Only is they have a height complex. And voiced by Vic Mignogna.leaguer of one wrote...
Dwarf race only.LDS Darth Revan wrote...
All this talk of alchemy makes me want to be able to do alchemy Fullmetal Alchemist style as a new power for all classes.
LDS Darth Revan wrote...
Wouldn't that make Anders even more dangerous than a regular abomination. He has the power of one, but still able to strategize and reason? Like how an Awakened Darkspawn is more dangerous than a regular Darkspawn.TheKomandorShepard wrote...
LDS Darth Revan wrote...
Anders is an abomination, last I checked. He's not just 1 mage.
Not normal abomnation most of time he was normal mage and even when he was turning into abomnation it wasn't standard type of abomnation...
Also, whenever Vengeance took over Anders had no control or else he wouldn't have even attempted to attack Ella.
Out side of the fact you collecting concintrated poop and dragon dropping?Rassler wrote...
leaguer of one wrote...
No, he mix the Sela Petrae and drake sone into a poiton. Applied a fuse, Put it in the chantry and over time it blow up. It's a bomb made form Alchemy. Anyone can make it with the knowledge.Rassler wrote...
@ leaguer of one
Technically its not a bomb, it does mass destruction but its not a 'bomb'. It does not explode the chantry, an energy force erupts from the ground beneath chantry, shattering and moving chantry upwards then the power source suddenly dies and pieces of chantry scatter.
I think the ingredients are powering the magic Anders used, they are useless on their own. I think dragon poop has magical properties like Lyrium and Anders plants those in the chantry and use his magic to harness their power. He kinda remotely activates the whole thing when he wants. Further solidifying that it has to do with usage of his magic.
So basically its a theory of yours. Seeing no such event has happened in history of Thedas I'd stick with my own idea that its magic.
leaguer of one wrote...
1. It's call alchemy. If that's magic then that mean my rogue in dragon age orgin is a mage for making magical bombs.
2.You clearly don't understand that all mage are abombination, or turn to them and very few of them do turn into them.
leaguer of one wrote...
1. It's call alchemy. If that's magic then that mean my rogue in dragon age orgin is a mage for making magical bombs.
Well, if power plus intelligence is more dangerous than just power, than my point of Anders being more dangerous than a regular abomination still stands. Most abominations people think of are of weaker demons, like rage or hunger. And yet Anders had to still resort to tehnology instead of solely magic to blow up a building and not the city goes bak to our original point of an abomination cannot blow up a city.TheKomandorShepard wrote...
As i said anders wan't normal abomnation first he was normal mage for most of the time and "isn't kill everyone mindset" for most of the time normal abomnation have that attitude but that doesn't mean that abomnation is stupid and mindless.Awakened darkspawn is more dangerous because it is capable to think on their own when normal not abomnation can do it at least such abomnations like pride or desire.
LDS Darth Revan wrote...
Only is they have a height complex. And voiced by Vic Mignogna.leaguer of one wrote...
Dwarf race only.LDS Darth Revan wrote...
All this talk of alchemy makes me want to be able to do alchemy Fullmetal Alchemist style as a new power for all classes.
Point to one poition or bomb in dragon age you have to be a mage to make.... I'll wait.addiction21 wrote...
leaguer of one wrote...
1. It's call alchemy. If that's magic then that mean my rogue in dragon age orgin is a mage for making magical bombs.
Just because its alchemy does not preclude magic being used in anyway to combine the ingredients or enhance them in any also.
And no your rogue is not a mage no one is say that then you because you are looking at it backwards.
Modifié par leaguer of one, 07 février 2014 - 03:24 .
LDS Darth Revan wrote...
Well, if power plus intelligence is more dangerous than just power, than my point of Anders being more dangerous than a regular abomination still stands. Most abominations people think of are of weaker demons, like rage or hunger. And yet Anders had to still resort to tehnology instead of solely magic to blow up a building and not the city goes bak to our original point of an abomination cannot blow up a city.TheKomandorShepard wrote...
As i said anders wan't normal abomnation first he was normal mage for most of the time and "isn't kill everyone mindset" for most of the time normal abomnation have that attitude but that doesn't mean that abomnation is stupid and mindless.Awakened darkspawn is more dangerous because it is capable to think on their own when normal not abomnation can do it at least such abomnations like pride or desire.
So being an abomination is something you can turn on and off, huh? I didn't realize that Vengeance, a demon, lived in Anders only when he made an appearance.TheKomandorShepard wrote...
LDS Darth Revan wrote...
Well, if power plus intelligence is more dangerous than just power, than my point of Anders being more dangerous than a regular abomination still stands. Most abominations people think of are of weaker demons, like rage or hunger. And yet Anders had to still resort to tehnology instead of solely magic to blow up a building and not the city goes bak to our original point of an abomination cannot blow up a city.TheKomandorShepard wrote...
As i said anders wan't normal abomnation first he was normal mage for most of the time and "isn't kill everyone mindset" for most of the time normal abomnation have that attitude but that doesn't mean that abomnation is stupid and mindless.Awakened darkspawn is more dangerous because it is capable to think on their own when normal not abomnation can do it at least such abomnations like pride or desire.
Oh god i would talk to the wall...
