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[Nefla]

Maclimes wrote...

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

I'd actually like to see a LI who takes charge, who drives the relationship forward, who initiates.

Oh, man, the internet would explode. Remember when Anders even made ONE flirt at the PC? I suspect Bioware will either maintain the "PC initiates romance" status quo, or come up with a way of making it semi-optional. (Such as the player selecting the "heart" icon the first time around, but then the LI pursues the PC going forward.)

The negative reaction was almost exclusively from straight guys who felt uncomfortable having another guy hit on them. I never heard any complaints about Isabella's in your face comments. I would love to have a LI that takes charge and persues the PC. 

[OctagonalSquare]

He/she needs to have a well-written personality. After that, it's all player preference. In DAO, I preferred Leliana over Morrigan because the former was more of a kind, caring soul; whereas the latter was kind of a b¡tch.

[Dave of Canada]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

The heart icon should die in a fire. I hate the heart icon.

I didn't know you were a Tsundere, Sylvius.

[Maclimes]

Nefla wrote...

The negative reaction was almost exclusively from straight guys who felt uncomfortable having another guy hit on them. I never heard any complaints about Isabella's in your face comments. I would love to have a LI that takes charge and persues the PC. 

Oh, I know. I was just pointing out that potential for backlash. Personally, I never had any problem with it.

[x-aizen-x]

i want a girl like morrigan. and by that i mean i want a girl you does anything for power. WHAT DO I WANT? A GIRL WORTH FIGHTING FOOOOORRRR!

[Nefla]

x-aizen-x wrote...

i want a girl like morrigan. and by that i mean i want a girl you does anything for power. WHAT DO I WANT? A GIRL WORTH FIGHTING FOOOOORRRR!

If I were to be a lesbian, the traits I'd look for in a woman would be:

-Paler than the moon
-Eyes that shine like stars
-She needs to laugh at all my jokes
-She needs to adore my battle scars

On second thought, I couldn't care less what she'll wear or what she looks like, it all depends on what she cooks like. She needs to be able to feed my inquisitor beef, chicken, pork, and halla while we adventure. Having a brain and speaking her mind are unnecessary. 

[BraveVesperia]

Someone who would also make a great friend for my character. That's perhaps why Morrigan, Isabela and Zevran are my favourite characters, because the 'romance' aspects are toned down. I feel pretty uncomfortable going through romances that have lots of intense or sentimental moments.

I like Alistair and Leliana as characters, but their romances were too sugary for me. Fenris's romance was too intense and angsty. I did make a special effort for Merrill since she's my favourite, but it had a lot of emotional drama like the Fenris romance, and the cutesyness of Alistair/Leliana.

Over all though, I hope the LIs are diverse in personality and motivation in DAI.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

The heart icon should die in a fire. I hate the heart icon.

I didn't know you were a Tsundere, Sylvius.

The heart icon makes it more difficult to play without metagaming.

I don't understand the Tsundere connection.

[CybAnt1]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

The heart icon should die in a fire. I hate the heart icon.

It doesn't need to be there as an auto-romance-win feature, but I think I've made my feelings on THAT clear. :innocent:

It should be clear to players what the initiation of flirting is with every character, but after that the constant cupid-hand-holding sucks. Pick the heart and your relationship grows! What an auto-Hallmark moment! 

Imaginary, simulated love should be easier than the hurdles of the real thing, but not ridiculously so. 

[CybAnt1]

I don't understand the Tsundere connection.

Tsundere[/b] (ツンデレ?, pronounced [tsɯndeɽe]) is a Japanese character development process that describes a person who is initially cold and even hostile towards another person before gradually showing his or her warm side over time. (from Wikipedia)

Seems like a JRPG thing. Also appears to be the plot, BTW, of about 90% of Hollywood romantic comedies from the 30s and 40s.

 

[Sylvius the Mad]

CybAnt1 wrote...

(quote from Wikipedia

I found that same article.  I didn't see the relevance.

CybAnt1 wrote...

It doesn't need to be there as an auto-romance-win feature, but I think I've made my feelings on THAT clear. :innocent:

It should be clear to players what the initiation of flirting is with every character, but after that the constant cupid-hand-holding sucks. Pick the heart and your relationship grows! What an auto-Hallmark moment!

I disagree that we should know which line will be interpreted by our target as flirtatious.

