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[Hellion Rex]

AresKeith wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

HiroVoid wrote...

To be honest, I never really got why Sidious had to be the most powerful dark lord ever. Chances are we'll see someone in the new trilogy of movies that'll make Sidious look much weaker in comparison simply by having better effects to use for force powers and such. Then again, Sidious wasn't that impressive at the end of the prequel trilogy either.

To be honest, all of his real power was featured in the EU. And even then, we have Sith that make Sidious look very weak. I mean, for God's sake, Naga Sadow could create a freaking supernova. The Sith Emperor devoured the life of an entire world so that he could have effective immortality.

Yep, I can list Sidious in the top most powerful Sith but he's nowhere near the top 3

Heck, I coudn't even tell you who my top ranked Sith are, cause they have so many freaking powers and there are so many really powerful ones.

[Captain Obvious]

CrutchCricket wrote...

Wow.

Today, the ME3 team stand eclipsed in terms of franchise ruining.

gg Star Wars.

I wouldn't say Star Wars is ruined. I'm actually glad that the post-ROTJ EU is gone, though I liked some of it.

[R4ZOR GHO5T]

 I enjoyed TFU 1, but the second was rediculous, glad it's non-cannon to be honest. 

[drake heath]

TheChris92 wrote...

Sidious is the most powerful Sith and Luke is the most powerful Jedi in Star Wars because Lucas said so -- Whether or not that will stand today is uncertain.

I guess he's the most powerful in terms of decetfulness, since he was the only Sith to take over the Republic (pre-Empire of course, since they started doing that for fun after ROTJ.)

[Mr.House]

What made Sidious very powerful was his intelligence and how he outsmarted everyone. Like eluvianix said, there are more sith like the two he mentioned that are more powerful in terms of power then Sidious, I would list him in my top 5 but Vitiate(TOR Emperor) is one for me, even if I do think his plan is stupid as heck(good going Drew)

[Hellion Rex]

Mr.House wrote...

What made Sidious very powerful was his intelligence and how he outsmarted everyone. Like eluvianix said, there are more sith like the two he mentioned that are more powerful in terms of power then Sidious, I would list him in my top 5 but Vitiate(TOR Emperor) is one for me, even if I do think his plan is stupid as heck(good going Drew)

Indeed. Sidious might not have been the strongest in terms of raw destructive powers, he certainly was one of the most cunning and intelligent. If you had read the Darth Plagueis novel, it blew me away how he had manipulated his mentor for decades, with no one the wiser.

Modifié par eluvianix, 06 février 2014 - 08:50 .

[AresKeith]

eluvianix wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

What made Sidious very powerful was his intelligence and how he outsmarted everyone. Like eluvianix said, there are more sith like the two he mentioned that are more powerful in terms of power then Sidious, I would list him in my top 5 but Vitiate(TOR Emperor) is one for me, even if I do think his plan is stupid as heck(good going Drew)

Indeed. Sidious might not have been the strongest in terms of raw destructive powers, he certainly was one of the most cunning and intelligent. If you had read the Darth Plagueis novel, it blew me away how he had manipulated his mentor for decades, with no one the wiser.

In terms of raw power Naga Sadow, Darth Andeddu, Freedon Nadd and Marka Ragnos would destroy him

Even Darth Nhilius would destroy him

[Hellion Rex]

AresKeith wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

What made Sidious very powerful was his intelligence and how he outsmarted everyone. Like eluvianix said, there are more sith like the two he mentioned that are more powerful in terms of power then Sidious, I would list him in my top 5 but Vitiate(TOR Emperor) is one for me, even if I do think his plan is stupid as heck(good going Drew)

Indeed. Sidious might not have been the strongest in terms of raw destructive powers, he certainly was one of the most cunning and intelligent. If you had read the Darth Plagueis novel, it blew me away how he had manipulated his mentor for decades, with no one the wiser.

In terms of raw power Naga Sadow, Darth Andeddu, Freedon Nadd and Marka Ragnos would destroy him

Even Darth Nhilius would destroy him

Well, yeah. Darth Nihilus was a void in the Force. Short of the Exile, another void, not much could hope to stop him, since he wasn't even fully alive anymore, technically.

[AresKeith]

eluvianix wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

What made Sidious very powerful was his intelligence and how he outsmarted everyone. Like eluvianix said, there are more sith like the two he mentioned that are more powerful in terms of power then Sidious, I would list him in my top 5 but Vitiate(TOR Emperor) is one for me, even if I do think his plan is stupid as heck(good going Drew)

Indeed. Sidious might not have been the strongest in terms of raw destructive powers, he certainly was one of the most cunning and intelligent. If you had read the Darth Plagueis novel, it blew me away how he had manipulated his mentor for decades, with no one the wiser.

