HYR 2.0 wrote...
It's truly remarkable how much loyalty a generic, blank-slate RPG protagonist inspires.
Nothing about Shepard is irreplaceable with ... another generic, blank-slate RPG protagonist.
... aside from maybe the headcanon that fans have associated with him and gotten attached to...
GimmeDaGun wrote...
knucks360 wrote...
Nate_Assassin wrote...
Im serious with this.
I don't want Shepard at all in the next ME followed by no LI system because it is a waste of development and NO REAPERS or anything related to them.
If there are no LI options in the next game, then BioWare may as well make this their new logo.
Actually I'd welcome that change + this whole cult around all these virtual girlfriends is pretty weird and awkward. Are the LI-s really so important for these games and stories?
It's truly remarkable how much loyalty a generic, blank-slate RPG protagonist inspires.
Nothing about Shepard is irreplaceable with ... another generic, blank-slate RPG protagonist.
... aside from maybe the headcanon that fans have associated with him and gotten attached to...
Well, to be fair, replacing a blank-slate RPG protagonist, as you call it, with another, how is that more interesting?
Well, to be fair, replacing a blank-slate RPG protagonist, as you call it, with another, how is that more interesting?
why not have the best of both worlds.. we play as a tank born clone made from shepards DNA.
Were found in a long abandoned cerberus facility... only one active pod remains...
We would be able to customize the way he/she looks... he/she wouldnt have sheps memories.. so we would be given a fresh start.. a blank slate for a personality.
This would satisfy those wanting a connection to shepard... and satisfy those wanting a new character... this is the storyline i want.. but who knows... i thought the clone in mass effect 3 was a clue to what might come next... not just for fun...
That would basically be the same thing as playing an entirely new character. If the clone has no memories of the real Shepard it is just a random gal/guy with no significant connection to the old Shepard. You could as well just play any random person that looked similar to Shepard.
Well, to be fair, replacing a blank-slate RPG protagonist, as you call it, with another, how is that more interesting?
Because it would also introduce a completely new and fresh story with new interesting companions and supporting characters? Because it can add new perspectives to the MEU and enable different stories?
Seriously the stories of Shepard and crew have been told. There isn't much left to add and if they make another game with them it will just not fit. Like those TV series that have told everything they wanted to but then add another season that ends up totally disconnected from the actual plot of the series *cough* Supernatural *cough*
Just let some new characters tell their stories instead of needlessly expanding the finished stories of the old ones.
That would basically be the same thing as playing an entirely new character. If the clone has no memories of the real Shepard it is just a random gal/guy with no significant connection to the old Shepard. You could as well just play any random person that looked similar to Shepard.
Because it would also introduce a completely new and fresh story with new interesting companions and supporting characters? Because it can add new perspectives to the MEU and enable different stories?
Seriously the stories of Shepard and crew have been told. There isn't much left to add and if they make another game with them it will just not fit. Like those TV series that have told everything they wanted to but then add another season that ends up totally disconnected from the actual plot of the series *cough* Supernatural *cough*
Just let some new characters tell their stories instead of needlessly expanding the finished stories of the old ones.
How can a continuation with Shepard not introduce new interesting companions and supporting characters? A new story is fresh because it's a new one, even if it's perhaps tied to older events.
How do you know everything has been told about Shepard btw?
Where have I seen this before?why not have the best of both worlds.. we play as a tank born clone made from shepards DNA.
Were found in a long abandoned cerberus facility... only one active pod remains...
We would be able to customize the way he/she looks... he/she wouldnt have sheps memories.. so we would be given a fresh start.. a blank slate for a personality.
This would satisfy those wanting a connection to shepard... and satisfy those wanting a new character... this is the storyline i want.. but who knows... i thought the clone in mass effect 3 was a clue to what might come next... not just for fun...
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No Shepard = No Mass Effect
Otherwise they might as well call it something else.
He/she won't be in the next game and I wouldn't be surprised if no reference is made to the trilogy or characters at all
It would be like an RPG revolving around Boba Fett in a way. I like the idea, but it probably won't happen.why not have the best of both worlds.. we play as a tank born clone made from shepards DNA.
Were found in a long abandoned cerberus facility... only one active pod remains...
We would be able to customize the way he/she looks... he/she wouldnt have sheps memories.. so we would be given a fresh start.. a blank slate for a personality.
This would satisfy those wanting a connection to shepard... and satisfy those wanting a new character... this is the storyline i want.. but who knows... i thought the clone in mass effect 3 was a clue to what might come next... not just for fun...
