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[TEWR]

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[TheBlackBaron]

A wildling woman once told him, "You know everything, Stannis Baratheon."

[Captain Obvious]

lol

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

Despite of this that annoying brat rules!

and for some fun:



I really can't enjoy a book/series that all interesting characters die in it except of one or two and the rest are meh.

[Han Shot First]

[Master Warder Z_]

 Doesn't Stannis toss his claim behind John Snow's once they reach the current moment in the Saga.

Just Curious considering that while i am update to in the series (as far as the books) i have not read the latest in a number of months.

Its just what with every one stating he is still going for the throne (as in to seat himself upon it) It is slightly confusing to my admittedly stale knowledge of current events.

[Han Shot First]

simfamSP wrote...

Doesn't Stannis toss his claim behind John Snow's once they reach the current moment in the Saga.

WHAT?!

He never said that!

I think Jon Snow will probably end up the Iron Throne by series end, but Stannis supports no one being king but himself. The Iron Throne is his by right. Let all true men declare their loyalty.

Jon has made no claim to the Iron Throne yet either. His ambitions don't extended beyond the Night's Watch and protecting the realm from the Others/White Walkers. He also doesn't yet know that he's not Ned Stark's son, but rather Rhaegar Targaryen's son by Ned's sister Lyanna.

Its going to turn out that Ned pretended Jon was his own son to protect the baby from being killed by Robert or his supporters. That was probably the promise Lyanna forced him to make as she lie dying.

[Master Warder Z_]

simfamSP wrote...

Doesn't Stannis toss his claim behind John Snow's once they reach the current moment in the Saga.

WHAT?!

He never said that!

It has been four or so months since i last read it and i knew they were getting really chummy after he became the commander of the black.

Modifié par Master Warder Z , 08 février 2014 - 11:57 .

[Master Warder Z_]

They really should add a delete option like every other forum in existance.

Modifié par Master Warder Z , 08 février 2014 - 11:58 .

[Captain Obvious]

Han Shot First wrote...

simfamSP wrote...

Doesn't Stannis toss his claim behind John Snow's once they reach the current moment in the Saga.

WHAT?!

He never said that!

I think Jon Snow will probably end up the Iron Throne by series end, but Stannis supports no one being king but himself. The Iron Throne is his by right. Let all true men declare their loyalty.

Jon has made no claim to the Iron Throne yet either. His ambitions don't extended beyond the Night's Watch and protecting the realm from the Others/White Walkers. He also doesn't yet know that he's not Ned Stark's son, but rather Rhaegar Targaryen's son by Ned's sister Lyanna.

Its going to turn out that Ned pretended Jon was his own son to protect the baby from being killed by Robert or his supporters. That was probably the promise Lyanna forced him to make as she lie dying.

Just because Jon has Targaryen blood in him does not mean that he's eligible to become King. After all, the Targs lost the right to become King.

[MisterJB]

I approve of this thread! Stannis Baratheon for the Iron Throne!
BTW, are book spoilers acceptable here?

Master Warder Z wrote...
It has been four or so months since i last read it and i knew they were getting really chummy after he became the commander of the black.

Are you referring to when Stannis offered Winterfell to Jon? Which he totally should have taken by the way. Warden of the North, Lord of Winterfell, the most eligible woman in both sides of the Wall plus the honor of serving Stannis Baratheon.

"Without a son of Winterfell to stand beside me, I can only hope to win
the north by battle. That requires stealing a leaf from my brother's
book. Not that Robert ever read one."

Modifié par MisterJB, 09 février 2014 - 01:27 .

[TEWR]

BTW, are book spoilers acceptable here?

First page had a few excerpts from the book, so sure!

Are you referring to when Stannis offered Winterfell to Jon? Which he totally should have taken by the way. Warden of the North, Lord of Winterfell, the most eligible woman in both sides of the Wall plus the honor of serving Stannis Baratheon.

True, Jon could've taken it and maybe should've, but even if he had I doubt it would've turned out well. While he has the blood of the Starks in his veins, he's also a bastard. Bastards are looked down upon in Westerosi society, and I can't imagine the north would've enjoyed a bastard that betrayed his vows to the Night's Watch.

