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[leaguer of one]

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

leaguer of one wrote...

1. They would work if Templar did not abuse their power and do it in a manner mages right are taken in mind. No procircle mage want attack anyone till the templars tried to jail us in our own tower.

2. The veil tears because of alot of death in the area, not just because mage involvement. And their other horrilbe things that happen in DA that don't involve mages.

1.L®ight... *coughs*  circle mages in ferdelden *hidden and secret message* shhh my friend there is place where mages are threated good it is called tevinter and it sucks:bandit: *end of message* I will take that as win on naive theory if templars will be good for mages mages will show love and we will have eternal peace:devil: if not enough examples i always have more...

2.Mostly because of magic or at least caused by mages as far we have only orphanage caused by non-mages.

1.And the tower came back into  the  control of the Templars thanks to the Warden with the help of Circle Mages. Added, It's Loghan's Fault for the circle be coming like that. In addition those mages that uprised wanted to end the circle. Note how I'm commenting on pro-circle mages.

2.Still all the horribel thing in Thadus is not cause by Mages.

Modifié par leaguer of one, 02 février 2014 - 04:57 .

[AresKeith]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

I have to admit I am interested in seeing Fiona ingame though, both for her as well as I finally want to meet Alistair's mother. It would be cool that if Alistair is alive the two meet up.

It's only speculation that Fiona is Alistair's mother

[TheKomandorShepard]

superdeathdealer14 wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

You'll have better luck squeezing water from molten lava than convincing Kommandor that mages aren't evil, leaguer.

Shut up and take my +1

What i don't think that mages are evil well they are mostly stupid evil lunatic that attack my pc in insanity but that is different point.

As i said morality hardly matters when dealing with mages they are unstable and extremely dangerous for everything around weather you like it or not that is in case...

They are responsible most problems that thedas have and i have to deal with during my characters journey so i can say safer and better without them...

leaguer of one wrote...



1.And
the tower came back into  the  control of the Templars thanks to the
Warden with the help of Circle Mages. Added, It's Loghan's Fault for the
circle be coming like that. In addition those mages that uprised wanted
to end the circle. Note how I'm commenting on pro-circle mages.[smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/whistling.png[/smilie]

2.Still all the horribel thing in Thadus is not cause by Mages.

1.Yeah good luck with searching another chuck norris who will solve hopeless situation yep keep trying pushing that on loghain totally that wasn't mages who rebeled and summoned demons...
2.Did i said that everyting just most things

Modifié par TheKomandorShepard, 02 février 2014 - 05:04 .

[leaguer of one]

AresKeith wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

I have to admit I am interested in seeing Fiona ingame though, both for her as well as I finally want to meet Alistair's mother. It would be cool that if Alistair is alive the two meet up.

It's only speculation that Fiona is Alistair's mother

If everything matches up in the lore that Fiona is Alistair's Mother, why would it be a speculation. a speculation is a theory with out firm evidence. We have firm evidence.

[leaguer of one]

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

superdeathdealer14 wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

You'll have better luck squeezing water from molten lava than convincing Kommandor that mages aren't evil, leaguer.

Shut up and take my +1

What i don't think that mages are evil well they are mostly stupid evil lunatic that attack my pc in insanity but that is different point.

As i said morality hardly matters when dealing with mages they are unstable and extremely dangerous for everything around weather you like it or not that is in case...

They are responsible most problems that thedas have and i have to deal with during my characters journey so i can say safer and better without them...

1. You can say the same about the Templars and all of Kirkwall.
2. Mages are not the source of Thedus problems.

[AresKeith]

leaguer of one wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

I have to admit I am interested in seeing Fiona ingame though, both for her as well as I finally want to meet Alistair's mother. It would be cool that if Alistair is alive the two meet up.

It's only speculation that Fiona is Alistair's mother

If everything matches up in the lore that Fiona is Alistair's Mother, why would it be a speculation. a speculation is a theory with out firm evidence. We have firm evidence.

And yet it still isn't confirmed, therefore it's still speculation

For all we know there's a third child out there

[Veruin]

leaguer of one wrote...
If everything matches up in the lore that Fiona is Alistair's Mother, why would it be a speculation. a speculation is a theory with out firm evidence. We have firm evidence.

Isn't your only evidence being that his birthdate lines up with the calling?  One piece of evidence isn't exactly firm.

[TheKomandorShepard]

leaguer of one wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

superdeathdealer14 wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

You'll have better luck squeezing water from molten lava than convincing Kommandor that mages aren't evil, leaguer.

Shut up and take my +1

What i don't think that mages are evil well they are mostly stupid evil lunatic that attack my pc in insanity but that is different point.

As i said morality hardly matters when dealing with mages they are unstable and extremely dangerous for everything around weather you like it or not that is in case...

They are responsible most problems that thedas have and i have to deal with during my characters journey so i can say safer and better without them...

1. You can say the same about the Templars and all of Kirkwall.
2. Mages are not the source of Thedus problems.

What i can say there was only 1 templar lunatic meredith other templars were just knight templars most corrupted sure but still were protecting world from abomnations what makes them lighter shade of black comparing to mages who starded blow up everything in insanity...

