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#126
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I don't think Alistair can have children after becoming a warden.... I think it sterilises people, and kills them slowly and painfully, especialy towards the end.

If he gets married he still can't produse a child unless someone else helps him and then pretend it's his, or adopt someone.



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I don't think Alistair can have children after becoming a warden.... I think it sterilises people, and kills them slowly and painfully, especialy towards the end.

If he gets married he still can't produse a child unless someone else helps him and then pretend it's his, or adopt someone.

Wardens CAN have children, it's just a really reduced fertility rate.  If they bumped someone enough, they could theoretically have a brat.  It's only impossible with another warden.



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Finding a suitable candidate for queen of Ferelden is a tougher job than it seems. Especially with the amount of gold-diggers. I imagen there being a lot of women simply out there for the wealth.

It might be even MORE difficult that the Warden has set the bar really high for him; after all why settle for something less? :P

Not to mention that I have no hard time imagening that if Alistair truly ditched the Warden, this could be to make "room" to truly love his Queen. And even if he was capable of loving 2 women at the same time, he probably thought of it as cheating, because apparently polygamy = bad in Thedas. Or non-existant. Not enough drama if everyone could love everyone at the same time. Anyway; considering his duty as a King comes before his personal desires when he is unhardened, your Warden will have to bite the dust (though Alistair himself obviously also has to bite the dust).

And besides, think of it; when the Warden manages to find another love but Alistair is stuck being a lonely king (assuming he doesn't want to be a lonely king), who got the short end of the stick? :P

Who cares? We're talking about a royal wedding in a medieval feudal setting, love shouldn't be a big part of the equation here. Nobility marries for heirs and alliances.



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In my canon playthrough Alistair and Anora are leading Ferelden i recovering from the Blight and to a better future. Well, intime they both die and a civil war starts between the most powerful Noble families (my guess, Couslands and Guerrins).

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simple answer-

 

if you don't hook him up in dao, he will never get laid.

 

hes a dork, that's the reason.  being king, despite one would think would get him laid easy, guess even tht doesn't help him get over the level of dork he is.

 

 

that's the charm of the character to some people. but "poindexter with a sword" is still poindexter (from revenge of the nerds).

 

there also don't seem to be too many fat chicks in ferelden also leaving him without the "lower your standards" option.



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I also find it strange if he isn't married in DA:I, as a king he has a responsibility to continue his line - something he would be aware of when he agreed to take the throne. I always have a hardened Alistair rule alone. I would have him marry Anora if there weren't for the rumours that she's barren (might just be rumours, or could be because she and Cailan didn't get along, or Cailan was the sterile one) and even if she wasn't she's getting a little old to have children in a mediaeval world. Either way, it isn't a risk worth taking when Alistair can just marry another noble.

 

Cousland would be a good alternative if Alistair didn't have children though.



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There's one main reason Alistair can never have children - plot simplification. The game developers need to have a universe where big world changing things - like the existsnce of an heir to the throne of Ferelden - are consistent from one player's game to the next. Alastair can die and leave no children. He can refuse the throne, or be exiled completely. He can marry the warden, with whom he cannot have children. He can marry Anora, who is barren. Probably a good half or more of all game saves result in a game-state where there will be no heir presumptive to reign after Alistair (or Anora). If the writers are potentially planning for the issue of who will rule Ferelden after Alistair to be important in a future game's plotline, then it is simplest to not allow for the possibility of a legitamite heir in anyone's game. I'd loved see him a happy father, but I'm not going to hold my breath.

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As for the "Is Alistair gay or straight" thing, I seem to recall David Gaider saying that its possible he could be bisexual.  This came up I THINK due to discussion of an elaborate (but canceled) mod called "A Bond of Blood" that would have created a detailed story for a male Warden to romance Alistair.  Wish I could find the quote.  I will have to see if I can hunt it down.



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I should think it's obvious that Alistair is already married. To Aria Cousland. Duh.



