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[Killdren88]

eluvianix wrote...

CybAnt1 wrote...
Why hasn't he gotten married?
1. No parents to nag him.
2. He hasn't met the right girl or guy.

Fixed for you.

Question...Where was it ever established in the game or any other media. Not your head cannon mind you that Alistair went both ways? Not ragging on you, just you seem pretty insistent that he does go both ways when it was established in DA:O he is only interested in women. Are you merely under the asumption that Bioware will make him Player sexual?

[Muzical84]

Battlebloodmage wrote...

I was gonna say Anora could pop out some babies but then reread the epilogue, didn't know she refused to remarry due to her father complex. 

There's some Codex entries in the Return to Ostegar DLC (at least that's where I remember reading it,) where Arl Eamon was actually telling the King to consider "putting Anora away" because she was "almost 30" (in 9:30 Dragon, I presume,) and hadn't been able to get pregnant yet, so even if you marry Allistair to Anora, unless Allistair's half-brother was, ahem, "shooting blanks," and by Inquisiton's timeline Anora's closer to 40...yeah, even if she's the picture of health and Allistair WASN'T tainted, it'd be unlikley she could get pregnant, especially by the time Allistair's Calling would be starting.

Were I in Allistair's shoes, (or he and my Warden's shoes, in that playthrough,) I'd appoint an heir.  Morrigan promised Allistair, (if you choose to tell him that the Dark Ritual will produce a child,) that the OGB would never make a run for the throne, and I trust Morrigan, at least, to keep her word, (and by Inquisition's timeline, which from what I've read sounds like no earlier than 9:40 Dragon, someone correct me if I'm wrong, OGB isn't old enough yet to really disobey witch-Mom ) despite everything, so I'm not expecting to see OGB ascend the throne.  It'd be hard to do that in-game, as opposed to in-books, since not everyone even owns Witch Hunt and from what I understand BioWare still wants to respect that sort of thing.

Yes, I think too much about these things o.o;;;

(Edited for grammar.)

Modifié par Muzical84, 04 février 2014 - 09:02 .

[MKDAWUSS]

Killdren88 wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

CybAnt1 wrote...
Why hasn't he gotten married?
1. No parents to nag him.
2. He hasn't met the right girl or guy.

Fixed for you.

Question...Where was it ever established in the game or any other media. Not your head cannon mind you that Alistair went both ways? Not ragging on you, just you seem pretty insistent that he does go both ways when it was established in DA:O he is only interested in women. Are you merely under the asumption that Bioware will make him Player sexual?

I was under the impression that one of the reasons he ditches the Warden is because of child production. Could be wrong.

[Muzical84]

He flat-out says that in Origins, though he seems quite happy to ignore it if you're of noble birth... *generic grumbling joins with the other fangirls*

[tybert7]

My hope is that he is really gay and can't marry a dude in the DA universe for fear of a backlash, so he just uses Zevran as his person "bendy" toy.

[Zack_Nero]

He married Anroa in one of my playthroughs

[Thetford]

Actually, the whole childless thing sort of makes it easier to write for future titles, since it is implied that Alistair's "guys won't get off their barcaloungers" and Anora has "a uterus that is prepared to kill the ones that do", essentially, this therefore leaves the future of the monarchy in peril, as no matter who you put on the throne, there will be no heir, allowing for a third party to take the throne, such as some obscure cousin who is the descendant of the sibling of some long dead king. Also, there are other ways to gain the crown, violently, like the War of the Roses.

[Covi]

General TSAR wrote...

Marriage is for suckers.

Alistair was the first MGTOW.

[Clockwork_Wings]

latariox3 wrote...

CrimsonNephilim wrote...

If you're referring to King Alistair that rules alone, then that's understandable, otherwise he can marry Anora or a female noble Warden in Origins. The only child he'll have is the one Morrigan conceived durting the DR. Short of adopting, the taint greatly reduces his chances of having an heir.

Yea but Alistair doesn't know that the only child he can have is the OGB. Fiona had a kid while she was a Warden so Wardens can have children. Maybe Alistair remembers what is was like to grow up a fatherless bastard and doesn't want his kid to grow up like that.
 

This tends to be my theory, especially when he romances my dwarf girls, whose culturues are okay with the king having multiple women.  I imagine this does not sit well with Anora, though.

