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[SwobyJ]

@Synthesis/cornacopia/stargazer
I think people are mistaking the introduction of an idea for the advocation of it. I'll leave it at that.

@Shepard
Shepard is done. Long live N7.

[themikefest]

Bring Shepard back with ME2 squadmates and have ME1 squadmates reduced to a passing glance.

[DoomsdayDevice]

StreetMagic wrote...

I think people fine with Shepard dead are basically happy with ME3. "I got mine!"

People who aren't have felt screwed since ME3, so they hopelessly wait to see if it can be rectified somehow (I'm one of these pathetic f*cks, if that isn't obvious).

Same here. I can't possibly imagine how Bioware are going to wiggle themselves out of this hole. It seems almost impossible.

Modifié par DoomsdayDevice, 08 février 2014 - 03:11 .

[We'll bang okay]

SwobyJ wrote...

ME3 is the end of Shepard's story.

you would think they would of know it was the end for shepard because we knew long beefore mass effect 3 was the end of shepards story so i knew he whould of died 

[Mcfly616]

Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but if I remember correctly there was a fair amount of hate regarding the treatment of ME1 squadmates(or lack thereof) after ME2 released.

And yet nowadays all the complaints are regarding ME3's lack of ME2 squadmate content, and consequently the bashing of the ME3 squad (which is pretty much the same as the ME1 squad everyone missed so much in ME2)



....weird

[DoomsdayDevice]

I guess many people just wanted the entire gang in ME3. I know I did.

Modifié par DoomsdayDevice, 08 février 2014 - 03:27 .

[Mcfly616]

Douglas n7 wrote...

SwobyJ wrote...

ME3 is the end of Shepard's story.

you would think they would of know it was the end for shepard because we knew long beefore mass effect 3 was the end of shepards story so i knew he whould of died 

yeah, I mean... I guess, supposedly it wasn't a universal vibe everyone got, but hey I never had any illusions as to what was on the line. I feared for Shepard's life ever since the first time I finished ME1. Same way I feared for Master Chief's life before Halo 3 released (and probably the way I'll fear for it again as the Reclaimer Trilogy comes to a close). I knew the stakes . Something about epic works of fiction featuring a savior-like figure against impossible odds, Idk, tends to usually involve mortality and the ultimate sacrifice. 

Modifié par Mcfly616, 08 février 2014 - 03:41 .

[Mcfly616]

Sure it would've been nice. But 18 squadmates? An unrealistic expectation to say the least.

[Locutus_of_BORG]

We could've also hade more big battles with multiple characters and choices involved, such as we had in Virmire and the Collector Base. But no, nothing like in the main game - we had to wait until the Citadel Archives raid.

Modifié par Locutus_of_BORG, 08 février 2014 - 04:16 .

[Sanunes]

StreetMagic wrote...

DoomsdayDevice wrote...

I guess many people just wanted the entire gang in ME3. I know I did.

Exactly. It was the perfect timing for that.. To have it all come to a head in a final epic war.

But no..

Mcfly616 wrote...

Sure it would've been nice. But 18 squadmates? An unrealistic expectation to say the least.

I don't necessarily mean full on squadmates. At the very least, just more presence. A couple token squadmates would've been nice though... just to acknowledge that ME2 ****ing existed.

They managed to show they could do something a little more than "cameos" with Citadel's party, but that kind of
dedication should've been in the actual game. And not in some party. Something better tied into the war atmosphere (like on Earth or something). Something that made them relevant to the whole experience. They impress me with what they can do with 3 substantial DLCs within a year. But I would've preferred something more in the main game.

I honestly believe there would have been more of an appearance of former squadmates if they didn't have the chance of all dying at the end of Mass Effect 2, for just like the horrible appearances during the game they would have to make it so if they weren't alive there was some alternative.

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

ImaginaryMatter wrote...

sH0tgUn jUliA wrote...

They could bring back Shepard with Ryncol Theory.

I don't know what that is but I like the sound of it.

It was in a locked thread. I posted it. It goes a step further than back to the beacon on Eden Prime. ME1 never happened. Shepard was stationed on the SSV Tokyo with Captain Anderson and Kaidan Alenko. They had shore leave. While on shore leave Shepard challenged a Krogan to a drinking contest. The Krogan chose Ryncol and Shepard won.

Shepard woke up in sick bay 72 hours later

Kaidan: Doc, I think she's waking.
Chakwas: How are you feeling Commander?
Shepard: Where am I? The Reapers! The Normandy! I need to see Liara! Anderson's dead! Kaidan? What are you doing here?
Kaidan: Pressley and I had to drag you back here after you drank that Krogan under the table.
Chakwas: That was a dangerous thing you did, Shepard. Ryncol can tear up your insides and cause vivid hallucinations.
Shepard: Wait! What year is it?
Kaidan: Doc?
Chakwas: We'll have to sedate her.
Shepard: No, that won't be necessary. Is this the Tokyo?
Kaidan: Yes, and Captain Anderson is on the bridge. What's this about Reapers? What's the Normandy? And who is this Liara?
Chakwas: It must have been the Ryncol.
Kaidan: I warned her.

Ryncol Theory: Shepard can return. Bioware doesn't have to canonize an ending because they never happened. The Reapers don't exist. The Protheans built the mass relays and The Citadel. 

It also fits Casey's criteria - THAT particular Shepard's story arc (reapers) is over. There is no sequel to that story line. The story starts in 2182 and thus there is no conflict. Now they can sell a game with Shepard, and start an entirely different story. 

Modifié par sH0tgUn jUliA, 08 février 2014 - 05:02 .

[themikefest]

Mcfly616 wrote...

Sure it would've been nice. But 18 squadmates? An unrealistic expectation to say the least.

I agree. That would be overkill.

It would've been nice to have each squadmate for maybe 1 or 2 missions(even side missions) or at the very least put Miranda and Jack on the Normandy since they're LI

When it comes to Priority Earth, have them all with you at the forward operating base and break them down into teams like we had with suicide mission or like in the Citadel Achieves during the Citadel dlc

[Sanunes]

StreetMagic wrote...

Sanunes wrote...



I honestly believe there would have been more of an appearance of former squadmates if they didn't have the chance of all dying at the end of Mass Effect 2, for just like the horrible appearances during the game they would have to make it so if they weren't alive there was some alternative.

I guess even Mac Walters admits a mistake with the amount of deaths there. I think his words were "What were we thinking?"

That said, it doesn't change anything from my perspective. They're the ones that led me on. I'm going to hold it against them. Even if my better side doesn't want to, I can't lie and say I'm OK with it. Maybe I just need to really take a step back for a long while. Because I'm still pissed. The best thing to do may be the wash the whole series out of my head.

Play a series, just so I can forget it.

I never meant to imply you don't have a right to be upset or disappointed with the ending, I was just suggesting why I thought they might not have included the Mass Effect 2 squadmembers in any significant role.

Modifié par Sanunes, 08 février 2014 - 05:21 .

[CronoDragoon]

StreetMagic wrote...

I don't necessarily mean full on squadmates. At the very least, just more presence. A couple token squadmates would've been nice though... just to acknowledge that ME2 ****ing existed.

More presence of ME2 squadmates means less presence of other characters. Your post goes against your previous post that you can only really appreciate a character given copious screentime and exploration. Seems like you just really wanted your favorite characters to have the most screentime. Which is a valid request, but no grounds for criticism.