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I also find it strange if he isn't married in DA:I, as a king he has a responsibility to continue his line - something he would be aware of when he agreed to take the throne. I always have a hardened Alistair rule alone. I would have him marry Anora if there weren't for the rumours that she's barren (might just be rumours, or could be because she and Cailan didn't get along, or Cailan was the sterile one) and even if she wasn't she's getting a little old to have children in a mediaeval world. Either way, it isn't a risk worth taking when Alistair can just marry another noble.
 
Cousland would be a good alternative if Alistair didn't have children though.


I followed the same logic as you with the King Alistair Anora marriage and had Alistair rule alone. However, I always thought the best option for Ferelden was to look for a marriage alliance with another country rather than sourcing a spouse from inside Ferelden. After the blight Ferelden was badly weakened and Orlais seemed likely to take advantage of the situation. If I were Alistair I'd have been looking in Navarre for a well connected wife and a treaty. Alistair's claim is pretty secure after the landsmeet and in my game he's got the Couslands as well as Eamon supporting him to keep the Ferelden nobility in check.

Excuse the aside into headcannon speculation but I find it interesting to hear why other players made the decisions the did in DAO. It was one of the few games I've really cared about the consequences of my choices for the NPCs and world.

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I am not a fan of Loghain by a long shot, I got just as much satisfaction killing him as I did Howe. But at the same time, you're the head of an organisation who are supposed to stop the blight at any cost. And Duncan makes that perfectly clear during the city elf origin. 

Duty before personal feelings dictate that Alistair should let Loghain live, but all Alistair cares about is getting revenge.

 

No, it does not.

 

If you have archdemon blood, you can make anyone a wadren. There's thousands of candidates in Denerim.

So why Loghain specificly?

No reason, other than "reedeming" him. And redemption isn't the duty of Grey Wardens any more revenge is. So it really doesn't matter either way if you kill him or not.

 

Granted he MIGHT be more useful alive - either as a front-line meatshield or a general - but he may also be a liability. Killing him puts any dillemas to rest and punishes him according to the law of the land.


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It'll probably dealt with in passing gossip. "Did you hear the King of Fereldan finally married?"

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I don't think Alistair wants to get married. From all the women he meets, he only gets to marry the female warden or Anora, the latter you have to persuade to marry him. And perhaps he's been trying to flirt with Celene the last ten years, Cailan had the same idea. And wouldn't it ring nice to be husband of an empress?



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I suspect the real reason is that Bioware wants to avoid wasting the time and energy creating a new character who exists for the sole purpose of being Alistair's baby factory. There's no way that goes over well.

 

Firstly out of the six possible outcomes for Alistair, this hypothetical character only needs to exist in one of them.

 

Secondly, either she'll exist with so little screen time as to have no characterization beyond Alistair's bed warmer, or you'd have to devote enough screen time to develop & showcase her character that even if she is a perfectly likable character,you'll get backlash for her eating up screen time better served for things actually relevant to the plot.



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He a loser

 

He'll be marrying into the commoners



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I don't know if it's gauche to put a link to one's blog in a forum, but if anyone is interested, I examine Alistair's marital prospects as sole ruler of Ferelden as of 9:31 Dragon in some detail (just scroll down to the footnote).  It's pretty long, so I won't post all of it here.  But, if you want a preview, here's part of it (SPOILERS):

 

Marrying outside of Ferelden: 
In order to be acceptable to the Landsmeet, his potential wife would have to possess similar values. This immediately excludes Tevinter. Because magic is still regarded with suspicion in Ferelden, a mage wife, much less one from a country which espouses slavery, would be out of the question. A wife from Rivain, being non-Andrastian, also would cast suspicion upon the throne, let alone a wife from Par Vollen or the Qunari-controlled Seheron. Choosing a wife from among the warring plutocrats of Antiva would risk incurring the wrath of rival houses and the inevitable attentions of the Antivan Crows. 

