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[FlyingSquirrel]

Shepard's story is over, one way or the other. It would be hard to come up with an encore to stopping the Reapers.

I'll probably get the next ME game eventually - only question is whether it's a Day 1 purchase or I end up waiting for a sale.

[KevShep]

it would be cool if the next threat is the Leviathans. We could recreate/repurpose the reapers or create a different solution to fight the Leviathans. The cannon ending to ME3 would have to be either destroy or control.

[Lord Watson]

Whether I get the next ME has zero to do with Shep. At this point I can say that yes I will definitely be buying it, but too early to say whether I'll pre order. I usually wait it out and buy later. I still have a stack of things I haven't/barely touched.

[Massa FX]

I'll buy.
I'll miss Shepard tho'.

[NeonFlux117]

Nope. Only way I buy the game without Shepard is if the MP has a competitive suite and something like what Halo 4 did with Spartan ops-(episodic content for co-op play). If it's just the boring, repetitive horde mode that ME3 had. Thanks, but no thanks.

That's it. Even then..... I would wait for used copy or sale.

Modifié par NeonFlux117, 03 février 2014 - 08:34 .

[jetblack01]

Gkonone wrote...

 Do you plan on buying ME4 knowing Shepard won't return?
Just curious how the sentiment is now.

At first I was very adamant about not buying another instalment without Shepard but right now I'm not sure.
The story has to be very good, on par with the trilogy we got.
But even then, not seeing the crew ever again, it's weird.

As I said in my other post sort on this subject, i will buy ME4 as long as the main character is not editorially euthanized. 

Its not the loss of Shepard from the next game that bothered me, it was how Bioware decided to implement that change, by sort of making it fait accompli...."he´s dead or dead as far as the universe goes, so forget him". 

There´s a meaness about how they did it which IMO was very disrespectful to the emotional capital folks put into the game. I dont care about the money as i think all MEs were good value for money regardless.

For me, its about emotional capital which counts for alot more than money. I wish Bioware felt the same.

[jetblack01]

Just to add, if the next game flops at all, and is significantly less commercially successful, you will see Shepard return in ME5, count on it.

EA will pull rank and say Bioware bring back the star who made this series.

So i actually think they will one day return with Shepard and say the Destruction ending, and he lives scenario is chosen as canon.

[Lord Watson]

delete.

Modifié par Lord Watson, 03 février 2014 - 08:51 .

[GimmeDaGun]

Nah, he got his trilogy. It's time to move on. I'm not even sure I'd buy the game if Shepard was the main protagonist again. It would smell like milking the franchise.

I want something fresh in the ME-universe. Something new, something creative and original. Bringing back Shepard would mean another game with the same ship, same squad, same everything, except for the reapers.

In short: No.

[NeonFlux117]

jetblack01 wrote...

Just to add, if the next game flops at all, and is significantly less commercially successful, you will see Shepard return in ME5, count on it.

EA will pull rank and say Bioware bring back the star who made this series.

So i actually think they will one day return with Shepard and say the Destruction ending, and he lives scenario is chosen as canon.

Exactly. And this is what most "gamers" or as EA calls them- walking wallet meat bags, don't get.

EA is kinda in trouble right now. There stock and losses this year are really poor. The turd sandwhich that was Battlefield 4 really hurt EA's income and stock. The last thing. The LAST thing, EA wants is another flop from one of their go to devevlopers. If (and I think it's a pretty good chance) ME4 has lackluster sales and reception, I fully expect Shep to return.

Like what Micro$oft did with Mr. Spartan 117.

[GimmeDaGun]

jetblack01 wrote...

Just to add, if the next game flops at all, and is significantly less commercially successful, you will see Shepard return in ME5, count on it.

EA will pull rank and say Bioware bring back the star who made this series.

So i actually think they will one day return with Shepard and say the Destruction ending, and he lives scenario is chosen as canon.

...or they could simply drop the franchise and make other games. That's more likely, I think.

