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[Mystic Twilight 9]

i tried windowed the other day and had the same crash X [

[OneEyeRed]

DemonicArc wrote...

Here's a PhysX Link

http://www.nvidia.co..._9.09.0814.html

Also, anyone tried windowed gameplay? I've been doing it for a bit now and the crash hasn't happened yet.

Thanks Demonic

[SidewinderX143]

Mystic Twilight 9 wrote...

i tried windowed the other day and had the same crash X [

I tried windowed as well, didn't help me either.

[OneEyeRed]

A whole week of countless hours and telephone calls to no avail. I am about to say screw it and screw EA for good. I have had enough and for those running the game just fine find yourselves fortunate as hell.

[Syrellaris]

SidewinderX143 wrote...

Syrellaris wrote...

There is an simple explenation for that really.

The visiontek HD OC 3870 comes with overclocked as a stock. Depending on the brand, some of them slighty overlclock the cards to boost performance. Sapphire, delivers there own stock which is, in most cases not Oced.

A lot of problems in games arise from videocards that are slightly oced. That is why experienced users, sometimes recommend to lower the values of your videocard. Switching for a different card is basicly the same thing.

P.s. I am a builder due to the group specifications, that ive set to builder for the Toolkit and mod community. I do not work for tech support or bioware

So do you think that lowering the clocks on the video card back to ATI's stock will fix this all? I've plaid every other game I own, from TF2 to Empire Total War to Mass Effect with the card at its stock settings (slightly OC'ed). If you think slowing the clocks down will fix it, I might as well give it a shot...

Only try it if you have experience with overclocking really. If you are
not familiar with the pc tot he point of Ocing a cpu or gpu, then dont
try it.

But yeah, it might work. 

[OneEyeRed]

Well I resolved my issues completely with a telephone call to Amazon. Returning this useless piece of crap for a full refund. I am done with EA for good.

[PappaCube]

Windowed mode did not help, but trading my wife's GeCube 3870 for my son's Nvidia GeForce 9500GT worked LOL eat dirt ATI !! or rather GeCube since it's not really ATI's fault that the manufacturers didnt implement the chip properly.

Modifié par PappaCube, 06 novembre 2009 - 06:44 .

[PappaCube]

I repeat its not EA, BioWare, or even ATI's fault that the manufacturers didnt implement their 3870 chip properly. There are 3870's out there (Saphire?) that are working just fine.

[slinkytwf]

Here's the workaround and the problem.



The combo of ATI 3800, multi-core CPUs, and DAO are poison.



I have a Xeon Quad 2.5 and a Diamond 3850. I disabled core affinity for all but processor 0 and it ran for an hour before it locked up (without a black screen!).



I disabled it through the Task Manager via right-click on the open app while I was still on the DAO Options screen.

[slinkytwf]

Oops! Dupe. Sorry.

Modifié par slinkytwf, 06 novembre 2009 - 07:28 .

[slinkytwf]

Double-Oops. I guess I was just THAT happy to be able to post a work-around. PM me if you need hired help as I'm unemployed and EA still couldn't diagnose this simple issue.

Modifié par slinkytwf, 06 novembre 2009 - 07:33 .

[rustyCrVx]

slinkytwf wrote...



Here's the workaround and the problem.

The combo of ATI 3800, multi-core CPUs, and DAO are poison.

I have a Xeon Quad 2.5 and a Diamond 3850. I disabled core affinity for all but processor 0 and it ran for an hour before it locked up (without a black screen!).

I disabled it through the Task Manager via right-click on the open app while I was still on the DAO Options screen.

Already discussed on pages 4 and 5 of the thread. Worked for 1 person that I saw, not for the rest. We mostly crashed eventually.

[Greaser13]

I finally got the cores disabled, Im gonna give it a run and see how far I get. Im worried that as this is a combination issue (Card plus dual core plus game) it might be a while before we see a patch.

[SidewinderX143]

slinkytwf wrote...



Here's the workaround and the problem.

The combo of ATI 3800, multi-core CPUs, and DAO are poison.

I have a Xeon Quad 2.5 and a Diamond 3850. I disabled core affinity for all but processor 0 and it ran for an hour before it locked up (without a black screen!).

I disabled it through the Task Manager via right-click on the open app while I was still on the DAO Options screen.

I tried that as well (Intel E8400 and a 3870), and it didn't work for me.

[Greaser13]

Nope, lasted about 30 seconds. I had heard you could play an hour or so that way.