There are also logistical issues, such as the availability of an appropriately aged, unmarried female who would be willing to marry Alistair. Given the ruling dynasty of Pentaghasts is dying out, this eliminates Nevarra as a possibility, at least, until a new dynasty takes over. While the King of the Anderfels holds power equivalent to a Fereldan Teryn or Orlesian baron, it is unknown whether he has any daughters or sisters. Besides, with the Wardens largely governing the Anderfels outside of the capital and Alistair already being a Grey Warden, it would be difficult to see what further political or economic advantage could be gained through marriage. Other options include a noblewoman from the Free Marches, and of course, Empress Celene. Of the latter two, forming an alliance with one of the three most powerful families in the Free Marches appears the most viable and attractive option, as it might result in improved agricultural trade, something the Blighted lands of Ferelden would sorely need. Unfortunately, neither Prince Goran Vael of Starkhaven nor Viscount Marlowe Dumar of Kirkwall have marriageable relatives, while little is known of the Teryn of Ostwick. The benefit of an alliance with Orlais is less clear-cut. As evidenced by Loghain's ability to gather allies to his cause, residual distrust of Orlais in the Landsmeet is not something to be underestimated, particularly now that the Blight is no longer a pressing issue. Given the 27-year-old Celene's lukewarm response to Cailan's proposal and rumours of her unhappiness at having her chevaliers turned away at the border by Loghain, it is unclear whether she would now consider such a union, particularly to a country weakened by the Blight. 



#142
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Uh, Alistair is married to either the Warden or Anora in some playthroughs. Though I guess if he's married to TW his wife is missing now. Which kinda begs the question why isn't he worried?


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Uh, Alistair is married to either the Warden or Anora in some playthroughs. Though I guess if he's married to TW his wife is missing now. Which kinda begs the question why isn't he worried?

 

The question here is why he isn't married specifically in playthroughs where you didn't marry him to either Anora or the Warden.


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Kinda hard to get married if you left your head at the chopping block. 



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Maybe he is but we just don't know about it ,or maybe because he don't want marry woman that he doesn't love as he is such type of person.



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I suspect the real reason is that Bioware wants to avoid wasting the time and energy creating a new character who exists for the sole purpose of being Alistair's baby factory. There's no way that goes over well.

 

Firstly out of the six possible outcomes for Alistair, this hypothetical character only needs to exist in one of them.

 

Secondly, either she'll exist with so little screen time as to have no characterization beyond Alistair's bed warmer, or you'd have to devote enough screen time to develop & showcase her character that even if she is a perfectly likable character,you'll get backlash for her eating up screen time better served for things actually relevant to the plot.

 

I stand by this.



#147
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Maybe because Gaider is afraid of the huge fanrage that would ensue?
Anyone recall the "ALISTAIR NEVER LOVED YOU" or "Darkspawn DLC" snafu?

 

I mean the second was funny.

"HE DID NOT REMAIN PURE TO MY WARDEN WHO HE KNEW FOR ONE DAY! OH RAGE OH BOTHER OOHHHH!!!!"

Hahahah.

 

I know most said it does not work in character, but I STILL saw lots of that.



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If Gaider's afraid of fan backlash he's in the wrong line of work.



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Maybe he is but we just don't know about it ,or maybe because he don't want marry woman that he doesn't love as he is such type of person.

This is definitely possible.



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Maybe because Gaider is afraid of the huge fanrage that would ensue?
Anyone recall the "ALISTAIR NEVER LOVED YOU" or "Darkspawn DLC" snafu?

 

I mean the second was funny.

"HE DID NOT REMAIN PURE TO MY WARDEN WHO HE KNEW FOR ONE DAY! OH RAGE OH BOTHER OOHHHH!!!!"

Hahahah.

 

I know most said it does not work in character, but I STILL saw lots of that.

What are you talking about? Bioware love fan tears. :P