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[leaguer of one]

Veruin wrote...

So, those are the only two ingredients in it? I think not. If I recall, Anders says those are the two he has trouble getting.

The crystallized ****** has issues since the Templars check out the sewers now that the mage underground was dissolved.

The Drake stone because he has to deal with dragons.

Those were the most vital ingrediants. And being that it's alchemy it has no magic form the mage. Even Rogues and worrior can use alchemy. The super concentrated human poop and dragoon dropping gave the bomb the boom it had.

[leaguer of one]

Veruin wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Yes, but regardless of cause the reaction is the same. The more your rights are opposed, the more you'll want to resist. The problem is unlike the city Elves or Casteless Dwarves, the mages actually have the power to fight back.

I understand that, but I wanted to know why she suddenly started squeezing.

Because she thought the mages were hiding blood mages...Which Orsino was doing.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Veruin wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Yes, but regardless of cause the reaction is the same. The more your rights are opposed, the more you'll want to resist. The problem is unlike the city Elves or Casteless Dwarves, the mages actually have the power to fight back.

I understand that, but I wanted to know why she suddenly started squeezing.

She was in a position of power and with no viscount, there was nobody that would really get in her way. Well, with the excepton of Elthina but so long as she kept doing her Templar duty she wouldn't get busted by her for that. That added with the paranoia she had being fueled by the Red Lyrium sword, and there you go.

Modifié par LDS Darth Revan, 07 février 2014 - 02:58 .

[Veruin]

So, the fact that Anders was a mage doesn't affect anything at all? The fact that they were all normal ingredients instantly disqualifies it for being magical. (Even though they aren't the only ingrediants, but whatever.  How much of chemistry do you know?)

I cannot fathom how you think this way.

Modifié par Veruin, 07 février 2014 - 02:59 .

[Hellion Rex]

leaguer of one wrote...

Veruin wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Yes, but regardless of cause the reaction is the same. The more your rights are opposed, the more you'll want to resist. The problem is unlike the city Elves or Casteless Dwarves, the mages actually have the power to fight back.

I understand that, but I wanted to know why she suddenly started squeezing.

Because she thought the mages were hiding blood mages...Which Orsino was doing.

One mage, who he had stopped supporting by that point. And regardless, by the time Varric claims she had "begun to squeeze", Quentin was long dead.

[leaguer of one]

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Yeah. As Varric explains in his transition from Act 2 to Act 3.

"The more she squeezed the mages, the more they resisted. The more they resisted, the tighter she squeezed. After three years of that, it all came crashing down."

So the entire Kirkwall situation started by Meredith being harsh on the mages. And when she made it harsher, the worse it got.

yeah because ferelden circle proved otherwise ups you lost my friend
It was prove that templars were incompetent because mages fled continuously from circles if security measures were good mages never would escape from circles and other times templars were just too soft like thrask who helped escape mages and bum who mages were abomnations... 

You understand that mages also tried to stop the uprising and it was cause because of Loghain.
Mage took back the tower in fereldin into the hand of the templar with the Warden.

[TheKomandorShepard]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...


Anders is an abomination, last I checked. He's not just 1 mage.

Not normal abomnation most of time he was normal mage and even when he was turning into abomnation it wasn't standard type of abomnation...  

leaguer of one wrote...

1. That was done with alchemy. Anyone can do alchemy.
2. None, where power hungery. They just wanted normal rights.

1.So how anders detonate it if that was just alchemy? And why it was never used if anyone can do that i think such ability would be useful...
2.No should i start point? Yeah lets give hulk rights of normal person... it always starts i want normal right and then im special i want everything...

leaguer of one wrote...

You understand that mages also tried to stop the uprising and it was cause because of Loghain.
Mage took back the tower in fereldin into the hand of the templar with the Warden.

laaame excuse loghain did almost nothing in case only uldred and other mages went rebel and turned entire tower into abomnation tower and it was still abomnation tower loghain or not even that it wasn't his fault...

Modifié par TheKomandorShepard, 07 février 2014 - 03:02 .

[leaguer of one]

eluvianix wrote...

leaguer of one wrote...

Veruin wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

Yes, but regardless of cause the reaction is the same. The more your rights are opposed, the more you'll want to resist. The problem is unlike the city Elves or Casteless Dwarves, the mages actually have the power to fight back.

I understand that, but I wanted to know why she suddenly started squeezing.

Because she thought the mages were hiding blood mages...Which Orsino was doing.

One mage, who he had stopped supporting by that point. And regardless, by the time Varric claims she had "begun to squeeze", Quentin was long dead.

