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[leaguer of one]

Veruin wrote...

spirosz wrote...

I love you.

Leagur or TKS?  Because we have two fallacies going on. 

So because you don't under stand how alchamy works, not looked it up in the lore I'm on the same scale as TKS?

[Veruin]

Rassler wrote...

Exactly. I reloaded a save game to check and Anders voice gets mixed with justice's when he says "There can be no half-measures" right before chantry explodes. I think at that moment he "sets the trigger" because the chantry explodes right after he says that. Possibily Justice is required for it but we can never know for sure.

I had a theory that since Spirits can manipulate the lyrium, confirmed by Justice and codex, they can possibly change all magical subtsances in a way. Meaning drakestone and sela patrae is not explosive by nature but once manipulated by a spirit of fade they can be. Just a theory though.

While telekinesis does exist, I don't think Justice had anything to do with it, since it does have a certain drop off point.  Since Anders and Justice are merged, I don't see how Justice can influence lyrium if it's all the way in hightown.

I think the potion/bomb/whatever just had a fuse and the Anders/Justice voiceover is just foreshadowing.

leaguer of one wrote...
So because you don't under stand how alchamy works, not looked it up in the lore I'm on the same scale as TKS?

Gameplay is not credible lore.  Do you also believe that anyone with a sword and shield is capable of making themselves immune to all forms of damage?

I put you in the same category as him since you both come up with inane theories that only you believe.

Modifié par Veruin, 07 février 2014 - 03:54 .

[TheKomandorShepard]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

TheKomandorShepard wrote...

Because he never had opportunity? Either anders back to control or hawke stoped him in legacy he summons few demons when he lost control because of corry as i said most of the time we see anders in control and only when anders loses it justice shows up.Another matter that justice isn't demon just spirit and not most strongest and we can argue if he was rly demon or not...


like it or not it isn't normal possession...

Opportunity doesn't matter. You said that abominations live solely to do those things, so opportunity doesn't matter. Especially considering he had opportunity every time it happened, considering he was in the Chantry or under the Gallows. And you also said that the mages can not regain control after possession by a demon. And he is not Justice, he is Vengeance which is the demonized version of Justice. Same reason a spirit of Faith can be demonized into a spirit of Pride. So basically you have just goner against every argument you've made against abominations in your trying to blame Anders as a person. My mission is done. 

omg you love just making things up facepalm

ok i will tell that slowly because you have problems with thinking for now

Yes opportunity matter because if you don't have opportunity to do something you can't do that.Yes because they do but only when demon in in control (and demon is always in control) and guess what in anders case it isn't because anders as i said isn't normal abomnation... he is as far only such type of abomnation... No he didn't control always was regined by anders (always...) .Vengance or not perhaps sometimes it is called vengance sometimes justice we don't know in fade he was acting as justice not vengance... Not rly anders blow up chantry not justice/vengance so then normal mage when he was doing that not mr glowy eyes... 

[leaguer of one]

Rassler wrote...

Veruin wrote...

Rassler wrote...

So Anders is genius now? Seeing neither Tevinter nor the Qunari has used such thing. What anders did could be done with big quantities of gaatlok.

That was no bomb, the bloody chantry turns into pieces. defies gravity goes up in the sky. No alchemy can do that. This is just bs. Bombs don't defy gravity, they explode. And your rouge example was hilarious, just because you made a bomb that explodes in a few feet doesn't mean you can do what Anders did. Its magic and alchemy mixed.

The fact he takes a gameplay skill and uses it as lore is also funny.  This must mean that sword and shield warriors can become fully immune to damage.  Who needs templars if you have that?  Or that Isabela can backstab anyone and everyone in a circlular area within seconds. Or that mages can't heal themselves while using blood magic. Or that greatswords are effective against stone golems.

Exactly. I reloaded a save game to check and Anders voice gets mixed with justice's when he says "There can be no half-measures" right before chantry explodes. I think at that moment he "sets the trigger" because the chantry explodes right after he says that. Possibily Justice is required for it but we can never know for sure.