What if BioWare is trolling us all and ME4 is actually going to be about Shepard all along?
No Shepard = No Mass Effect
Otherwise they might as well call it something else.
Uhh, Shepard isn't the centre of the Mass Effect Universe. Why would they need to call it something else? It's called "Mass Effect" because they use Mass Effect technology to do practically everything.
Uhh, Shepard isn't the centre of the Mass Effect Universe. Why would they need to call it something else? It's called "Mass Effect" because they use Mass Effect technology to do practically everything.
Didn't you know? They renamed all the games to "Commander Shepard". Happened over night.
On topic though, I would still buy the game because I love the Mass Effect universe. So excited for a brand new adventure.
How does Shepard follow up saving the galaxy from the reapers? Seriously, there is no story here. They can't pull the "you don't have proof. You never have proof" crap. If Shepard is alive at all, he/she'll be in the position of Prime Minister of the Systems Alliance or something like that. Or retired and living off the book and public speaking fees. None of the old cast has a story to tell. Liara may end up as bartender. Aria will remain a fixture on Omega.
New protagonist.
How can a continuation with Shepard not introduce new interesting companions and supporting characters? A new story is fresh because it's a new one, even if it's perhaps tied to older events.
How do you know everything has been told about Shepard btw?
It could introduce new characters, but it most likely wouldn't because they would most likely just bring the fan favourites back. If they didn't there would just be a huge outrage by the fans again whining about their favourite characters being sidlined (just like people complaining about ME2 companions being reduced to cameos).
And everything has been told about Shepard. Her/his story arc was the battle against the Reapers and that is finished. In two of three endings s/he is either dead or ascended to almost godhood. And even in the one ending where s/he is still alive there are practically no loose ends you could still expand into a whole game.
Of course you could throw Shepard into an entirely new adventure, but that would just look totally out of place and seem like an awful cash grab (Which ME4 wil be anyways, but they don't have to make it that obvious.) .
Ick.
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It's truly remarkable how much loyalty a generic, blank-slate RPG protagonist inspires.
Nothing about Shepard is irreplaceable with ... another generic, blank-slate RPG protagonist.
... aside from maybe the headcanon that fans have associated with him and gotten attached to...
It shouldn't be that surprising. A very good example of this is the Warden of Dragon Age: Origins.
The Warden is arguably the blankest slate of the lot. Shepard in some form always has some kind of personality by the end of the trilogy, but the Warden doesn't even have an actual voice. We as the player must fill even that in with our own imagination. Yet despite the Warden essentially being a plank for us to imprint ourselves upon, people actually wanted this character to return to the sequel!
Hey now, if I hadn't taken this username, someone else would have.
Why not 1 girl 2 reapers?
It shouldn't be that surprising. A very good example of this is the Warden of Dragon Age: Origins.
The Warden is arguably the blankest slate of the lot. Shepard in some form always has some kind of personality by the end of the trilogy, but the Warden doesn't even have an actual voice. We as the player must fill even that in with our own imagination. Yet despite the Warden essentially being a plank for us to imprint ourselves upon, people actually wanted this character to return to the sequel!
Exactly.
The advantage of the blank slate character is that we can draw on the slate. We can decide the character's motivations, beliefs, background. You can make two Shepards with similar preservice histories yet have wildly different perspectives on the galaxy.
It's this sense of ownership that's important to the role-player. We're given a blank slate, and we can paint our own pictures on it.
At least until Bioware then takes the slate back and burns it.
Honestly, I get liking Shepard. I like Shepard as much as anyone else (well some of my Shepards anyway), but to take it to the point of disregarding what might be a great story in a great game just because he/she's not in there is really odd to me. I can see why you might not want to say bye bye to the face of your roleplaying, but the MEU is way bigger than Shepard.
This is just me, but Shepard dying at the end of ME3 felt kind of right.
Personally I'm a bit weary of protagonists dying at the end of their stories, which admittedly is a big part of the reason why I don't choose Control or Synthesis. It's come to the point where the heroic sacrifice part is just a formality to get to the credit sequence.
Ugh I don't understand the obsession with Shepard being forever in mass effect games. Poor girl/boy needs some REST. I'd feel kinda bad having to keep playing her after the Reaper War. With Destroy EC lord knows how long she has to be hospitalized to recover from all of that. And Garrus said they'd retire to someplace warm and tropical after the war lol. Seriously though, Shep has achieved the most impossible of impossible deeds. Why would you want to play a game where Shepard is doing something remotely less grandiose than defeating the Reapers.
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