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#76
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jetblack01 wrote...

 
I just wanted to say that i found the end of ME3 very depressing and have decided that i will not ever buy a game again where the chracter you have been fighting for, to keep him or her alive, is then sort of executed at the end of the game, no matter  your actions, because of "editorial jurisdiction". 

What i think is so weird about the fact they have to kill Shepard from the universe is that it goes against the essence of just about every RPG ever developed, or any game for that matter which is that the fundamental motive for playing is to stay alive, thats why they invented save and load. 

Funny thing is that Biowares attitude re killing the Shepard story is almost an analog of the Space child´s year zero type motivations. It´s like we must destroy the present and all history with it so the next generation can flourish.

In the case of Bioware, its we need to kill shepard so the mass effect universe can continue.

In my last playthrough ending of ME3 i really started thinking the dialogue of space child is explaining ot players why Shepard is about to dissapear, nothing to do with Reapers and all to do with commercialism at EA and Bioware. 

So my promise to any game developer is i will preorder nothing until i hear about the ending and i will not buy any more forced death endings. I dont want a depressing end of my games, there´s enough of that in real life. 



I think this is wise.  While you will be spoiling the ending for yourself, you cant be unpleasantly surprised anymore with a story you are deeply invested in if you know what's coming at the end.  Furthermore, if you are the type of person who doesn't care about spoilers, then that's even better.

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wolfsite wrote...

jetblack01 wrote...

Valhart wrote...

You haven't played a lot of RPGs I take it?

What a silly flippant remark. I´ve been playing pc games since 86 which sort of shows my age. Please name all those RPGs you claim kill the main character at end of game?




Not all RPG's but


Chrono Trigger
Fallout 3 (before DLC)
Dragon Age: Origins (Though you can choose)
Fire Emblem: Awakening (Choice)
Red Dead Redemption
Star Wars: The Force Unleashed
God of War 3
Heavy Rain
Lufia 2: Rise of the Sinistrels
Persona series
InFamous 2


One RPG where it happens is Final Fantasy X (before X-2 ruined it)

Resistance 2 is another non-RPG where the protag gets smoked.

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Armass81 wrote...

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So i am assuming in the endings where Shep dies the LI actually is shown placing the nameplate next to Anderson?


Yep.


LI or potential LI -- if the LI is on Earth I believe it defaults to Liara or the VS, if present. If you got Liara barbecued by Harbinger and the VS isn't there either (WA or dead), I hear there's some circumstance where the plaque just floats onto the wall. Probably requires BroShep with Cortez dead, since for FemShep Traynor should step in.

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Cthulhu42 wrote...

wolfsite wrote...

jetblack01 wrote...

Valhart wrote...

You haven't played a lot of RPGs I take it?

What a silly flippant remark. I´ve been playing pc games since 86 which sort of shows my age. Please name all those RPGs you claim kill the main character at end of game?




Not all RPG's but


Chrono Trigger
Fallout 3 (before DLC)
Dragon Age: Origins (Though you can choose)
Fire Emblem: Awakening (Choice)
Red Dead Redemption
Star Wars: The Force Unleashed
God of War 3
Heavy Rain
Lufia 2: Rise of the Sinistrels
Persona series
InFamous 2

Not be nitpicky (actually scratch that, I'm totally being nitpicky), but Kratos's fate at the end of GoW3 is intentionally left ambiguous, any of the protagonists in Heavy Rain can survive, and in Infamous 2 Cole can survive.


in addition, Chrono can be saved in Chrono Trigger.

In fact half the items on that list the death of the protagonist is either optional or avoidable.

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Hey, how do you folks feel about RDR? RPG or no? It's got some of the features but not others.

Modifié par AlanC9, 03 février 2014 - 07:08 .


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AlanC9 wrote...

Armass81 wrote...

jetblack01 wrote...
So i am assuming in the endings where Shep dies the LI actually is shown placing the nameplate next to Anderson?


Yep.


LI or potential LI -- if the LI is on Earth I believe it defaults to Liara or the VS, if present. If you got Liara barbecued by Harbinger and the VS isn't there either (WA or dead), I hear there's some circumstance where the plaque just floats onto the wall. Probably requires BroShep with Cortez dead, since for FemShep Traynor should step in.