As far i renember templars weren't random enemies that were in caves they attacked when were provoked by something that hawke did...

2.Every thedas problem nah most yep pretty much

[leaguer of one]

AresKeith wrote...

leaguer of one wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

I have to admit I am interested in seeing Fiona ingame though, both for her as well as I finally want to meet Alistair's mother. It would be cool that if Alistair is alive the two meet up.

It's only speculation that Fiona is Alistair's mother

If everything matches up in the lore that Fiona is Alistair's Mother, why would it be a speculation. a speculation is a theory with out firm evidence. We have firm evidence.

For all we know there's a third child out there

It being not comfermed makes it a Theroy. As I said before the literal defination of Seculation is a theory with out firm evidence. (Look up the meaning.) We do have firm evidence , thuse it's not a specutlation.
And yet it still isn't confirmed, therefore it's still speculation

The fact Duncan watch over Alistar as grew up as more proof that it is a case. Why would he do that to some stangers child? He some how consern will all of Marics children? Would it make more sense for him to be consern for Fionia's child over Maric's?

[leaguer of one]

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

leaguer of one wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

superdeathdealer14 wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

You'll have better luck squeezing water from molten lava than convincing Kommandor that mages aren't evil, leaguer.

Shut up and take my +1

What i don't think that mages are evil well they are mostly stupid evil lunatic that attack my pc in insanity but that is different point.

As i said morality hardly matters when dealing with mages they are unstable and extremely dangerous for everything around weather you like it or not that is in case...

They are responsible most problems that thedas have and i have to deal with during my characters journey so i can say safer and better without them...

1. You can say the same about the Templars and all of Kirkwall.
2. Mages are not the source of Thedus problems.

What i can say there was only 1 templar lunatic meredith other templars were just knight templars most corrupted sure but still were protecting world from abomnations what makes them lighter shade of black comparing to mages who starded blow up everything in insanity...

As far i renember templars weren't random enemies that were in caves they attacked when were provoked by something that hawke did...

2.Every thedas problem nah most yep pretty much

1. Bs. I had a pile of dead crazy templars in Act 2 before Meredith went crazy. Sorry but you can say the same about Templars and most of Kirkwall.

2. The fall of the dales, the sacking of Fereldin, the civil war in Orlais, the massacre in Rivain, The qunari takingKirkwall the first time?...I can keep going?

[Veruin]

leaguer of one wrote...

The fact Duncan watch over Alistar as grew up as more proof that it is a case. Why would he do that to some stangers child? He some how consern will all of Marics children? Would it make more sense for him to be consern for Fionia's child over Maric's?

Where is it stated that Duncan watched over Alistair as he grew up?  Being 20 or so and being accepted into the wardens is not what I'd consider "Watching over my child as they grow up"

Modifié par Veruin, 02 février 2014 - 05:17 .

[leaguer of one]

Veruin wrote...

leaguer of one wrote...

The fact Duncan watch over Alistar as grew up as more proof that it is a case. Why would he do that to some stangers child? He some how consern will all of Marics children? Would it make more sense for him to be consern for Fionia's child over Maric's?

Where is it stated that Duncan watched over Alistair as he grew up?  Being 20 or so and being accepted into the wardens is not what I'd consider "Watching over my child as they grow up"

And He just happen to knowingly the elect secret son of Meric in the Warden's just because.

Modifié par leaguer of one, 02 février 2014 - 05:22 .

[Veruin]

leaguer of one wrote...
And He just happen to knowingly elect secret son of Meric in the Warden's just because.

"We need people to combat darkspawn magicks.  I know, let's go see if we can recruit some Templars!"

[AresKeith]

Veruin wrote...

leaguer of one wrote...

The fact Duncan watch over Alistar as grew up as more proof that it is a case. Why would he do that to some stangers child? He some how consern will all of Marics children? Would it make more sense for him to be consern for Fionia's child over Maric's?

Where is it stated that Duncan watched over Alistair as he grew up?  Being 20 or so and being accepted into the wardens is not what I'd consider "Watching over my child as they grow up"

It's best to.just ignore him, he'll just start arguing in circles

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Let's not bicker over this. Like leaguer said, it's just a theory. We are allowed to support theories. It's never confirmed the star-struck maid who died was Alistair's mother either. Support what you want to support.

[Br3admax]

Veruin wrote...

leaguer of one wrote...
And He just happen to knowingly elect secret son of Meric in the Warden's just because.

"We need people to combat darkspawn magicks.  I know, let's go see if we can recruit some Templars!"

Lore-wise, darkspawn magic doesn't work the same way as the rest of ours. 

[leaguer of one]

Veruin wrote...

leaguer of one wrote...
And He just happen to knowingly elect secret son of Meric in the Warden's just because.

"We need people to combat darkspawn magicks.  I know, let's go see if we can recruit some Templars!"

Yes...Over 3 other more skilled templars. Yes, getting a templar in the order is a good idea....But why spacifily Alistar?

[TheKomandorShepard]

leaguer of one wrote...