In terms of raw power Naga Sadow, Darth Andeddu, Freedon Nadd and Marka Ragnos would destroy him

Even Darth Nhilius would destroy him

Well, yeah. Darth Nihilus was a void in the Force. Short of the Exile, another void, not much could hope to stop him, since he wasn't even fully alive anymore, technically.

He was a good myn, who's spirit might be on Tatooine 

[Hellion Rex]

AresKeith wrote...
He was a good myn, who's spirit might be on Tatooine 

Nihilus? Lol ok...

[Captain Obvious]

drake heath wrote...

TheChris92 wrote...

Sidious is the most powerful Sith and Luke is the most powerful Jedi in Star Wars because Lucas said so -- Whether or not that will stand today is uncertain.

I guess he's the most powerful in terms of decetfulness, since he was the only Sith to take over the Republic (pre-Empire of course, since they started doing that for fun after ROTJ.)

Most powerful "in terms of deceitfulness"? That makes no sense.

Yes, Darth Sidious is the most powerful Sith Lord whoever lived, as George Lucas put it. Even if George isn't in control of Star Wars anymore (I'd still argue that him and LucasFilm have a lot of control over it still), everything in the EU isn't canon anymore. Some elements from it may be used in future movies or TV shows, but that's up to the people at LucasFilm to decide. It's that simple. With the EU non-canon, that practically makes Darth Sidious the most powerful by default.

[Cainhurst Crow]

CrutchCricket wrote...

Wow.

Today, the ME3 team stand eclipsed in terms of franchise ruining.

gg Star Wars.

I thought force unleashed 2 came out a while ago, not today.

[Cainhurst Crow]

AresKeith wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

What made Sidious very powerful was his intelligence and how he outsmarted everyone. Like eluvianix said, there are more sith like the two he mentioned that are more powerful in terms of power then Sidious, I would list him in my top 5 but Vitiate(TOR Emperor) is one for me, even if I do think his plan is stupid as heck(good going Drew)

Indeed. Sidious might not have been the strongest in terms of raw destructive powers, he certainly was one of the most cunning and intelligent. If you had read the Darth Plagueis novel, it blew me away how he had manipulated his mentor for decades, with no one the wiser.

In terms of raw power Naga Sadow, Darth Andeddu, Freedon Nadd and Marka Ragnos would destroy him

Even Darth Nhilius would destroy him

Exar Kun could probably take sideous down, and all the dude had going for him was magic and saber haxs.

[Hellion Rex]

Cap. Obvious wrote...

drake heath wrote...

TheChris92 wrote...

Sidious is the most powerful Sith and Luke is the most powerful Jedi in Star Wars because Lucas said so -- Whether or not that will stand today is uncertain.

I guess he's the most powerful in terms of decetfulness, since he was the only Sith to take over the Republic (pre-Empire of course, since they started doing that for fun after ROTJ.)

Most powerful "in terms of deceitfulness"? That makes no sense.

Yes, Darth Sidious is the most powerful Sith Lord whoever lived, as George Lucas put it. Even if George isn't in control of Star Wars anymore (I'd still argue that him and LucasFilm have a lot of control over it still), everything in the EU isn't canon anymore. Some elements from it may be used in future movies or TV shows, but that's up to the people at LucasFilm to decide. It's that simple. With the EU non-canon, that practically makes Darth Sidious the most powerful by default.

Well, until we actually know what's axed, we can't claim that.

[Hellion Rex]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

Exar Kun could probably take sideous down, and all the dude had going for him was magic and saber haxs.

Yeah, the whole Sith sorcery thing is way overpowered.

[AresKeith]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

Mr.House wrote...

What made Sidious very powerful was his intelligence and how he outsmarted everyone. Like eluvianix said, there are more sith like the two he mentioned that are more powerful in terms of power then Sidious, I would list him in my top 5 but Vitiate(TOR Emperor) is one for me, even if I do think his plan is stupid as heck(good going Drew)

Indeed. Sidious might not have been the strongest in terms of raw destructive powers, he certainly was one of the most cunning and intelligent. If you had read the Darth Plagueis novel, it blew me away how he had manipulated his mentor for decades, with no one the wiser.

In terms of raw power Naga Sadow, Darth Andeddu, Freedon Nadd and Marka Ragnos would destroy him

Even Darth Nhilius would destroy him

Exar Kun could probably take sideous down, and all the dude had going for him was magic and saber haxs.

He probably could, since Yoda basically overpowered him with the force and Mace Windu overpowered him in saber combat

[AresKeith]

eluvianix wrote...

Cap. Obvious wrote...

drake heath wrote...

TheChris92 wrote...

Sidious is the most powerful Sith and Luke is the most powerful Jedi in Star Wars because Lucas said so -- Whether or not that will stand today is uncertain.

I guess he's the most powerful in terms of decetfulness, since he was the only Sith to take over the Republic (pre-Empire of course, since they started doing that for fun after ROTJ.)