As i said anders isn't abomnation for most time we saw only few times justice/vengance... and as i said pride and desire demons are usually much more smarter than normal humans... And yes rage and hunger are weaker demons and they aren't stupid as well. But still active abomnation and that seek world destruction is far more dangerous than anders who is rarely true "abomnation" (demon control and power) and anders blow up chantry not demon... avoiding that true abomnation seeks way to create more abomnations...
Modifié par KaiserShep, 07 février 2014 - 03:29 .
Modifié par Rassler, 07 février 2014 - 03:30 .
LDS Darth Revan wrote...
So being an abomination is something you can turn on and off, huh? I didn't realize that Vengeance, a demon, lived in Anders only when he made an appearance.
Anders was following the Mythbusters creed: If it's worth doing, it's worth overdoing.KaiserShep wrote...
It makes one wonder why there even needed to be magic involved at all. An explosion is an explosion. I guess it doesn't have the dramatic flair of beams of light sucking everything up into a vortex of doom, but the Grand Cleric and the rest of the poor people inside would still be dead as door nails. That being said, we don't really know anything beyond the way it looks, so we don't know if such a thing is possible for a regular person to do. I wonder if Bodahn was downplaying the effect Sandal had when he burned down those houses. I wonder...
Rassler wrote...
So Anders is genius now? Seeing neither Tevinter nor the Qunari has used such thing. What anders did could be done with big quantities of gaatlok.
That was no bomb, the bloody chantry turns into pieces. defies gravity goes up in the sky. No alchemy can do that. This is just bs. Bombs don't defy gravity, they explode. And your rouge example was hilarious, just because you made a bomb that explodes in a few feet doesn't mean you can do what Anders did. Its magic and alchemy mixed.
Modifié par Veruin, 07 février 2014 - 03:35 .
No, I love reading.TheKomandorShepard wrote...
LDS Darth Revan wrote...
So being an abomination is something you can turn on and off, huh? I didn't realize that Vengeance, a demon, lived in Anders only when he made an appearance.
lols don't like reading hm?
Point was anders for most time was normal anders perhaps demon influenced him but he was normal mage until justice was in control blue eyes , power and hostile then anders is back no lets destroy world attitude... see difference?
LDS Darth Revan wrote...
No, I love reading.TheKomandorShepard wrote...
LDS Darth Revan wrote...
So being an abomination is something you can turn on and off, huh? I didn't realize that Vengeance, a demon, lived in Anders only when he made an appearance.
lols don't like reading hm?
Point was anders for most time was normal anders perhaps demon influenced him but he was normal mage until justice was in control blue eyes , power and hostile then anders is back no lets destroy world attitude... see difference?
I just don't respond to stuff I've already responded to and know you'll ignore.
But since you brought up he is only an abomination when he is in the Avatar State, then why didn't he blow up city or make more abominations or try to destroy world like you say all abominations do?
Modifié par TheKomandorShepard, 07 février 2014 - 03:37 .
leaguer of one wrote...
Point to one poition or bomb in dragon age you have to be a mage to make.... I'll wait.
1. You have not been in Tevintor or been around the Qunari Long enough to see if they have or have not used something like this so you can't say it does not exsist. You only been to teh southern part of thedus and Tevintor anf the quanri are in the north.Rassler wrote...
@ leaguer of one
So Anders is genius now? Seeing neither Tevinter nor the Qunari has used such thing. What anders did could be done with big quantities of gaatlok.
That was no bomb, the bloody chantry turns into pieces. defies gravity goes up in the sky. No alchemy can do that. This is just bs. Bombs don't defy gravity, they explode. And your rouge example was hilarious, just because you made a bomb that explodes in a few feet doesn't mean you can do what Anders did. Its magic and alchemy mixed.
TheKomandorShepard wrote...
Because he never had opportunity? Either anders back to control or hawke stoped him in legacy he summons few demons when he lost control because of corry as i said most of the time we see anders in control and only when anders loses it justice shows up.Another matter that justice isn't demon just spirit and not most strongest and we can argue if he was rly demon or not...
like it or not it isn't normal possession...
spirosz wrote...
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Modifié par Veruin, 07 février 2014 - 03:44 .
Veruin wrote...
Rassler wrote...
So Anders is genius now? Seeing neither Tevinter nor the Qunari has used such thing. What anders did could be done with big quantities of gaatlok.
That was no bomb, the bloody chantry turns into pieces. defies gravity goes up in the sky. No alchemy can do that. This is just bs. Bombs don't defy gravity, they explode. And your rouge example was hilarious, just because you made a bomb that explodes in a few feet doesn't mean you can do what Anders did. Its magic and alchemy mixed.
The fact he takes a gameplay skill and uses it as lore is also funny. This must mean that sword and shield warriors can become fully immune to damage. Who needs templars if you have that? Or that Isabela can backstab anyone and everyone in a circlular area within seconds. Or that mages can't heal themselves while using blood magic. Or that greatswords are effective against stone golems.
Look at any fumula for a grenade...addiction21 wrote...
leaguer of one wrote...
Point to one poition or bomb in dragon age you have to be a mage to make.... I'll wait.
Proof of burden is on you so show us where it is written that magic cannot be used in alchemy in any way ever and no "I canz make bombs" does not preclude magic from being used along with alchemy.
Along with that give us the complete list of ingredients Anders used and the methods and means he used to combine them. Because you clearly know all of that.
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