[ElvaliaRavenHart]

MKDAWUSS wrote...

Killdren88 wrote...

eluvianix wrote...

CybAnt1 wrote...
Why hasn't he gotten married?
1. No parents to nag him.
2. He hasn't met the right girl or guy.

Fixed for you.

Question...Where was it ever established in the game or any other media. Not your head cannon mind you that Alistair went both ways? Not ragging on you, just you seem pretty insistent that he does go both ways when it was established in DA:O he is only interested in women. Are you merely under the asumption that Bioware will make him Player sexual?

I was under the impression that one of the reasons he ditches the Warden is because of child production. Could be wrong.

No he tries to ditch all of them for this reason.  Two wardens can't produce children, a warden and a non-warden have a better chance.  A female warden's persuade has to be fairly high and his love at a certain % to get him to agree for the Human Female Warden to marry him or become his mistress.  Seems you get more favorable slides with him being his mistress and his reaction to your relationship in DA2. 

I've never done the too soon to tell option.  So someone else will have to weigh in here how that plays out.

I'm fairly certain somewhere on the discussion boards from awhile back that Mr. Gaider said the only child Alistair would have is the OGB.   The way the comics end might mean Alistair has a relationship with Isabella.  Mr. Gaider could change his mind. We'll just have to wait and see.

[AutumnWitch]

Well once you go Morrigan, everyone else is quite a yawn.

[Nhadalie]

Probably to prevent overriding his romance possibilities with an alternate canon situation.

Personally, I would love to think that somehow Alistair and the Warden managed to have a child. Regardless of whether the warden is his wife or his mistress/lover. If Fiona could have a child, why can't other grey wardens? Yes, the chance would be very small between the Warden and Alistair. But a chance is still a chance. And even if they can't, why wouldn't they adopt? I bet there's a lot of orphans around Denerim after Origins.

Not to mention Alistair's situation is already complicated enough. Assuming he's still alive, he's either had a baby with Morrigan, or lost the Warden. Depending on his relationship with the Warden, it can go from bad to ptsd inflicting levels of trauma. Also assuming that he is in fact king, he can have 6 different situations with the Warden. 1) Warden is a Cousland, and married him. 2)Warden has a different origin, and became his lover. 3) Warden is a Cousland, and married him politically with a lover on the side. 4) He broke up with the Warden upon becoming King. 5) He married Anora, and kept the Warden on as his mistress. 6) The Warden, either female or male, is his friend, and romanced someone else.

If the Warden was his wife, he certainly wouldn't go out behind her back, even if it was political. If she was his lover/mistress, Alistair's heart would still be spoken for, and he wouldn't go after someone else unless he absolutely had to. With the taint, Alistair will probably experience his calling before he is required to marry by the people. He is young still, and the common people are unaware of what Grey Wardens actually are/what they do.

If Alistair broke up with the Warden, it most likely weighs heavily on him. I wouldn't be surprised if he came to regret the decision, and they made up eventually off screen.

The only situation in which Alistair might marry someone due to his position as king is if the Warden was only his friend. And that's assuming that he didn't marry Anora, in which case he wouldn't shove her aside, even if he doesn't love her.

The better question is, who is Alistair going to make his heir? Will he and the Warden adopt children? Will they have a child? Will he find someone else who is also in the line of succession? When the time comes, will they go on their callings together? If the Warden has disappeared as of the end of DA2, I would suspect that Alistair has as well. We will probably find out in Inquisition.

Modifié par Nhadalie, 07 février 2014 - 05:01 .

[Bayonet Hipshot]

If a guy wants to be single let him be ! Even if he is a fictitious guy. I don't understand this thing that women mainly do where as soon as a guy is at some age, he indirectly gets pressured to get married by the females around him.

There are plenty of men that like their freedom or want to pursue a higher calling in their lives or just want to be themselves. Maybe Alistair wants to be such a man. He already has a higher calling in his life (either as a Warden or King of Ferelden if he chooses to rule alone), he may treasure his freedom, he is certainly happiest while being himself...

Leave Alistair be. Let that man enjoy whatever life he has now before undergoing the Calling.

[BobZilla84]

Well Alistair is married to my Female Noble Rogue and I think that they probably would have a Heir considering that he did the Dark Ritual and morrigan said that his Dark Spawn Taint would be passed to the child and in my mind Alistair would not even be a true Warden anymore because No Taint=No Warden and No Warden=No Calling well thats my opinion at least.