He did not stop supporting him. He activley help hide him form Meredith. He only stopped suppoting that blood mage because the guy die. He also was not the only  blood mage. And Meredith was squeezing from act 2. She first started to ask for the right of annualment in act 2.

[Lulupab]

@ leaguer of one

Technically its not a bomb, it does mass destruction but its not a 'bomb'. It does not explode the chantry, an energy force erupts from the ground beneath chantry, shattering and moving chantry upwards then the power source suddenly dies and pieces of chantry scatter.

I think the ingredients are powering the magic Anders used, they are useless on their own. I think dragon poop has magical properties like Lyrium and Anders plants those in the chantry and use his magic to harness their power. He kinda remotely activates the whole thing when he wants. Further solidifying that it has to do with usage of his magic.

[Heimdall]

leaguer of one wrote...

Veruin wrote...

So, those are the only two ingredients in it? I think not. If I recall, Anders says those are the two he has trouble getting.

The crystallized ****** has issues since the Templars check out the sewers now that the mage underground was dissolved.

The Drake stone because he has to deal with dragons.

Those were the most vital ingrediants. And being that it's alchemy it has no magic form the mage. Even Rogues and worrior can use alchemy. The super concentrated human poop and dragoon dropping gave the bomb the boom it had.

Anders said it was an alchemical potion.  He also said it was designed to separate himself and Vengeance.  He lied.  Veruin's correct, that explosion was clearly magical in nature.

[leaguer of one]

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...


Anders is an abomination, last I checked. He's not just 1 mage.

Not normal abomnation most of time he was normal mage and even when he was turning into abomnation it wasn't standard type of abomnation...  

leaguer of one wrote...

1. That was done with alchemy. Anyone can do alchemy.
2. None, where power hungery. They just wanted normal rights.

1.So how anders detonate it if that was just alchemy? And why it was never used if anyone can do that i think such ability would be useful...
2.No should i start point? Yeah lets give hulk rights of normal person... it always starts i want normal right and then im special i want everything...

1. The formula is from teventor and it's called a fuse.

2.Hulk does not want to kill anyone. He only want to be left alone I hope you know. All the damage that happen is because people attack the Hulk. The same concept can be applied with teh mages.

[KaiserShep]

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

2.No should i start point? Yeah lets give hulk rights of normal person... it always starts i want normal right and then im special i want everything...

Lol, I'd like to see someone try to take the Hulk's rights away.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...


Anders is an abomination, last I checked. He's not just 1 mage.

Not normal abomnation most of time he was normal mage and even when he was turning into abomnation it wasn't standard type of abomnation...  

Wouldn't that make Anders even more dangerous than a regular abomination. He has the power of one, but still able to strategize and reason? Like how an Awakened Darkspawn is more dangerous than a regular Darkspawn.

Also, whenever Vengeance took over Anders had no control or else he wouldn't have even attempted to attack Ella. 

[leaguer of one]

Lord Aesir wrote...

leaguer of one wrote...

Veruin wrote...

So, those are the only two ingredients in it? I think not. If I recall, Anders says those are the two he has trouble getting.

The crystallized ****** has issues since the Templars check out the sewers now that the mage underground was dissolved.

The Drake stone because he has to deal with dragons.

Those were the most vital ingrediants. And being that it's alchemy it has no magic form the mage. Even Rogues and worrior can use alchemy. The super concentrated human poop and dragoon dropping gave the bomb the boom it had.

Anders said it was an alchemical potion.  He also said it was designed to separate himself and Vengeance.  He lied.  Veruin's correct, that explosion was clearly magical in nature.

The lie was that it separated himself form venegence. It still was an alchemical potion just a different one that was first explain to Hawk.

The explosion is from poop and dragon droppings.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

All this talk of alchemy makes me want to be able to do alchemy Fullmetal Alchemist style as a new power for all classes.

[leaguer of one]

Rassler wrote...

@ leaguer of one

Technically its not a bomb, it does mass destruction but its not a 'bomb'. It does not explode the chantry, an energy force erupts from the ground beneath chantry, shattering and moving chantry upwards then the power source suddenly dies and pieces of chantry scatter.

I think the ingredients are powering the magic Anders used, they are useless on their own. I think dragon poop has magical properties like Lyrium and Anders plants those in the chantry and use his magic to harness their power. He kinda remotely activates the whole thing when he wants. Further solidifying that it has to do with usage of his magic.

No, he mix the Sela Petrae and drake sone into a poiton. Applied a fuse, Put it in the chantry and over time it blow up. It's a bomb made form Alchemy. Anyone can make it with the knowledge.

