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[DoomsdayDevice]

^ I'd buy that for a dollar.

If only...

[noobcannon]

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

^ I'd buy that for a dollar.

If only...

i like your banner

[AlanC9]

noobcannon wrote...

my theory goes something like this. we'll get 3 games, but instead of them being mass effect 4, 5 ,and 6; they'll be mass effect: control, mass effect: synthesis, and mass effect: destroy. the destroy game will be the last one to come out and WILL have shepard. control and synthesis ones will have a new protagonist after shepard gave into indoctrination

Who'd buy the first two games?

[noobcannon]

AlanC9 wrote...

noobcannon wrote...

my theory goes something like this. we'll get 3 games, but instead of them being mass effect 4, 5 ,and 6; they'll be mass effect: control, mass effect: synthesis, and mass effect: destroy. the destroy game will be the last one to come out and WILL have shepard. control and synthesis ones will have a new protagonist after shepard gave into indoctrination

Who'd buy the first two games?

games could be interchangeable (if that's even the right word for it). think of the three games as 3 missions that can be completed in any order. it's certainly a stretch i know, and probablly not possible, but until we know more i'm reaching.

[AlanC9]

StreetMagic wrote...

If the implications in each was fully realized, I'd do it. Synthesis kind of invokes cyberpunk themes.. Control has "evil overlord" implications (heh.. sorry.. i think you picked control, right?).

I suppose a plurality of my Sheps have picked control, yep, but that ain't the problem. (I'm in no position to argue against a choice going bad; since I'm on record arguing in favor of the DA series canonizing a Dark Ritual-induced disaster, someone would call me out for rank hypocrisy if I tried it.)

The problem is that noobcannon's going full IT here. A Destroy-based continuation can let IT fans pretend their fantasy is true without doing any real damage to the setting, but the other two wouldn't.

Modifié par AlanC9, 06 février 2014 - 06:15 .

[noobcannon]

StreetMagic wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...

noobcannon wrote...

my theory goes something like this. we'll get 3 games, but instead of them being mass effect 4, 5 ,and 6; they'll be mass effect: control, mass effect: synthesis, and mass effect: destroy. the destroy game will be the last one to come out and WILL have shepard. control and synthesis ones will have a new protagonist after shepard gave into indoctrination

Who'd buy the first two games?

If the implications in each was fully realized, I'd do it. Synthesis kind of invokes cyberpunk themes.. Control has "evil overlord" implications (heh.. sorry.. i think you picked control, right?).

i'd love control or synthesis to roll with I.T. the game starts with shepard reuniting with his crew and slaughtering them all.

[SwobyJ]

You 100% sure that the guy in cybernetics is the bad guy?

[SwobyJ]

And I love it. Was going to use it as my wallpaper once, but decided meh. My last post still stands.

Modifié par SwobyJ, 06 février 2014 - 06:45 .

[NeonFlux117]

Nope. Shepard is dead and so is Mass Effect. Best come to terms with that now, rather than latter. The next game will be completely different than the trilogy and will focus heavily on Multiplayer. It will further go down the path that ME3 did with "moar explosions and guns and boom, boom bang bang multiplayer and "dramatic", "cinematic" moments.

Get used to it. This is the new BioWare.

Deal with it.

[BioWareM0d13]

I hope not.

Shepard is one of my favorite video game characters, but his or her story arc wrapped up at the close of ME3. There is no reason to bring the character back. Depending on which ending you chose, either let Shep rest in peace or ride off into the sunset.

It is a big galaxy with plenty of room for more than one hero.

[SwobyJ]

ME3 is the end of Shepard's story.

[GimmeDaGun]

I have to quote myself from another thread, but here it goes:

Shepard got a whole trilogy of his own, his squad got a whole trilogy, the Normandy got a whole trilogy, the reapers,cerberus, the genophage, the geth-quarian conflict, the prothean legacy got a whole trilogy of their own. These conflicts and problems are all solved one way or another, and Shepard and co. fulfilled their roles in the history of the ME-universe. Time to let them go.

It's high time to move on and see the ME-universe from another perspective, with a different main character, with completely new faces, with a new ship (if we have our own ship) and with a new type of conflict (not necessarily a galaxy-wide threat), and of course tons of new explorable planets, places, even species, and lore.

The game can have a few references here and there to the original trilogy, but it should not be a tribute or nostalgia game. It should stand on its own and be memorable for what it has to offer.

Plus, I don't think Bioware would lie about this. Continuing Shepard's story would feel very forced.

Modifié par GimmeDaGun, 06 février 2014 - 07:48 .

[GimmeDaGun]

Br3ad wrote...

Why should we care is a much better question.

Because...well... you post here, you tell me. 

[SwobyJ]

"But it should not be a tribute or nostalgia game."

Entirely sure it won't be.

[shodiswe]

They told us it won't be Shepard. I loved playing as Shepard but I'm ready for something new.

