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[AlexMBrennan]

If he was moving fast enough, to maintain orbit or break it, he would be going tremendously fast.

But so is the spaceship - if an astronaut was to step out of the ISS airlock and let go, he wouldn't instantly plummet back to Earth. If there was an explosion, he'd be moving away from the station at his speed the impact on the actual orbit would be pretty small.

And thing is that space is pretty big so the odds of the Normandy coming out of FTL and evasive manouvers on a trajectory that would hit a planet is pretty slim.

[Iakus]

Shadrach 88 wrote...

As ImaginaryMatter stated earlier, my main problem with Lazarus isn't its implausibility from a scientific perspective (sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic, yada yada yada). What irked me about it is how it had very little weight in ME2.

Shepard him/herself seems to adjust ridiculously quickly to the fact they've just been resurrected after losing two years of their life, and are quickly thrown into the plot without so much as a breather. The closest we come to Shepard reflecting upon the situation doesn't come until near ME3's conclusion, aboard Cronos station.

As for other characters, no-one seems to be particularly bothered (beyond slight initial surprise) by the walking miracle that is Shepard. I don't know about you, but if I was confronted by a person who I had believed to be dead for two years only to find them not only alive, but working with an extremist group they had previously violently opposed, I'd be highly skeptical that that person was who they said they were. I never any sense of disbelief from Shepard's former companions, and they seemed all too ready to accept the Commander for who they were within a short period of time.

Instead, most reactions amounted to "Shepard? But you're dead!" "I got better." "Oh, OK then." Like I said: no weight. No impact. This guy/gal has come back from the dead, and yet no-one can manage anything more than mild surprise. It's bizarre, immersion-breaking even. I understand they wanted to take Shepard out of the loop for a few years and clean the slate plot-wise, but it needed to be better handled.

Kinda funny how Agents of SHIELD is handling a Lazarus Project-like return far, far better than Mass Effect ever did.

[Display Name Owner]

If he didn't die and it was just a coma. Part of me wonders why it was decided that he actually had to be dead and not just severely injured, since it wasn't exactly a crucial plot point.

[dreamgazer]

iakus wrote...

Kinda funny how Agents of SHIELD is handling a Lazarus Project-like return far, far better than Mass Effect ever did.

SHIELD's handling of the material hasn't been too good either, though, and so far it's involved bigger hand-waves and theories than ME2 sparked.

[SlottsMachine]

dreamgazer wrote...

iakus wrote...

Kinda funny how Agents of SHIELD is handling a Lazarus Project-like return far, far better than Mass Effect ever did.

SHIELD's handling of the material hasn't been too good either, though, and so far it's involved bigger hand-waves and theories than ME2 sparked.

Classic BSN moment. Brought to you by ESPN. 

[Iakus]

dreamgazer wrote...

iakus wrote...

Kinda funny how Agents of SHIELD is handling a Lazarus Project-like return far, far better than Mass Effect ever did.

SHIELD's handling of the material hasn't been too good either, though, and so far it's involved bigger hand-waves and theories than ME2 sparked.

They've at least acknowledged the mystery.  The mystery which  is still ongoing (season's not over yet after all).  And there are people (both allies and enemies) who are very curious how it was possible.

And it's been acknowledged that that it involved some morally gray acts.

Plus there's a reason why it's blown off at first ("It's a magical place")


With Mass Effect it's justified with vague terms like "resources"  Like they took a big pile of cash, buried Shepard's body in it, and two years later he emerged whole and ready for action.

[Rusty Sandusky]

General Slotts wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

iakus wrote...

Kinda funny how Agents of SHIELD is handling a Lazarus Project-like return far, far better than Mass Effect ever did.

SHIELD's handling of the material hasn't been too good either, though, and so far it's involved bigger hand-waves and theories than ME2 sparked.

Classic BSN moment. Brought to you by ESPN. 

ESPN........
MUST.....RESIST.....URGES.......

[Dubozz]

dreamgazer wrote...

Dubozz wrote...

Thought that resurrection idea was pretty cool.

Why?

[DeinonSlayer]

AlexMBrennan wrote...

If he was moving fast enough, to maintain orbit or break it, he would be going tremendously fast.

But so is the spaceship - if an astronaut was to step out of the ISS airlock and let go, he wouldn't instantly plummet back to Earth. If there was an explosion, he'd be moving away from the station at his speed the impact on the actual orbit would be pretty small.

And thing is that space is pretty big so the odds of the Normandy coming out of FTL and evasive manouvers on a trajectory that would hit a planet is pretty slim.

This post just reminded me of Star Trek Into Darkness. The Enterprise gets shot to hell in close proximity to the moon, and falls to earth in the space of five minutes.





Why, J.J. Abrams? Why do you hate us so much?

Modifié par DeinonSlayer, 06 février 2014 - 01:04 .

[JasonShepard]

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