[jetblack01]

GimmeDaGun wrote...

jetblack01 wrote...

Just to add, if the next game flops at all, and is significantly less commercially successful, you will see Shepard return in ME5, count on it.

EA will pull rank and say Bioware bring back the star who made this series.

So i actually think they will one day return with Shepard and say the Destruction ending, and he lives scenario is chosen as canon.

...or they could simply drop the franchise and make other games. That's more likely, I think.

No way EA allows Bioware to throw away a franchise like Mass Effect. That would be like Apple throwing away the i-phone, or Heinz stopping making baked beans. 

I think folks underestimate how hard it is to create a great fictional universe like mass effect. To throw it away instead of re-introducing Shepard would be commercial suicide. It wont happen with EA owning the rights.

Look at Fallout universe, Bethesda bought the rights...

[jetblack01]

NeonFlux117 wrote...

jetblack01 wrote...

Just to add, if the next game flops at all, and is significantly less commercially successful, you will see Shepard return in ME5, count on it.

EA will pull rank and say Bioware bring back the star who made this series.

So i actually think they will one day return with Shepard and say the Destruction ending, and he lives scenario is chosen as canon.

Exactly. And this is what most "gamers" or as EA calls them- walking wallet meat bags, don't get.

EA is kinda in trouble right now. There stock and losses this year are really poor. The turd sandwhich that was Battlefield 4 really hurt EA's income and stock. The last thing. The LAST thing, EA wants is another flop from one of their go to devevlopers. If (and I think it's a pretty good chance) ME4 has lackluster sales and reception, I fully expect Shep to return.

Like what Micro$oft did with Mr. Spartan 117.

I agree. I think ME 4 is going to be really interesting to see if it works out. I personally have a bad feeling about it because of the sort of self destructive attitude seen in euthanizing Shepard.

It´s like these deciions come back to haunt. Bioware are gambling they can create another star like Shepard. I think they are taking alot for granted, including their own great creative work.

[wright1978]

I never had an issue with ME3 being the final installment based around Shep.

If it wasn't for the trainwreck that was ME3 i'd happily be looking forward to the next installment.
As it is i'm rather dubious about getting invested in anything else mass effect as well as dubious about the likely direction of any future installment.

[zed888]

GimmeDaGun wrote...

Nah, he got his trilogy. It's time to move on. I'm not even sure I'd buy the game if Shepard was the main protagonist again. It would smell like milking the franchise.

 Aren't they milking the francise by making ME4 at all?   But back to the question- I don't plan on buying 4, but Shepard has nothing to do with it.   Mind you, if hell froze over and it turned out to be refuse canon or something I'd consider it.

[AlanC9]

GimmeDaGun wrote...


...or they could simply drop the franchise and make other games. That's more likely, I think.

Let's hope. I'd rather Bio not use up one of their release slots with more Shepard. If ME can't go on without Shepard then ME needs to die

I don't think they could bring our  Shepards back anyway. Even if you could somehow do a viable character import cross-engine and cross-generation -- and they had trouble with this on the same machines with an updated engine -- who's going to have an ME3 save five years from now?

Edit: unless they brought back only Sheploo and canonized, say, that Liara is the LI, etc. I'd be in favor of bringing Shep back this way just so I could watch the nerdrage --- it'd be almost as much fun as canonized Synthesis.

Modifié par AlanC9, 03 février 2014 - 10:23 .

[Lord Watson]

AlanC9 wrote...

If ME can't go on without Shepard then ME needs to die

This. 

[The Sarendoctrinator]

AlanC9 wrote...

I don't think they could bring our  Shepards back anyway. Even if you could somehow do a viable character import cross-engine and cross-generation -- and they had trouble with this on the same machines with an updated engine -- who's going to have an ME3 save five years from now?

They could have the game start like ME1, with the player setting up a profile of Shepard's background info.

[jetblack01]

AlanC9 wrote...

GimmeDaGun wrote...


