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[Captain Obvious]

simfamSP wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...

simfamSP wrote...

Cthulhu42 wrote...
I feel the need to point out he's actually killed off as many Lannisters as he has Starks.

SPOILERS!!!

Yeah, but most of them werent actually POV's or main characters aside from Tywin and I.
Unless I'm missing someone. Oh, and Jaime's cousin doesn't count

"I"? Anyway, the ones I was thinking of were Tywin, Joffrey, and Kevan.

The Lannisters are most certainly NOT in a good position. I wouldn't be surprised if there were no Lannisters left by the end of the series.

[Han Shot First]

Tyrion might make it. I think he's going to end up riding one of Khaleesi's dragons.

Tyrion's fascination with the creatures foreshadows it, IMO.

[LPPrince]

I always wondered how I'd feel if at the end of A Dream of Spring, Tyrion reflected back on his life, all the people he's lost, the experiences he's had, etc etc and decides that its time to end it, before flinging himself off a cliff or something.

[Captain Obvious]

simfamSP wrote...

The Lannisters are most certainly NOT in a good position. I wouldn't be surprised if there were no Lannisters left by the end of the series.

With Tywin and me out the way, I suppose their only hope are the three kids. But one's ran off to his doom, the other is an imbecile and the only competent one hinders that with pettiness.

There are actually a lot of Lannisters that I like (as characters). Tyrion, Jaime, Cersei, Genna, Tommen, Tywin, and Kevan. Seriously, the Lannisters are one of my favorite families.

Then there's the Boltons.

And the Baratheons.

And the Greyjoys.

And the Velaryons.

There are a lot of families you'll come to like over the course of the series.

I only wish I knew which family Roddy the Ruin belonged to.

[Captain Obvious]

simfamSP wrote...

Who said I didn't like the Lannisters? One of them is named after me hahah xD

Good ol' Tywin, development Jaime, horny Cersei, humble Kevan and witty Tyrion. The most efficient yet dysfunctional family in Westeros.

You gotta love 'em

Agreed. But enough about the Lannisters.

Is Stannis capable of happiness? Yes or no?

[Master Warder Z_]

Stannis lost a lot attempting to take the Iron Throne the first time, nearly lost his second and most trusted commander only to think he lost him later on.

The Man from what the books revealed is when he has the time a fairly devoted father (for nobles of the realm anyway) So he obviously has feeling even if he hides it beneath a veneer of calm, impassiveness or outright aggression or just being plain content.

But the man is smart, knows the game, knows what emotions cost, what it is to have a weakness and to have it revealed, He likely will be a bit (mind you a bit) more cordial and open with his feelings if he ever does take that blasted seat made of rusted out hulks of melted down scrap.

[Master Warder Z_]

simfamSP wrote...

The Man from what the books revealed is when he has the time a fairly devoted father

I think you're confusing the series with the books. We never see a POV with him and Shireen alone. Though to be honest, I'd like for him to actually be a devoted father, it wouldn't necessarily 'sweeten' him, but instead, add that extra dimension that makes him far more human that what he appears.

Possibly i am fairly deep into the bottle at the moment.

That said i know the series fairly well regardless even if it does impaire thought a bit.

Never the less! Stannis for King!

[Han Shot First]

Master Warder Z wrote...

Never the less! Stannis for King!

The Iron Throne is his by right!

Let all true men declare their loyalty.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 17 février 2014 - 06:03 .

[LPPrince]

Stannis the mannis

[Master Warder Z_]

simfamSP wrote...

You know what? I bet Stannis would hate this fanboy/girlism we have for him xD

This is true for most of the fictional characters that are popular and espeically the antisocial/God Complex one's with huge followings i do believe.

[Captain Obvious]

Gotta say, I was quite disappointed with the fact that the recent trailer for Season 4 portrayed Stannis as some guy trying to get in the history books. The writers really do not know Stannis at all.

[Master Warder Z_]

simfamSP wrote...

Cap. Obvious wrote...

Gotta say, I was quite disappointed with the fact that the recent trailer for Season 4 portrayed Stannis as some guy trying to get in the history books. The writers really do not know Stannis at all.

He is quite a hard character to read. You are never really sure what he feels due to the lack of POV.

Still, the writers have been on and off about Stannis. Like you said they don't understand him at all.

His claim to the throne is because he's a stouch traditionalist and buys into the law of the land.

I doubt he would care about his place in history, His right to the throne is the only solid claim presented thus far if it ever did get out about Lannister incest and its result.

[Master Warder Z_]

wanting proper Acknowledgement and having songs of valor sung about him doesn't seem to fit his ambition or personality to be honest or what i could glean of it. Or perhaps he merely hides that facet of himself behind a mask.

But from his treatment from his men, clearly those who do recognize his history are favored by him more so then people who don't have that knowledge of history; But most of all he seems far to concerned with the state of the kingdom as whole for it to be the sole motivating factor.

Perhaps he does want what's his, That's fair, Perhaps he wants people to acknowledge him like they did his Brother and for him to get his due, That's also fair. But I'd say his motivations are far more then him merely wanting history to remember his name even if that is a portion of the reason.

._. Besides if he loses then no one i like is left standing, so i have to defend his motivations even if they get twisted, warped and etc. Even if he turns out to be a godawful king (unlikely given how experienced in rule he is by the current point)

[Master Warder Z_]

Zeus and Hades as Robert and Stannis rofl.