How fun would it be to play Shepard? S/he has an entourage or worshippers the size of a galaxy... It's more fun to play an underdog or someone new who has to work his/her way up.
That's how you create a feeling of accomplishment.
The Citadel DLC should have had enough parading and glory to satisfy people, just imagine a whole game or series of the same.
I loved the Citadel DLC. But there is a risk there could be too much of the good stuff. People just have a hard time to let go.

[shodiswe]

And no, no IT please, there is a reason all IT threads got locked down, it was horrible and it's supporters were very intolerant of other views.


I just want something new.

Modifié par shodiswe, 06 février 2014 - 10:20 .

[SwobyJ]

StreetMagic wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

ME3 is the end of Shepard's story.

Turned out to be a ****ty story that didn't address all of it's elements properly.

That's why it shouldn't be the end just yet. All I'm left with is potential. But it's half-assed.

ME3 is the end of Shepard's story.

That doesn't mean it's the end of the Reapers, or that Shepard can't leave a more lasting effect.

Might not be the kind people expect.

[AlexMBrennan]

my theory goes something like this. we'll get 3 games, but instead of them being mass effect 4, 5 ,and 6; they'll be mass effect: control, mass effect: synthesis, and mass effect: destroy. the destroy game will be the last one to come out and WILL have shepard. control and synthesis ones will have a new protagonist after shepard gave into indoctrination

I don't think any sane person would intentionally set out make a game that two thirds of their potential customers will not buy - sales are mutually exclusive (control fans buy the control version, estroy fans buy destroy, etc) but you still have to pay to have three games made.

[maaaad365]

AlexMBrennan wrote...

my theory goes something like this. we'll get 3 games, but instead of them being mass effect 4, 5 ,and 6; they'll be mass effect: control, mass effect: synthesis, and mass effect: destroy. the destroy game will be the last one to come out and WILL have shepard. control and synthesis ones will have a new protagonist after shepard gave into indoctrination

I don't think any sane person would intentionally set out make a game that two thirds of their potential customers will not buy - sales are mutually exclusive (control fans buy the control version, estroy fans buy destroy, etc) but you still have to pay to have three games made.

Maybe you can choose your fate at the beginning of the game with 3 options ( the Repaers and Geth are dead, you control the Reapers or Synthesis), that would be awesome.

And for those who criticesed Shepard : Shepard IS Mass Effect , YOU are commander Shepard.

Modifié par maaaad365, 06 février 2014 - 11:43 .

[GimmeDaGun]

StreetMagic wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

ME3 is the end of Shepard's story.

Turned out to be a ****ty story that didn't address all of it's elements properly.

That's why it shouldn't be the end just yet. All I'm left with is potential. But it's half-assed.

Do you mean that it's a ****ty story since the game does not show Shepard reuniting with his or her LI at its end? Come on! The story of ME is not about Shepard's romance. It's about the reapers, the genophage, the quarian-geth conflict, the rachni extinction, cerberus etc.. All of these are resolved in one way or another in the game. The game also addresses the stories of your squad properly. Those who die in the game reach a point of resolution in the story itself. Those who remain... well, they live their lives as they did before. Showing how these guys become promoted for what they did and carry on with their lives as heroes, celebrities, soldiers, pizza delivery guys, you name it would not change a thing concerning the story itself. You know they made it, you know that there's a future ahead of them. 

As for Shepard, it's pretty clear also: either he is as dead as dead can be, or his memories and thoughts become one with the Intelligence and the reapers, or lives and has a chance to carry on with his life in what way the individual player sees fit. In the latest case Bioware was wise enough not to railroad Shepard's survival scenario, since they knew that showing a "happily ever after" scene would have taken way too many resources and time, and even then it wouldn't have been able to satisfy everybody's needs. Plus it would have made destroy an even more obvious choice for everybody, taking away the difficulty of choice from the ending. So instead they gave us a small hint about Shepard being alive... they let you interpret it and continue the thread of thought in whatever way you like. 

So there you have it: all threads wrapped up. The story ended, no matter how you miss some scenes which would make it complete for you personally. It's impossible to directy continue it. If they do that, it would be the cheapest and least creative fan-service, selling-out way ever. 

Hating the ending for your own reasons as a piece of writing, or art if you like is one thing, but saying that it is not an actual ending or that it does not fulfill its purpose as an ending is something I can't see or agree with. 

Modifié par GimmeDaGun, 06 février 2014 - 01:51 .

[Dr_Extrem]

i have a simple solution for them.

the mass effect universe sells like fresh bread ...
stories centrered around shepard sell like fresh bread ...


i have an interesting proposition, that would make us all happy:


make more games - one with a totally new character and do a shepard reboot (this time without reapers)

everybody would be happy - PLUS .. we would most likely buy both games.


win-win situation


we need more mass effect game ... the more, the better (as long, as the stories are good)