was all stripped away by choices they made centuries beforehand.

Let it go; It would be the same as me being angry with the russians of this generation instead of those of his that murdered my grandfather outside of Dresden for merely doing his duty to the Nation. Point being carrying deadman's vegenace and grief does no good, it isn't anything more then stubborness and being peculant, like a child.

Circle isn't perfect but at least its grounded in reality.

Humans control the majority of the world and that isn't going to change, Their cultures, Traditions, Religion and Language are primary due to it. And considering the result of an Elven/Human union?

Well...we all see the writing on the wall here don't we? They will eventually fade and Humanity will endure, might as well just embrace the role they have here within Thedas rather then continue to struggle against and pointlessly waste lives on both sides.