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[Steelcan]

Once again, a b*tchin theme

 

http://www.youtube.c...93P8&feature=kp

 

I mean you can feel the badass coming out of that music

[Kymera X]

Vain

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Perfection

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Power

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Icy Heart 

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Mentally Broken

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Great Villain  

[dragonflight288]

A good "This can't be, I'm a Biotic God! I'm invincible! NOOOOOO!" scene. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

They all drive Jaguars.

 

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=2Bls1KKDwmo

[Divine Justinia V]

To me, Loghain was one of the best villains.

[Killdren88]

Sympathy is fine just don't make the Villian into a Woobie. I want the game to really make us hate this guy/gal. You can have one or two scenes going "Aww poor guy." but for the majority of the game I want " You evil monster!" Case in point: Loki. The damn studios turned him into a even bigger Woobie than in the comics. Now he is just annoying.

[KaiserShep]

To me, Loghain was one of the best villains.

 

Personally, I'm a bigger fan of Howe as the villain. The guy is such a venomous snake and an insidious opportunist. Loghain I always kill, but Howe I love to do it.

[ladyofpayne]

When you respected him. 

[hangmans tree]

From recent memory:

Letho of Gulet (The Witcher 2). Someone with a motiff and a driving force and a plan. Taken as a simplistic oaf, a brute, outplays sorceresses and The Lodge. He does not do things of spite or just for the sake of doing bad things. A character with a background and a mission placed in the stirr of things, eye of the tornado if you will.

 

I also liked Saren from ME. A "racist" alien with supremacy complex... that was interesting. Another great thing that you could talk him down, convince him in the end that he is being manipulated.

 

The Illusive Man (Masse Effect 2 itereation only). A man with a vision and agenda. Calculative and methodic.

 

I also like utterly evil characters (well written of course). the ones that you want to hate to the bounds of reason. Sometimes you face characters so evil that you cant find words to describe your hatred and disgust. Their actions reasonate with your humanity, in a bad way, often than not they are psyhopaths.

[Lotion Soronarr]

A robe, a staff and the power of magic.

[naddaya]

Humanity. Being reasonable and understandable, albeit with different goals. Complexity. Loghain was a good antagonist. The Architect. Hell, even the darkspawn as a whole. Dragon Age nailed it on villains.

[Zack_Nero]

There motivation

[Lebanese Dude]

If I can sympathize for the villain.

[EmissaryofLies]

A character like Umbridge from the potter books. Or a Sister Petrice from DA II. 

 

Someone who fancies himself to wear the white hat while having nothing but malicious intent. Smiling faces sometimes...

However that is not enough. They need to be difficult to reach, to seemingly never get their comeuppance no matter how they deign to sh** all over our hero. 

Doesn't hurt to be much better looking than the protagonist(s) as well. 

[dragonflight288]

Letho from Witcher 2

 

Main Antagonist of Jade Empire (avoiding his name to avoid HUGE spoilers)

 

Hans from Frozen

 

Evangeline A.K. McDowell from Negima

[Eveangaline]

Them being a legitimate threat to the hero.

[Taleroth]

It is rare for their to be only one path to success. But if I were to distill an essence, it would be the same as many other characters. They have a goal and their actions are all in service of accomplishing that goal.

 

It's the difference between Irenicus and Bodhi. It's why people love Darth Vader, but nobody gives two craps about Count Dooku or General Grevious.

[TheLittleBird]

It is rare for their to be only one path to success. But if I were to distill an essence, it would be the same as many other characters. They have a goal and their actions are all in service of accomplishing that goal.

 

It's the difference between Irenicus and Bodhi. It's why people love Darth Vader, but nobody gives two craps about Count Dooku or General Grevious.

 

Don't people love Vader because of his backstory and relation to Luke and Leia? And how he acts towards the end of Return of the Jedi?

Because I can imagine people seeing him as nothing else than Count Dooku when seeing Episode IV after Episodes I, II and III without knowing anything else about the lore.

 

Granted, I love the guy. 

[Taleroth]

Don't people love Vader because of his backstory and relation to Luke and Leia? And how he acts towards the end of Return of the Jedi?

Because I can imagine people seeing him as nothing else than Count Dooku when seeing Episode IV after Episodes I, II and III without knowing anything else about the lore.

 

Granted, I love the guy. 

People liked Darth Vader even in the first movie, where all he was is an enforcer of the empire. His goal is clear, protect the empire and defeat the rebels. And so he does that. And all of his actions are about that. He defends the Death Star. As the trilogy goes on, more is added to his goals, such as bring Luke to the Dark Side. So he tests Luke, he tries to make him angry, he tries to capture him. Goal and actions in service of that goal.

 

But Count Dooku, what's his goal? Seperate from the Republic, but no really? How does putting Obi-Wan and Anakin in an arena with monsters support that? What's the duel at the end of Attack of the Clones actually supposed to accomplish either?

 

Palpatine at least has a goal. And we can all respect it. He wants to get more power, so he starts wars and crisis that force the senate to invest more power in his position. We all know his goal, we see that his actions are towards it.

[AresKeith]

I liked Count Dooku and Grevious

[Iron Fist]

A great villain believes he or she is the hero of his or her own story.

[TheLittleBird]

People liked Darth Vader even in the first movie, where all he was is an enforcer of the empire. His goal is clear, protect the empire and defeat the rebels. And so he does that. And all of his actions are about that. He defends the Death Star. As the trilogy goes on, more is added to his goals, such as bring Luke to the Dark Side. So he tests Luke, he tries to make him angry, he tries to capture him. Goal and actions in service of that goal.

 

But Count Dooku, what's his goal? Seperate from the Republic, but no really? How does putting Obi-Wan and Anakin in an arena with monsters support that? What's the duel at the end of Attack of the Clones actually supposed to accomplish either?

 

Palpatine at least has a goal. And we can all respect it. He wants to get more power, so he starts wars and crisis that force the senate to invest more power in his position. We all know his goal, we see that his actions are towards it.

 

Well, true, but I wonder if Dooku would be more interesting to people if there hadn't been a Vader. Or how people would like Vader if he had been a villain in a movie that came out today, instead of the original Star Wars trilogy so many years ago.

[Iron Fist]

Well, true, but I wonder if Dooku would be more interesting to people if there hadn't been a Vader. Or how people would like Vader if he had been a villain in a movie that came out today, instead of the original Star Wars trilogy so many years ago.

 

Anakin/Vader was a villain in Revenge of the Sith, which came out in 2005. I think most of us still remember and prefer the original, though.

[Big I]

No cutscene BS (I'm looking at you Kai Leng, I could totally have taken you on Thessia).

 

No BS immortality (I'm looking at you Petrice, I should totally have been able to take you out in Act 1).

 

Limited direct physical interaction with the hero (I'm looking at you Meredith, I kept wanting to assassinate you every time we talked in Act 3).

 

Understandable goals (I still have no idea what the deal was with Flemeth and Morrigan, or what either of them were ultimately after).

 

Their own agenda and a logical, believeable plan.

[realguile]

In DAO i thought howe and loghain (sp?) were great villians. Better than the 'threat' of darkspawn and archdemon. It just seems when the villain had done you wrong and personally tried to put you down or ruin your life it makes it more engrossing.

 

That's just me.