[leaguer of one]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

All this talk of alchemy makes me want to be able to do alchemy Fullmetal Alchemist style as a new power for all classes.

Dwarf race only.

[EmperorSahlertz]

leaguer of one wrote...

Veruin wrote...

So, those are the only two ingredients in it? I think not. If I recall, Anders says those are the two he has trouble getting.

The crystallized ****** has issues since the Templars check out the sewers now that the mage underground was dissolved.

The Drake stone because he has to deal with dragons.

Those were the most vital ingrediants. And being that it's alchemy it has no magic form the mage. Even Rogues and worrior can use alchemy. The super concentrated human poop and dragoon dropping gave the bomb the boom it had.

Okay.... So let me get this straight.... Just because there are ingredients involved that PRESUMABLY aren't magical in nature, then there is no magic involved at all?
So all the components you gather for Solivitus doesn't actually result in a magical item, but just a strangely enhancing ring?

No. Anders' bomb was magical in nature.

[TheKomandorShepard]

leaguer of one wrote...
1. The formula is from teventor and it's called a fuse.

2.Hulk does not want to kill anyone. He only want to be left alone I hope you know. All the damage that happen is because people attack the Hulk. The same concept can be applied with teh mages.

1.That explain a lot and even more that is is magic...

2.But abomnation wants and thats crushes your argument... now we have mage (bruce) and abomnation (hulk) try control it if he can turn in any moment of his life and start destroy planet and kill peoples...

KaiserShep wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

2.No
should i start point? Yeah lets give hulk rights of normal person... it
always starts i want normal right and then im special i want
everything...

Lol, I'd like to see someone try to take the Hulk's rights away.

Well when he is bruce then it can be done but well try do that when he is hulk good luck and thats point mage is bruce and abomnation is hulk better kill first when you have opportunity than deal with unstoppable monster without any restrains...

[KaiserShep]

I'll bet Sandal was in on this.

[Veruin]

I'm not into comics, but I'm not sure the Hulk is a good comparison to mages.

[Hellion Rex]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

All this talk of alchemy makes me want to be able to do alchemy Fullmetal Alchemist style as a new power for all classes.

YES PLEASE. However, some idiot would probably try to pull a Father and create a big ol' Philosopher's Stone.

[Lulupab]

leaguer of one wrote...

Rassler wrote...

@ leaguer of one

Technically its not a bomb, it does mass destruction but its not a 'bomb'. It does not explode the chantry, an energy force erupts from the ground beneath chantry, shattering and moving chantry upwards then the power source suddenly dies and pieces of chantry scatter.

I think the ingredients are powering the magic Anders used, they are useless on their own. I think dragon poop has magical properties like Lyrium and Anders plants those in the chantry and use his magic to harness their power. He kinda remotely activates the whole thing when he wants. Further solidifying that it has to do with usage of his magic.

No, he mix the Sela Petrae and drake sone into a poiton. Applied a fuse, Put it in the chantry and over time it blow up. It's a bomb made form Alchemy. Anyone can make it with the knowledge.

So basically its a theory of yours. Seeing no such event has happened in history of Thedas I'd stick with my own idea that its magic.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

eluvianix wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

All this talk of alchemy makes me want to be able to do alchemy Fullmetal Alchemist style as a new power for all classes.

YES PLEASE. However, some idiot would probably try to pull a Father and create a big ol' Philosopher's Stone.

Most likely.

[leaguer of one]

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

leaguer of one wrote...
1. The formula is from teventor and it's called a fuse.

2.Hulk does not want to kill anyone. He only want to be left alone I hope you know. All the damage that happen is because people attack the Hulk. The same concept can be applied with teh mages.

1.That explain a lot and even more that is is magic...

2.But abomnation wants and thats crushes your argument... now we have mage (bruce) and abomnation (hulk) try control it if he can turn in any moment of his life and start destroy planet and kill peoples...

KaiserShep wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

2.No
should i start point? Yeah lets give hulk rights of normal person... it
always starts i want normal right and then im special i want
everything...

Lol, I'd like to see someone try to take the Hulk's rights away.

Well when he is bruce then it can be done but well try do that when he is hulk good luck and thats point mage is bruce and abomnation is hulk better kill first when you have opportunity than deal with unstoppable monster without any restrains...

1. It's call alchemy. If that's magic then that mean my rogue in dragon age orgin is a mage for making magical bombs.
2.You clearly don't understand that all mage are abombination, or turn to them and very few of them do turn into them.