Most powerful "in terms of deceitfulness"? That makes no sense.

Yes, Darth Sidious is the most powerful Sith Lord whoever lived, as George Lucas put it. Even if George isn't in control of Star Wars anymore (I'd still argue that him and LucasFilm have a lot of control over it still), everything in the EU isn't canon anymore. Some elements from it may be used in future movies or TV shows, but that's up to the people at LucasFilm to decide. It's that simple. With the EU non-canon, that practically makes Darth Sidious the most powerful by default.

Well, until we actually know what's axed, we can't claim that.

And Lucas' word has been losing grip since midichlorians

[Hellion Rex]

AresKeith wrote...
He probably could, since Yoda basically overpowered him with the force and Mace Windu overpowered him in saber combat

Mace - You could argue that he was holding back so Anakin could show up.

Yoda - that was a stalemate.

[AresKeith]

eluvianix wrote...

AresKeith wrote...
He probably could, since Yoda basically overpowered him with the force and Mace Windu overpowered him in saber combat

Mace - You could argue that he was holding back so Anakin could show up.

Yoda - that was a stalemate.

I think he was holding back after that fight, Mace is pretty much THE best saber master in that era

[Hellion Rex]

AresKeith wrote...
I think he was holding back after that fight, Mace is pretty much THE best saber master in that era

Indeed. Mace was the only Jedi who really mastered Vaapad, after all. However, I wish we could have seen Sidious do more lightsaber combat. I still get chills watching him fight with dual blades in The Clone Wars.

[MegaIllusiveMan]

Damnit... So much potentials for the stories

Altough I didn't quite understand it... Was the Original Starkiller that one that kills everyone when chosing the Dark Side Path on FU2? (Can't remember if it's everyone, still...)

Ah, also, I think that was actually suposed to happen, since, heck, Starkiller killed, like lots of people from the Old Jedi Order AND even met Yoda.

SW:TFU had potential, and I hope it's compensated in Rebels

Edit: Fixed typo

Modifié par MegaIllusiveMan, 06 février 2014 - 10:04 .

[TheChris92]

Mr.House wrote...

What made Sidious very powerful was his intelligence and how he outsmarted everyone. Like eluvianix said, there are more sith like the two he mentioned that are more powerful in terms of power then Sidious, I would list him in my top 5 but Vitiate(TOR Emperor) is one for me, even if I do think his plan is stupid as heck(good going Drew)

Sidious is the only one who's managed to destroy the Republic and defeat the Jedi Order -- Evidently, Vitiate did not succeed in any of his plans because the so-called 'canon' dictates so. Besides, It doesn't matter who can fire lightning out of ones arse in the best fashion -- If Lucas says that Sidious is the most powerful Sith and Luke is the most powerful Jedi then that's all there is to it. Personally, I'd say the Exile is the most powerful Jedi & Nihlus is the most powerful Sith but that's that.

Modifié par TheChris92, 06 février 2014 - 10:05 .

[Hellion Rex]

MegaIllusiveMan wrote...

Damnit... So much potentials for the stories

Altough I didn't quite understand it... Was the Original Starkiller that one that kills everyone when chosing the Dark Side Path on FU2? (Can't remember if it's everyone, still...)

Ah, also, I think that was actually suposed to happen, since, heck, Starkiller killed, like lots of people from the Old Jedi Order AND even met Yoda.

SW:TFU had potential, and I hope it's compensated in Rebels

Edit: Fixed typo

No, I think the whole thing is that the original Starkiller did indeed die. The Dark Side one in FU2 who kills everyone was a clone created prior to the playable clone in FU2.

[Hellion Rex]

TheChris92 wrote...
Personally, I'd say the Exile is the most powerful Jedi & Nihlus is the most powerful Sith but that's that.

I agree. Not so much of their innate power, as what they had become due to Malachor V.

[Captain Obvious]

eluvianix wrote...

Cap. Obvious wrote...

drake heath wrote...

TheChris92 wrote...

Sidious is the most powerful Sith and Luke is the most powerful Jedi in Star Wars because Lucas said so -- Whether or not that will stand today is uncertain.

I guess he's the most powerful in terms of decetfulness, since he was the only Sith to take over the Republic (pre-Empire of course, since they started doing that for fun after ROTJ.)

Most powerful "in terms of deceitfulness"? That makes no sense.

Yes, Darth Sidious is the most powerful Sith Lord whoever lived, as George Lucas put it. Even if George isn't in control of Star Wars anymore (I'd still argue that him and LucasFilm have a lot of control over it still), everything in the EU isn't canon anymore. Some elements from it may be used in future movies or TV shows, but that's up to the people at LucasFilm to decide. It's that simple. With the EU non-canon, that practically makes Darth Sidious the most powerful by default.

Well, until we actually know what's axed, we can't claim that.

All of it's been axed.