Modifié par BobZilla 2k10, 07 février 2014 - 05:51 .

[Kaosbuddy]

The Sin wrote...

If a guy wants to be single let him be ! Even if he is a fictitious guy. I don't understand this thing that women mainly do where as soon as a guy is at some age, he indirectly gets pressured to get married by the females around him.

There are plenty of men that like their freedom or want to pursue a higher calling in their lives or just want to be themselves. Maybe Alistair wants to be such a man. He already has a higher calling in his life (either as a Warden or King of Ferelden if he chooses to rule alone), he may treasure his freedom, he is certainly happiest while being himself...

Leave Alistair be. Let that man enjoy whatever life he has now before undergoing the Calling.

It's Thedas - the nobles are suicidally stupid at the best of times, never mind another Fereldan leadership void breaking out. If he's not going to shore up the lines of succession, he should get off the throne.

[Vestua]

wiccame wrote...

He doesn't want to be married?
He says he either doesn't want a pretend wife...to a romanced warden. Or that he wants to be the one to chose who he marries...maybe he just hasn't found one he likes.

That's not how medieval societies work though, he'd have a lot of political pressure on him to find a wife, especially considering hes a warden and will have a shorter life span than most.

[Dave of Canada]

Only a select few people would want to marry a beheaded corpse.

[thats1evildude]

latariox3 wrote...

So it's been 10 years since Origins and Alistair still doesn't have a wife I can't imagine its because of a lack of suitors.

Question: what are you basing this on?

Alistair never makes a reference to being single or married during his cameo in Act 3 of DA2, unless he happens to be married to the Warden. He also never references his marital status in any of the comics.

While you can take this to mean he's single, it also doesn't rule out the fact that he might be married and just isn't one of those people who mentions he has a significant other every two minutes. (Like every attractive woman I ever speak to, for instance.)

[ElvaliaRavenHart]

I think when you meet him in DA2 it depends on your relationship with him.

As Hawke meeting him as king he does make mention of wife/mistress.

If you meet him as a Warden, he will give you the Heroes Amulet, I think if she did the US.

If a drunk he is bemoaning the fact it all ended poorly. These options come up for female wardens.

I also think for Bioware that Alistair is single or at least for Mr. Gaider he is.

[BouncyFrag]

He actually is. I know this cuz he invited me to the ceremony and left all y'all out in the cold having to beg for food scraps from local vendors who pity you but mostly just hoping that you will go away forever.

[AshenSugar]

He has a wife. He married Anora!

And anyone who thinks my particular playthrough is not canon can swivel!

So there!

[Melca36]

ElvaliaRavenHart wrote...

I think when you meet him in DA2 it depends on your relationship with him.

As Hawke meeting him as king he does make mention of wife/mistress.

If you meet him as a Warden, he will give you the Heroes Amulet, I think if she did the US.

If a drunk he is bemoaning the fact it all ended poorly. These options come up for female wardens.

I also think for Bioware that Alistair is single or at least for Mr. Gaider he is.

There are two dialogues in DA2 for the amulet scene...one for if the Warden dies and one is she is alive.

[Melca36]

The better question is, who is Alistair going to make his heir? Will he and the Warden adopt children? Will they have a child? Will he find someone else who is also in the line of succession? When the time comes, will they go on their callings together? If the Warden has disappeared as of the end of DA2, I would suspect that Alistair has as well. We will probably find out in Inquisition.

The Landsmeet would select the next king.    

[BubbleDncr]

I have 4 Alistairs -

1) Is king with a a dalish warden mistress - I wouldn't mind if Alistair showed up in DA:I with wife, because it was pretty much told to me that would happen way back in Origins, and it hasn't happened yet. It could actually lead to some interesting emotional beats in the story for me, especially if my Warden has "disappeared." So no complaints here if he gets a wife.

2) Is dead - so no wife, ever.

3) Is a Grey Warden - who if he did get a wife, would probably be another Warden, but no one really cares.

4) Is King and married to Anora

So I guess at this point, I would say I think in DA:I, if Alistair is king, he should have a wife - either Anora, Warden Cousland, or someone new, based on player choices in DA:I.

[Cyberbobmkii]

Melca36 wrote...

The Civil War would select the next king.    

Fixed