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[Remix-General Aetius]

I can't help but punch/headbutt her lights out in every single playthrough, it's just the primal reflex response she triggers. Does anyone NOT punch/headbutt her?

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Yes. I don't punch her.

[wizardryforever]

I always do, except in my most Renegade playthroughs.  I admit that it can be tempting to punch her in 1 and 2, but in 3 she is just too distraught for me to ever go for it.  Honestly, I rarely ever punch her in ME2 simply because the charm option you can pick if you ignore the interrupt is just awesome.  Way more satisfying than punching her.  Besides, she becomes a war asset if you don't punch her.  Not a very big one (10 I think), but still.

[Pee Jae]

I charm her in 3, punch her in 1 and 2. I hate to bring up a sore subject, but... I think it would have been a much more interesting dynamic to have her on the Normandy, than Allers. Especially if you punched her in the first 2 games. Over the course of the game, you could have become friends... or more.

Wasted opportunity.

[Remix-General Aetius]

I think if she were on the Normandy, it would trigger Javik's primal instinct to throw her out the airlock.

[shodiswe]

Her way of interviewing "powerful" people at key events and people responsible for decisions made during great disasters or conflicts or scandals is fairly typical. The investigating reporter, askign the tough questions, and yes, it's not fun being on the recieving end of those questions. Yet those questions are often question people want answers for if they wern't there themselves.

The way she handled Andersons interview before the Reaperinvasion was very different but that's because the goal of the interview was different. Anderson didn't make any massive life and death choices that the public is aware of or still wonders about.
Most of what Anderson did was below the radar, very long ago, or very popular.

As a job her job is to get good rating, those are earned by making her broadcasts as interesting as possible. That would have made her a poor reporter choice for the Normandy, though it could have been interesting to see all the situations where she tests your gentle nature as she's stepping out of line to make her storys more interesting.
Her audience were the civilians and family people of the galaxy who want's to know the people in power arn't screwing them over. She's an investigative reporter, working for a major Civilian news agency, with her own show that broadcasts galaxy wide.

Allers was an Alliance News Network propaganda reporter who rides with soldiers and warships.
While not directly controled by the Alliance they still work for the alliance. Minding what's politicaly correct and accepted.(let's not get into who casted for the role, it doesn't really belong in this debate)
Her audience is mainly all the warnutts and rightwing warnerds of the galaxy.
She has a huge Turian, Krogan and an Asari audience on top of the Human one... It shouldn't come as a surprise that this kind of programs are popular among Turians and Krogans.

Punch Al-Jilani and she still gets what she wants for her show. Though it might not be what the Alliance wants. And yeah, you arn't the only hotshot who want's to punch her, just look at all the recordings of people punching or kicking Al'Jilani in the Shadowbroker recordings!

No wonder Al-Jilani picked up selfdefence courses and trained in the Armax Arena, her job could potentialy get dangerous in her line of work.

[SwobyJ]

I never punch her. Paragon charmed.

I don't punch reporters for being a bit annoying.

[von uber]

Actually I've just thought that the violence she suffers is a bit disturbing. An ordinary women is basically assaulted for doing her job (and you are encouraged to do so). There is no arguable greater good or punishment for misdeeds aspect.
I know it's 'only a game' but that argument doesn't stand up to scrutiny.
I think I might charm her from now on.

[SwobyJ]

von uber wrote...

Actually I've just thought that the violence she suffers is a bit disturbing. An ordinary women is basically assaulted for doing her job (and you are encouraged to do so). There is no arguable greater good or punishment for misdeeds aspect.
I know it's 'only a game' but that argument doesn't stand up to scrutiny.
I think I might charm her from now on.

I know often people think that Renegade against her is jarring and inappropriate (despite the laughs about it)...

But I think it's entirely fitting. It's just that it, like most of the weird aspects of the games, needs to be seen from a certain POV (which IMO is akin to Revan 2.0, as a hint; PM if you want more I guess, but I don't want to derail).

