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[Bob from Accounting]

The docking of the Normady to the Dreadnought isn't a gameplay issue, nice try

 

It applies in this situation, the writers/ level designers really wanted us walking across that tube probably so we could see Rannoch and the battle around it, not out of lore reasons

 

It shouldn't be possible, the geth just happen to leave docking tubes out in the middle of warzones?

 

I didn't say it was gameplay. I said you're entirely wrong. And you are. The idea that "illogical" things should never happen if they don't make sense in lore is foolish. Whether it concerns this particular example or not is irrelevant.

 

I distinctly remember EDI saying something about accessing the dreadnought's docking protocols. So we're not obliged to think they 'left them out in the middle of a warzone.'

[Bob from Accounting]

It'd also be awesome if we had a console and could flip the relevant variables on in other levels. Ah, in another world, where Valve made Mass Effect...

 

If you don't mind the animations being ruined and gameplay being rendered unplayable (since ME doesn't incorporate any kind of jumping system), sure.
 

[wolfhowwl]

Ironically, just going extravehicular and floating from the Normandy to the dreadnaught would've yielded a better view. And made for more interesting gameplay in zero G (see: Crysis).

 

But coding it would've probably been too much work.

 

It'd also be awesome if we had a console and could flip the relevant variables on in other levels. Ah, in another world, where Valve made Mass Effect...

 

Maybe something like this through space cluttered with destroyed Geth and Quarian ships.

[CrutchCricket]

Maybe something like this through space cluttered with destroyed Geth and Quarian ships.

 

That would've been perfect. I didn't mind the spacewalk we got (in terms of gameplay), but that would've been so much cooler.

 

Could've also had a bit of spacewalk on the surface of the dreadnaught when you land. Maybe you can't open the first hatch you come across and must find another.

[Animositisomina]

Because it's fun? Has that idea crossed your mind?

LOL... I'm sorry, but you have trolled much better than this. I'm disappointed, to be honest. Walking across the docking tube is in no way fun. Terrible argument is terrible.

[Steelcan]

David its fun to see how you think people value what you have to say, beyond Xilizhra I can't think of anyone who has ever taken your side in an argument.

[Bob from Accounting]

Steelcan, if people didn't value what I have to say, they wouldn't go to such extraordinary lengths to discredit it.

[Steelcan]

Steelcan, if people didn't value what I have to say, they wouldn't go to such extraordinary lengths to discredit it.

 

You keep telling yourself that David, but at the end of the day I always seem to end up with more support.  Is it because we can't handle your heroism?

[Bob from Accounting]

LOL... I'm sorry, but you have trolled much better than this. I'm disappointed, to be honest. Walking across the docking tube is in no way fun. Terrible argument is terrible.

 

My goodness, are these your reasoning skills at full capacity? Tell me, what reason do you believe the developers included the scene, exactly? Perhaps you're under the impression that they knew it served no purpose, but spent time and money on it nonetheless?

[ImaginaryMatter]

Steelcan, if people didn't value what I have to say, they wouldn't go to such extraordinary lengths to discredit it.

 

People are objecting more to your persona which comes off as condescending and vain. However, given your history it seems like you have not learned this basic lesson.

 

So you can go back to your regular scoffing.

[wolfhowwl]

Well he has to keep up the scoffing or else he'll die from desmugdration.

 

Apparently so.

 

He never did get around to explaining just what he found to be so "ridiculous."

[Steelcan]

Seriously, if you are as reasonable and sensible as you claim, why is it that no one agrees with you?

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Steelcan, if people didn't value what I have to say, they wouldn't go to such extraordinary lengths to discredit it.

 

Now that's just silly.

[ImaginaryMatter]

Apparently so.

 

He never did get around to explaining just what he found to be so "ridiculous."

 

I think he's working on his ability to fight Boggarts.

 

Now that's just silly.

 

Not to mention ridiculous.

[teh DRUMPf!!]

Steelcan, if people didn't value what I have to say, they wouldn't go to such extraordinary lengths to discredit it.

 

Or, they do it because it's fun.

 

Has that idea crossed your mind??

[Steelcan]

Or, they do it because it's fun.

 

Has that idea ever crossed your mind??

I don't think ideas ever leave his mind, he holds onto the same desperate points

[DeinonSlayer]

I don't think ideas ever leave his mind, he holds onto the same desperate points

You will regret your scandalous words!

[Animositisomina]

My goodness, are these your reasoning skills at full capacity?

Your entire argument was "it's fun" and you're questioning my reasoning skills? Again, all I can say is LOL. I guess you aren't quite the legendary troll I imagined. Oh well.

[Steelcan]

Your entire argument was "it's fun" and you're questioning my reasoning skills? Again, all I can say is LOL. I guess you aren't quite the legendary troll I imagined. Oh well.