If you want to flirt, then flirt, and if you do it in a way that your target doesn't identify as flirting, then you failed at flirting.

All the heart icon did was tell us whether the listener would preceive us as flirting, and I really don't think we should have that information in advance.

[CybAnt1]

All the heart icon did was tell us whether the listener would preceive us as flirting, and I really don't think we should have that information in advance.

Your opponents will insist that they need a tone indicator there to make sure to them as players that a flirt is a flirt, regardless of whether it is then misunderstood or misinterpreted (or ignored) by the recipient. 

And round and round we will go. My only position is, the heart icon - frankly, most tone indicators - don't need to be there constantly. Especially if they function as auto-romance-wins. 

I mean, once you've started flirting with somebody, do you really need a tone marker to tell you that then saying that you'd like to kiss them or that they have great eyes (or WTF else) is ALSO flirting? How unable to read FOR tone have we become?

Modifié par CybAnt1, 03 février 2014 - 10:18 .

[Dabrikishaw]

MKDAWUSS wrote...

They're hard to do once you realize that the person delivering those lines to you is just someone sitting in a studio reading a script. And that someone doesn't even know who you are, let alone have any interest in you.

[AppealToReason]

A butt that won't quit.

[Parmida]

 Someone that is very very very very bossy and pursues Quizzy relentlessly, and at any cost even if he has to fight the other LIs and spill blood.....

[Asdrubael Vect]

Nefla wrote...

x-aizen-x wrote...

i want a girl like morrigan. and by that i mean i want a girl you does anything for power. WHAT DO I WANT? A GIRL WORTH FIGHTING FOOOOORRRR!

If I were to be a lesbian, the traits I'd look for in a woman would be:

-Paler than the moon
-Eyes that shine like stars
-She needs to laugh at all my jokes
-She needs to adore my battle scars

On second thought, I couldn't care less what she'll wear or what she looks like, it all depends on what she cooks like. She needs to be able to feed my inquisitor beef, chicken, pork, and halla while we adventure. Having a brain and speaking her mind are unnecessary. 

you as disney forgot about lotus feets)))

[Tinxa]

CybAnt1 wrote...

I mean, once you've started flirting with somebody, do you really need a tone marker to tell you that then saying that you'd like to kiss them or that they have great eyes (or WTF else) is ALSO flirting? How unable to read FOR tone have we become?

Judging by the amount of people who claimed they ended in bed with Zevran OUT of NOWHERE... very

[Rotward]

Laser vision, and a hot bod.

[Gold Dragon]

Alistair and Lelianna's romances weren't all that bad,

[Asdrubael Vect]

 hmmm the ideal Li for male protag and especially to produce future uber heroes

Morrigan...already occupied and habe a elf-blooded mage uber child and she is still a shem

Meriil..free

Vellana...free

Fiona...free

Avexis dragonborn reaver...possibly free, but Orlais does nor have a mercy so i will not be surprised if she would be Li for females only:D

and we have some good possible dwarven LI

Dagna

Sigrun...Bianka??? we not have much dwarves

for Kossith we have nothing yet

Sareabas Tal-Vashot female kossith, maybe?

Modifié par Dark Korsar, 03 février 2014 - 11:22 .

[rasloveszev]

FOR ME, Anders was a great a love interest because you were put in situations that puts your love to the test. Also, he was fun to be around, not as fun as Zevran and Varric, but still fun.

[Sylvius the Mad]

CybAnt1 wrote...

Your opponents will insist that they need a tone indicator there to make sure to them as players that a flirt is a flirt, regardless of whether it is then misunderstood or misinterpreted (or ignored) by the recipient.

But the player should always know that, because the player is the one who decides whether his character is trying to flirt.

Unless the player presumes that his character can't ever do anything badly, this can't be a problem.

[wright1978]

I loved isabela personally. She both managed to radiate great confidence, strength and independence with a vulnerable inner core.

[xAmilli0n]

I know this isn't specific, but to me, in any game, a good LI is one that is a good, well developed character first. From there, they should be able to fall in love in a way that makes sense for them, and the plot/circumstances of the story. I don't really care about the rest. It just has to make sense.

Thats it, nice and simple. Or not.

[jncicesp]

 Would be really nice to have someone different I still kind of put Isabela, Merrill and Leliana all in the same category.
being important to the main story in some way
...A hope they dont fall for you just cause youre nice to them.

And Someone whos story doesn't end as soon as you romance them.