...or they could simply drop the franchise and make other games. That's more likely, I think.

Let's hope. I'd rather Bio not use up one of their release slots with more Shepard. If ME can't go on without Shepard then ME needs to die

I don't think they could bring our  Shepards back anyway. Even if you could somehow do a viable character import cross-engine and cross-generation -- and they had trouble with this on the same machines with an updated engine -- who's going to have an ME3 save five years from now?

Oh they would find a way to bring Shepard back if it means coining it. Come on, we are talking about EA which needs to earn big for its shareholders. ME trilogy has been their best selling games for yonkers. 

In fact i bet EA were not happy Bioware are cutting Shepard out of next game. I can imagine the discussion at management level with EA saying "you guys are crazy" killing off the golden goose. Bioware saying...we need to move on or the whole universe will get old and stale.......sort of like Space child´s philosophy aboutyear zero....hence the analogy.

I still think space child is Bioware in disguise trying to explain why Shepard wont be back!

[AlanC9]

The Sarendoctrinator wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

I don't think they could bring our  Shepards back anyway. Even if you could somehow do a viable character import cross-engine and cross-generation -- and they had trouble with this on the same machines with an updated engine -- who's going to have an ME3 save five years from now?

They could have the game start like ME1, with the player setting up a profile of Shepard's background info.

I'm thinking of the faces. I agree that there's no conceptual problem with having us answer questions for background details; that's how DA:I is doing it.

[AlanC9]

jetblack01 wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

Let's hope. I'd rather Bio not use up one of their release slots with more Shepard. If ME can't go on without Shepard then ME needs to die

Oh they would find a way to bring Shepard back if it means coining it. Come on, we are talking about EA which needs to earn big for its shareholders. ME trilogy has been their best selling games for yonkers. 

What I said was "needs to die." Not "will die;" I agree that there's a nonzero probability of EA doing something despicable.

Modifié par AlanC9, 03 février 2014 - 10:33 .

[The Sarendoctrinator]

AlanC9 wrote...

The Sarendoctrinator wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

I don't think they could bring our  Shepards back anyway. Even if you could somehow do a viable character import cross-engine and cross-generation -- and they had trouble with this on the same machines with an updated engine -- who's going to have an ME3 save five years from now?

They could have the game start like ME1, with the player setting up a profile of Shepard's background info.

I'm thinking of the faces. I agree that there's no conceptual problem with having us answer questions for background details; that's how DA:I is doing it.

Well, I would be hoping for this sort of thing to be included in the game itself rather than separate like the Keep. 

And everyone had to recreate their Shepard's faces in ME3 already, as far as I know. 

[GimmeDaGun]

The Sarendoctrinator wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

The Sarendoctrinator wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

I don't think they could bring our  Shepards back anyway. Even if you could somehow do a viable character import cross-engine and cross-generation -- and they had trouble with this on the same machines with an updated engine -- who's going to have an ME3 save five years from now?

They could have the game start like ME1, with the player setting up a profile of Shepard's background info.

I'm thinking of the faces. I agree that there's no conceptual problem with having us answer questions for background details; that's how DA:I is doing it.

Well, I would be hoping for this sort of thing to be included in the game itself rather than separate like the Keep. 

And everyone had to recreate their Shepard's faces in ME3 already, as far as I know. 

Mine imported just fine.

[FlyingSquirrel]

KevShep wrote...

it would be cool if the next threat is the Leviathans. We could recreate/repurpose the reapers or create a different solution to fight the Leviathans. The cannon ending to ME3 would have to be either destroy or control.

I think the Leviathans have served their purpose - a story centered around them would end up being a Reaper rehash, only with "enthrallment" instead of indoctrination and husks. I suppose the Leviathans' goals would be different, in that they would be more likely to exploit and control existing species than to carry out a harvest, but it would still be a story about the galaxy fighting ancient superbeings.

[Ultim Asari]

I fell in love with the universe more than Shep, I'll be preordering the CE