I gotta say it's ironic the guy who opened the thread were all posting to has said screw it and returned his game.

[RogueDark]

Same tried it only worked about 30 seconds before crash to black screen.

[RogueDark]

Crashed after about 30 seconds for me after I tried it

[RogueDark]

sorry for double post

[Jassper]

If you must buy ATI, or feel personally that ATI is better, then get the expensive one - Going cheap is not always better. As mentioned, this is probably a manufacture issue and not directly an ATI issue. Cheap cards take shortcuts on electronic components that can cause early failures, overheating, and improper voltage/current levels and they don't always implement the firmware properly.



It would be interesting to know what BRANDS of ATI cards are having the problem, not just if it is an ATI chip set.



I learned long ago that cheap vid cards work just fine for general computing use, but for Games, CAD, and other graphical intense programs you need to buy the expensive one. That $299.00 computer "loaded to the max!!" is not always the best choice. in other words, there is a reason why computers that seem to have the exact same specs are hundreds of dollars apart in price.

[Greaser13]

The issue is with several manufactures all in the 3800 series, primarily the 3870 which is over clocked. It also appears that it's worsened by a multi-core processor.

[Aurvan]

I have an ATI card (HD5870) and I haven't crashed once. I have played for a bit with my main, and have Morrigan in my party. But not sure what driver version I have. Where can I see the driver version number?

[Vartap]

I've got an HD4770 with X4 955 cpu. Got pretty frequent crashes, appcrash to be concrete. I just played, and got 2 crashes within 5 minuties. Afterwards I played on and played for about an hour without any crash. Yesterday I had a well a period of 2 hours without crash. It is just really random, at least I don't see a patern in it.

[slikster]

As promised, I'm reporting back after playing a good deal. Rock solid stable, no problems. I am just about to leave Lothering.

Maybe a silly question, but everyone did install directx off of the install disk, right?

For completeness, here are my system specs for those looking for common denominators.

AMD Phenom X4 9950 @ 2.8 GHz
4GB Patriat Viper Series @ 1066
Sapphire 4870x2 @ stock clocks
Catalyst 9.6
Motherboard: M3A79-T Deluxe - (SB750 chipset)
OS: XP 32-bit SP3

Another long shot, test your memory.

http://www.memtest.org/

Modifié par slikster, 06 novembre 2009 - 10:40 .

[DemonicArc]

Jassper wrote...

If you must buy ATI, or feel personally that ATI is better, then get the expensive one - Going cheap is not always better. As mentioned, this is probably a manufacture issue and not directly an ATI issue. Cheap cards take shortcuts on electronic components that can cause early failures, overheating, and improper voltage/current levels and they don't always implement the firmware properly.

It would be interesting to know what BRANDS of ATI cards are having the problem, not just if it is an ATI chip set.

I learned long ago that cheap vid cards work just fine for general computing use, but for Games, CAD, and other graphical intense programs you need to buy the expensive one. That $299.00 computer "loaded to the max!!" is not always the best choice. in other words, there is a reason why computers that seem to have the exact same specs are hundreds of dollars apart in price.

1: Price does not always mean quality.
2: The card people have trouble with is mostly 3870, which, while it is two years old, was manufactured as top of the line Enthusiast level card, while the card does sell now for lower prices, not everyone purchased it now, you are esentially calling every component ever made crap because at some point it will be cheap.


Besides, Price alone is not the only thing that dictates a person's purchase choice, there are other elements which you didn't even consider, size, connection, power requirements, you're generalizing a problem based on something that has nothing to do with it, if this was a mass issue with the hardware level of the 38xx series, at this volume it would have been noticed sooner, Dragon Age is not that visually demanding, More than likely its an issue with the software, either from ATI or from Bioware side, after all, we can't all be cheap bastards with crappy PCs, can we?

Modifié par DemonicArc, 06 novembre 2009 - 10:47 .

[SidewinderX143]

slikster wrote...

As promised, I'm reporting back after playing a good deal. Rock solid stable, no problems. I am just about to leave Lothering.

Maybe a silly question, but everyone did install directx off of the install disk, right?

For completeness, here are my system specs for those looking for common denominators.

AMD Phenom X4 9950 @ 2.8 GHz
4GB Patriat Viper Series @ 1066
Sapphire 4870x2 @ stock clocks
Catalyst 9.6
Motherboard: M3A79-T Deluxe - (SB750 chipset)
OS: XP 32-bit SP3

Another long shot, test your memory.

http://www.memtest.org/

What did you do to get it to work? Or did you never have the problem?