I had a theory that since Spirits can manipulate the lyrium, confirmed by Justice and codex, they can possibly change all magical subtsances in a way. Meaning drakestone and sela patrae is not explosive by nature but once manipulated by a spirit of fade they can be. Just a theory though.

You not read the lore on the matrals you're making bomb with in da?

Here's on on glitter dust....
"Glitterdust is the powdered form of a rock found along the Wounded Coast. When explorers brought the sparkling rock to the markets of theFree Marches, it became immediately popular among wealthy ladies who crushed it and applied the powder to their faces. The added brightness and lustre to the skin, however, soon paled in comparison to the developing rash and coughing fits. As it turned out, glitterdust is dangerous if ingested or inhaled. It's also extremely flammable, as several ladies discovered after powdering their hair while standing next to a candle. Unfortunately, this resulted in a dozen deaths by conflagration. These days, glitterdust is used sparingly, and only by experienced alchemists. The most common form of the substance is Volatile Glitterdust. If gathered from caves where darkspawn dwell, the rock produces a powder known as Tainted Glitterdust."

Here's one of Felandaris, the material need for the strongest bomb Hawk can make in the game..

The name Felandaris is elven, meaning "demon weed", which is fitting for this rare plant because it grows only in places where the Veil is thin.Felandaris is easily identified. It's a twisted, wicked-looking shrub with long, thorny shoots, and no leaves: a skeletal hand, reaching out from an unmarked grave. Many swear the plant radiates a palpable aura of malevolence, so it comes as no surprise that it unnerves many a junior herbalist.


I was never using gameplay element on the concept of alchemy. In lore, it's clear what ever magic in the bomb is not form the user. It's from the elements. You just making your self look ignorant.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

No, I leave making things up to you, TKS. <_<
By the way, I'm tired of you insulting others so you were reported.

Modifié par LDS Darth Revan, 07 février 2014 - 03:57 .

[leaguer of one]

Veruin wrote...



Gameplay is not credible lore.  Do you also believe that anyone with a sword and shield is capable of making themselves immune to all forms of damage?

I put you in the same category as him since you both come up with inane theories that only you believe.

Do you not read the lore?


"Glitterdust is the powdered form of a rock found along the Wounded Coast. When explorers brought the sparkling rock to the markets of theFree Marches, it became immediately popular among wealthy ladies who crushed it and applied the powder to their faces. The added brightness and lustre to the skin, however, soon paled in comparison to the developing rash and coughing fits. As it turned out, glitterdust is dangerous if ingested or inhaled. It's also extremely flammable, as several ladies discovered after powdering their hair while standing next to a candle. Unfortunately, this resulted in a dozen deaths by conflagration. These days, glitterdust is used sparingly, and only by experienced alchemists. The most common form of the substance is Volatile Glitterdust. If gathered from caves where darkspawn dwell, the rock produces a powder known as Tainted Glitterdust."

"The name Felandaris is elven, meaning "demon weed", which is fitting for this rare plant because it grows only in places where the Veil is thin.Felandaris is easily identified. It's a twisted, wicked-looking shrub with long, thorny shoots, and no leaves: a skeletal hand, reaching out from an unmarked grave. Many swear the plant radiates a palpable aura of malevolence, so it comes as no surprise that it unnerves many a junior herbalist."

I was never talking about terms of gameplay.  Take the time to look up the details of the material used to make bomb and you'll see that what ever magic is their is not from the user but the materials.

[TheKomandorShepard]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

No, I leave making things up to you, TKS.

see you tried put things into my mouth that you can't even respond...

**** i was talking about anders not being normal abomnation since the beginning thet you started take parts of what i said without taking another part that i said that demon is always in control... i explained what i meant not that you tried tell what i m saying...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

No, I leave making things up to you, TKS. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/angry.png[/smilie]
By the way, I'm tired of you insulting others so you were reported.

Insulting others who i insulted please point three examples..

Modifié par TheKomandorShepard, 07 février 2014 - 04:02 .

[TheKomandorShepard]

Veruin wrote...


I put you in the same category as him since you both come up with inane theories that only you believe.

What theories please point them...