1. Bs. I had a pile of dead crazy templars in Act 2 before Meredith went crazy. Sorry but you can say the same about Templars and most of Kirkwall.

2. The fall of the dales, the sacking of Fereldin, the civil war in Orlais, the massacre in Rivain, The qunari takingKirkwall the first time?...I can keep going?

Well if you were pro mage yes if you were pro-templar you can avoid killing pretty much any templar outside alrik if you are doing anders quest and rebeled templars... At worst templars were corrupted and selfish or fanatical.Even alrik wasn't insane just corrupted and pervy...

Well mages mostly possesed or just nuts hell lets kidnap hawke sister/brother ,start summon demons , or lets kill peoples...

2.Well elves in first place were choped by tevinter empire as i renember... and a mostly it isn't nothing more that country problems like in real life and far far from blight or abomnations that are killing everyone and destroying everything... i can admit you qunari yet so here you have but still mages are masters of causing trobules...

Modifié par TheKomandorShepard, 02 février 2014 - 05:28 .

[leaguer of one]

AresKeith wrote...

Veruin wrote...

leaguer of one wrote...

The fact Duncan watch over Alistar as grew up as more proof that it is a case. Why would he do that to some stangers child? He some how consern will all of Marics children? Would it make more sense for him to be consern for Fionia's child over Maric's?

Where is it stated that Duncan watched over Alistair as he grew up?  Being 20 or so and being accepted into the wardens is not what I'd consider "Watching over my child as they grow up"

It's best to.just ignore him, he'll just start arguing in circles

I'm not. All I did was correct you. It's not a speculation. It's a theory.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

superdeathdealer14 wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

You'll have better luck squeezing water from molten lava than convincing Kommandor that mages aren't evil, leaguer.

Shut up and take my +1

Yoink. 

[Lulupab]

leaguer of one wrote...

Veruin wrote...

leaguer of one wrote...
And He just happen to knowingly elect secret son of Meric in the Warden's just because.

"We need people to combat darkspawn magicks.  I know, let's go see if we can recruit some Templars!"

Yes...Over 3 other more skilled templars. Yes, getting a templar in the order is a good idea....But why spacifily Alistar?

The whole idea "templars are good against darkspawn magic" is pure bs. As br3ad meantionsed lorewise Darkspawn magic is very different. Also there are two known Templars who were grey wardens. Alistair who was not even a full Templar yet and Rolan who was recruited with strings being pulled only to watch over Anders. The chantry would never let any Templar go as Alistair firmly confirms it.

[leaguer of one]

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

leaguer of one wrote...

1. Bs. I had a pile of dead crazy templars in Act 2 before Meredith went crazy. Sorry but you can say the same about Templars and most of Kirkwall.

2. The fall of the dales, the sacking of Fereldin, the civil war in Orlais, the massacre in Rivain, The qunari takingKirkwall the first time?...I can keep going?

Well if you were pro mage yes if you were pro-templar you can avoid killing pretty much any templar outside alrik if you are doing anders quest and rebeled templars... At worst templars were corrupted and selfish or fanatical.Even alrik wasn't insane just corrupted and pervy...

Well mages mostly possesed or just nuts hell lets kidnap hawke sister/brother ,start summon demons , or lets kill peoples...

2.Well elves in first place were choped by tevinter empire as i renember... and a mostly it isn't nothing more that country problems like in real life and far far from blight or abomnations that are killing everyone and destroying everything... i can admit you qunari yet so here you have but still mages are masters of causing trobules...

1. Even if your pro templar their a pile of dead templars at your feet by Act2. Being pro-templer just means less dead Templars at your feet in Avt 3.

2.And Then they were given back their home land...And the normal non mages took it away. And their is more horrible non-mage related things as well.

[AresKeith]

leaguer of one wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

Veruin wrote...

leaguer of one wrote...

The fact Duncan watch over Alistar as grew up as more proof that it is a case. Why would he do that to some stangers child? He some how consern will all of Marics children? Would it make more sense for him to be consern for Fionia's child over Maric's?

Where is it stated that Duncan watched over Alistair as he grew up?  Being 20 or so and being accepted into the wardens is not what I'd consider "Watching over my child as they grow up"

It's best to.just ignore him, he'll just start arguing in circles

I'm not. All I did was correct you. It's not a speculation. It's a theory.

Ok?

[Billy-the-Squid]

She will be useful in the camps, the Qun always has need of more workers, even mages, won't be wasted. She can earn her place in a truly egalitarian society.

[TheKomandorShepard]

leaguer of one wrote...
1. Even if your pro templar their a pile of dead templars at your feet by Act2. Being pro-templer just means less dead Templars at your feet in Avt 3.

2.And Then they were given back their home land...And the normal non mages took it away. And their is more horrible non-mage related things as well.

1.? i don't renember that in act 2 i had to kill any templars  for now i renember that i have to kill rebel templars in act 3 for meredith...

2.Yep in first place their first homeland wouldn't be destroyed and i can bet first land was much stronger than not-long standing second land... and wasn't tensions big because elves refused to deal with blight (that was caused by mages) , i may be wrong of course im not expert when it comes about elven history.