He was never a real troll, that honor belongs to BirdsallSa

 

 

David and Auld Wulf before him, seem genuine in their beliefs

[DeinonSlayer]

He was never a real troll, that honor belongs to BirdsallSa
 
 
David and Auld Wulf before him, seem genuine in their beliefs

#BenderLaughHarder

[KaiserShep]

Ironically, just going extravehicular and floating from the Normandy to the dreadnaught would've yielded a better view. And made for more interesting gameplay in zero G (see: Crysis).

 

But coding it would've probably been too much work.

 

I think it would have worked just as well to have the team spacewalk along the hull of the ship with anti-gravity boots. You'd sure get a hell of a view without having to code a totally new sequence of gameplay.

[Faerlyte]

My favorite is probably the scene on Mars in ME3 and Liara's explanation to the sudden discovery of plans for a weapon in the Mars archives, "Process of elimination, mixed with a little desperation." 

 

And that is how you answer a question without actually answering the question. Apparently if you're desperate enough you can make plans for a mysterious weapon magically appear. 

 

The VS interrogating Shepard on Mars over the presence of Cerberus was painful too. I wanted to throw them in a canyon. 

[KaiserShep]

The VS interrogating Shepard on Mars over the presence of Cerberus was painful too. I wanted to throw them in a canyon. 

 

I'm just glad I can be short with the VS. I wouldn't have any patience for that kind of nonsense in the middle of a critical mission during a reaper invasion. I never take the option to send the VS away to Hackett, but that's only because by then he/she has already gotten over it.

[Cainhurst Crow]

Them questioning shepard has probably been the smartest thing any character in mass effect has done in a while. "I work with cerberus, only I don't" isn't a good answer and doesn't explain ****, nor does it make the new normandy, edi, the crew, or shepard himself, any more trustworthy in any capacity.

 

Shepard was either dead, or as close to dead as possible, for two years while be worked on by an organization known for their shady operations, human experimentation, unethical abandonment of all restraint or scientific caution, and has confirmed tech implants and experimental medical tech inside of their body, as well as having a revolutionary procedure preformed to bring their biological body back to fully functional. In an age where an artificial or virtual intelligence can have a persons brain patterns copied, stored, and uploaded into a physical body (President Huerta), why don't more people actually question shepard as to whether they actually are shepard? Where is the proof cerberus didn't implant mental of physiological alterations to make shepard more complaint? A ability to basically turn off shepards implants or worse, begin influencing shepard mentally through chemical and neural signal alterations in the brain at key points? Aria is like the only person to do so, and all she did was pretty much a once over using a scanner. That is also not good enough, in my opinion.

 

I don't understand how people don't like the VS questioning shepard, when this one question of whether shepard is really shepard, or is completely free of cerberus interference, has never been addressed or brought up in any serious or in depth capacity?

[SporkFu]

Them questioning shepard has probably been the smartest thing any character in mass effect has done in a while. "I work with cerberus, only I don't" isn't a good answer and doesn't explain ****, nor does it make the new normandy, edi, the crew, or shepard himself, any more trustworthy in any capacity.

 

Shepard was either dead, or as close to dead as possible, for two years while be worked on by an organization known for their shady operations, human experimentation, unethical abandonment of all restraint or scientific caution, and has confirmed tech implants and experimental medical tech inside of their body, as well as having a revolutionary procedure preformed to bring their biological body back to fully functional. In an age where an artificial or virtual intelligence can have a persons brain patterns copied, stored, and uploaded into a physical body (President Huerta), why don't more people actually question shepard as to whether they actually are shepard? Where is the proof cerberus didn't implant mental of physiological alterations to make shepard more complaint? A ability to basically turn off shepards implants or worse, begin influencing shepard mentally through chemical and neural signal alterations in the brain at key points? Aria is like the only person to do so, and all she did was pretty much a once over using a scanner. That is also not good enough, in my opinion.

 

I don't understand how people don't like the VS questioning shepard, when this one question of whether shepard is really shepard, or is completely free of cerberus interference, has never been addressed or brought up in any serious or in depth capacity?

In their first conversation after leaving Lazarus station, doesn't Miranda tell shep that she wanted to implant a control chip, but TIM wouldn't let her so that shep would be shep? If shep were being controlled by Cerberus, do you think we would have been given an option to destroy the collector base, or not send Legion back to Cerberus for study, or to remove Grunt from the tank -- which TIM thought was a bad idea IIRC --  or steal the multi-billion dollar Normandy?

 

The VS should have had more faith in shep on Mars, especially after shep was incarcerated on earth for six months, which they shouldn't have needed James to tell them.