Not saying they wouldn't fight for him. He is a Stark-blooded child after all. He just would probably be looked down upon for it.

Plus, his brothers might've just gone Stabbity stab stab on him earlier. And of course, I doubt Val would've actually let Jon Snow be with her. Wildling culture and all that.

He also doesn't yet know that he's not Ned Stark's son, but rather Rhaegar Targaryen's son by Ned's sister Lyanna.

Hey we don't know that for certain! Although it is incredibly likely, given that what... Lyanna's room smelled of blood and roses yes? How long was Lyanna gone from Rhaegar's "kidnapping"? How long was the war against Aerys?

Just because Jon has Targaryen blood in him does not mean that he's eligible to become King. After all, the Targs lost the right to become King.

Yes, but they still have loyalists in Dorne. Or rather, Dorne is still loyal to the Targaryens.

I'm more convinced that Sansa will be queen, perhaps with Margaery as well (as Sansa's Hand and maybe even lover). Who Sansa will rule alongside with, I dunno. Hopefully not Littlefinger. Maybe Young Griff? Or maybe she'll consider Tyrion, since they are still legally married.

Stannis Baratheon vows to import Gorillas from Essos in order to use them as shock troops against the Lannisters. He will ride a charriot driven by the mighty backs of apes.

Stannis the Mannis is a man after my own heart.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 09 février 2014 - 03:15 .

[MisterJB]

http://www.westeros....FAQ/Entry/2291/

That page sums up quite well all the potential candidates for Jon's parentage along with their possible locations during the timeline of his birth.

[MisterJB]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
True, Jon could've taken it and maybe should've, but even if he had I doubt it would've turned out well.

Well, the answer is obvious. It wouldn't have, nothing ever turns out well in Martin's books.

While he has the blood of the Starks in his veins, he's also a bastard. Bastards are looked down upon in Westerosi society, and I can't imagine the north would've enjoyed a bastard that betrayed his vows to the Night's Watch.

Not saying they wouldn't fight for him. He is a Stark-blooded child after all. He just would probably be looked down upon for it.

True but it would still be a preferable life to Commander of the Watch. It's not like he is above marching to Winterfell with an army of Wildlings despite his claims to neutrality. He should have just taken the North.

Plus, his brothers might've just gone Stabbity stab stab on him earlier.

No reason for them to. He wouldn't have ever been Commander which means he would't have made those decisions that earned him so much animosity and while the Watch beheads traitors, there is no way they would killed Stannis' now most important ally.

And of course, I doubt Val would've actually let Jon Snow be with her. Wildling culture and all that.

Val had already offered herself in marriage to a Southron lord if Stannis spared Mance.
Not that I think he would have but it shows she is not so attached to their customs that she won't break them for the good of her people and being the Lady of Winterfell would place her in the perfect position to aid them.
Plus, she respects Jon.

[Heimdall]

Cap. Obvious wrote...

Just because Jon has Targaryen blood in him does not mean that he's eligible to become King. After all, the Targs lost the right to become King.

Well, we'll see what Dany has to say about that.

[Inquisitor Recon]

Lord Aesir wrote...
Well, we'll see what Dany has to say about that.

I think everybody on Westeros is going to die of old age before she actually shows up to shout "FIERAH AND BLUUUD RAGHUJHHH!!!"

Hopefully everbody will just glare at her funny and she'll sail off to annoy people in Essos some more.

Modifié par Inquisitor Recon, 09 février 2014 - 08:35 .

[Inquisitor Recon]

simfamSP wrote...
Hopefully Emilia Clarke will sails to Gibraltar, she'll get all that 'fire' and 'blood' pumping right.

She'd have to drag the King of the Friendzone Jorah Mormont along though just to ruin things for him some more.

[Master Warder Z_]

Lord Aesir wrote...

Cap. Obvious wrote...

Just because Jon has Targaryen blood in him does not mean that he's eligible to become King. After all, the Targs lost the right to become King.

Well, we'll see what Dany has to say about that.

Not much i'd assume.

She has been rotting across the sea for...as long as i can recall now.

._. The Kingdoms could go through six changes in leadership before she even shows up as a daintly elder Maiden whom most of the world forgot about...Sixty Plus Years ago.

Would be funny.