Doesn't do that for me. I wonder if it does a character rep check? I've gotten Garrus or Traynor hanging up the plate, while LI (Jack or Miranda) are on earth. The only time I got Ash was when it was an import when I had romanced her in ME1 (but broke up).

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I guess it must be a rep check, then. Since I'm usually at max rep with everybody what I'm probably seeing is just whatever order the checks are evaluated in.

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jetblack01 wrote...

Massa FX wrote...

OP: In time you'll recover. ~ 1 year or so from now, you still won't understand the "why" it ended this way, but it'll hurt less.

Welcome to BSN!


Thanks! 


it was sarcastic........

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AresKeith wrote...

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This is friggin pathetic. I have never seen a more pathetic group of people than these ending whiners. It's been 2 years. People need to grow up


Bro, chillax and get a custom avi


I will never turn to the custom side

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KotorEffect3 wrote...

AresKeith wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

This is friggin pathetic. I have never seen a more pathetic group of people than these ending whiners. It's been 2 years. People need to grow up


Bro, chillax and get a custom avi


I will never turn to the custom side


Then chill out with throwing insults, and you say people need to grow up

hypocrisy 

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KotorEffect3 wrote...

I will never turn to the custom side


The ...

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I don't whine about the ending, I whine about the game as a whole. Come at me, Jack's tattoos are a blight.

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Out of curiosity OP when did you finish ME3?

spirosz wrote...

I don't whine about the ending, I whine about the game as a whole. Come at me, Jack's tattoos are a blight.

Whatever you say custom avi bro.

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Tattoos are a blight. And everyone with a custom avi is sending hostile code into BioWare servers, only without it being hostile.

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jetblack01 wrote...

Valhart wrote...

You haven't played a lot of RPGs I take it?

What a silly flippant remark. I´ve been playing pc games since 86 which sort of shows my age. Please name all those RPGs you claim kill the main character at end of game?




I'm not going to name any of them because I'm not going to drop spoilers. There is quite a few RPGs though that have killed main characters and beloved characters just like the Mass Effect series. For you to say that RPGs are only meant to give out happy endings is your opinion not fact.

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Br3ad wrote...

Tattoos are a blight. And everyone with a custom avi is sending hostile code into BioWare servers, only without it being hostile.



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WTF kind of gibberish is this now? Tattoos and custom avatars are bad?

Modifié par StreetMagic, 03 février 2014 - 08:46 .


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Nonsense op.

I'm actually surprised you expected the fight against unbeatable demi-gods to end without Shepards sacrifice. You could have figured that out after the conversation with Sovereign.

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Nonsense op.

I'm actually surprised you expected the fight against unbeatable demi-gods to end without Shepards sacrifice. You could have figured that out after the conversation with Sovereign.


Wait.. Shepard's "sacrifice" is necessary now?

I must've played the game wrong.

Or did I do it right? Hmm.. puzzling.

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StreetMagic wrote...

WTF kind of gibberish is this now? Tattoos and custom avatars are bad?

A blight!

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Br3ad wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

WTF kind of gibberish is this now? Tattoos and custom avatars are bad?

A blight!


I thought just humans in general were a blight?

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StreetMagic wrote...

Robosexual wrote...

Nonsense op.

I'm actually surprised you expected the fight against unbeatable demi-gods to end without Shepards sacrifice. You could have figured that out after the conversation with Sovereign.


Wait.. Shepard's "sacrifice" is necessary now?

I must've played the game wrong.

Or did I do it right? Hmm.. puzzling.



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StreetMagic wrote...

WTF kind of gibberish is this now? Tattoos and custom avatars are bad?


You may have missed that the seriousness leaked out of this thread a few posts back.

But yes. They are objectively bad.

Modifié par AlanC9, 03 février 2014 - 08:54 .


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Robosexual wrote...

Nonsense op.

I'm actually surprised you expected the fight against unbeatable demi-gods to end without Shepards sacrifice. You could have figured that out after the conversation with Sovereign.

We should dress you up in robes and put you in a shrine, because clearly you can predict the future like something from a greek myth.

Modifié par The Night Mammoth, 03 février 2014 - 08:57 .