You wanna be that ass against Khalisah, then go for it. Just personally I like to try to be better than that.

She's not bad and just prods too much for answers and quick justifications. Only human.

[teh DRUMPf!!]

 Assault is "primal reflex" to you? Okay then.


No, I do not hit her on any serious run. In ME3 I just walk away, even though the Paragon interrupt is clearly the right decision. It's just not something I could have forseen myself to feel honest about taking it.

[KaiserShep]

I always persuade her. Not much point going all Bjork in space on her. Besides, after getting punched out by krogan and kicked in the shins by volus, she kind of deserves a break.

[Rusty Sandusky]

>disingenuously asserting that punching her isn't the best course of action.

[The Don's Hound]

ThisOnesUsername wrote...

>disingenuously asserting that punching her isn't the best course of action.

Of course it isn't you big dumb.

Using her as a meatshield is.

[themikefest]

I've charmed her a few times and punched/headbutt her. I rather have her on the ship than that other one

[von uber]

Yes, it would have been better to get the option to apologise and bring her on board.
The problem with me1/2 is the renegade point farming you have to do which dissuades you from mixing it up in your response.

[General TSAR]

I used her to expand upon my Shep's Human Supremacist ideas, then she turned on Shep.

Shame, she would have been much more welcome on the Normandy than Allers.

[cap and gown]

wizardryforever wrote...

Besides, she becomes a war asset if you don't punch her.  Not a very big one (10 I think), but still.

If you punch her in 2, then paragon her in 3 she is worth 5 points. (She also says "You may be a violent thug, but I'm glad you're on our side.")

If you don't punch her in 2, then paragon her in 3 she is worth 10 points. (She then says "We haven't always seen eye to eye, but I'm glad you're on our side.")

If you punch her in 3 or just walk away without taking the paragon interrupt, she is worth 0 points.

Finally, if you punched her in 2, then Shepard will tell Allers that she/he does not have the best reputation with reporters.

Modifié par cap and gown, 06 février 2014 - 01:23 .

[Excella Gionne]

If you want more assets then don't punch her in any of the games. She'll give you 10, while Allers will give you some if you do interviews.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I have yet to punch her once in all my playthroughs.

[Derpy]

I beat the crap outa her because....

I don't know, its fun.

[FlyingSquirrel]

von uber wrote...

Actually I've just thought that the violence she suffers is a bit disturbing. An ordinary women is basically assaulted for doing her job (and you are encouraged to do so). There is no arguable greater good or punishment for misdeeds aspect.
I know it's 'only a game' but that argument doesn't stand up to scrutiny.
I think I might charm her from now on.

I agree - a Shepard of either gender is logically going to be much physically stronger than a reporter, which makes it petty bullying at best, and MShep punching her is especially distasteful. Some of my Shepards will yell at her or walk off the interview, but punching her feels excessive.

[von uber]

The problem is the game design where you have to farm renegade points whenever you can (even though renegade does not mean an evil petty bully).

[AlanC9]

TheGarden2010 wrote...

I can't help but punch/headbutt her lights out in every single playthrough, it's just the primal reflex response she triggers. Does anyone NOT punch/headbutt her?

Anyone else worry about what this guy gets up to IRL?

[Derpy]

AlanC9 wrote...

TheGarden2010 wrote...

I can't help but punch/headbutt her lights out in every single playthrough, it's just the primal reflex response she triggers. Does anyone NOT punch/headbutt her?

Anyone else worry about what this guy gets up to IRL?

He would make a dang good Krogan if he just got a shotgun.

[Endurium]

I prefer bullrushing her as both paragon and renegade. Punching is only fun in ME3 because she can finally punch back, so there's a bit of a dance going on, but then I reload and bullrush her. Also get a lot more renegade points for bullrushing her as renegade then having Hackett complain about what I said once I'm at the Normandy's galactic navigation console.