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[Xilizhra]

Personally H?

 

I think the only elven state we will ever see will be remiencent of Dol Blathanna otherwise known as the valley of flowers in the Witcher.

 

It's an elven puppet state under the Empire of Nifgaard. It was given to them for their service to the Empire during their initial invasion of the nothern kingdoms. It has its own Monarchy, elven rulers, land holders and everything, but ultimately it exists as a vassal to the Empire and Emperor.

 

I could see something similar occuring for the Dalish if they actually ever wised up and joined their hand with Humanities.

The city elves are all too familiar with human charity by this point. I doubt any number of elves would be foolish enough to accept your offer.

[The Elder King]

If The Masked Empire goes in some gratuitously destructive direction with this as so many other lesbian relationships have in most forms of media, and in literally all of them for Dragon Age, I will be... extremely, burningly peeved.
 

Sorry, I don't follow. I know you're referring to the relationship between Celene and Briala, but I don't see the connection with my post.

Personally H?
 
I think the only elven state we will ever see will be remiencent of Dol Blathanna otherwise known as the valley of flowers in the Witcher.
 
It's an elven puppet state under the Empire of Nifgaard. It was given to them for their service to the Empire during their initial invasion of the nothern kingdoms. It has its own Monarchy, elven rulers, land holders and everything, but ultimately it exists as a vassal to the Empire and Emperor.
 
I could see something similar occuring for the Dalish if they actually ever wised up and joined their hand with Humanities.

I know about it. I don't know if it'll happen in DAI. As for now I actually think the elves will get back their old ancestral home (the city of Arlathan), and not the Dales.
We'll see what will happen in DAI.

[Lulupab]

inb4 the elven inquisitor is an ancient elf waking from Unethera (endless dream). 

[BlueMagitek]

inb4 the elven inquisitor is an ancient elf waking from Unethera (endless dream). 

That could actually result in a very unique playthrough. 

[The Elder King]

inb4 the elven inquisitor is an ancient elf waking from Unethera (endless dream).

I really doubt it. And there's supposed to be two elven backgrounds anyway.
That said, it'd be interesting.

[EmissaryofLies]

Wait wait wait. How would the elves realistically take back their land? I don't really see it happening without specific PC intervention. 

[Jedi Master of Orion]

Well there's also the fact that it would be pretty hard to explain how he's alive. If ancient elves were immortal he shouldn't wake up and immediately experience the quickening and die? If they weren't immortal then how did he survive that long at all?

[XxPrincess(x)ThreatxX]

Personally H?
 
I think the only elven state we will ever see will be remiencent of Dol Blathanna otherwise known as the valley of flowers in the Witcher.
 
It's an elven puppet state under the Empire of Nifgaard. It was given to them for their service to the Empire during their initial invasion of the nothern kingdoms. It has its own Monarchy, elven rulers, land holders and everything, but ultimately it exists as a vassal to the Empire and Emperor.
 
I could see something similar occuring for the Dalish if they actually ever wised up and joined their hand with Humanities.

I doubt the dalish would willingly join with humanity, they believe too strongly in the "humans took our immortality" myth to ever fully integrate.

[The Elder King]

Wait wait wait. How would the elves realistically take back their land? I don't really see it happening without specific PC intervention.

The elves are rebelling in Orlais, in their old homeland, and might try to take advantage of the civil war. The new book's summary hinted at the dalish having a role too. But yes, it'd likely be a plot in the game.

[Lulupab]

Well there's also the fact that it would be pretty hard to explain how he's alive. If ancient elves were immortal he shouldn't wake up and immediately experience the quickening and die. If they weren't immortal then how did he survive that long at all?

 

They can come up with something like they did with Javik from ME3. Ancient Elves had magic that the Tevinter were jealous of. Surely such ritual to keep someone alive shouldn't be surprising.

 

That said the named elf could be a companion too, not just PC.

[LobselVith8]

Wait wait wait. How would the elves realistically take back their land? I don't really see it happening without specific PC intervention. 

 

It's been brought up in the past due to the rumors of an elven rebellion in Asunder, the news that an Arlathvenn might be taking place in the Dales, and news about the Masked Empire involving the elves in it's plot. It's mostly speculation at this point.

[BlueMagitek]

Well there's also the fact that it would be pretty hard to explain how he's alive. If ancient elves were immortal he shouldn't wake up and immediately experience the quickening and die. If they weren't immortal then how did he survive that long at all?

I mean, it would probably disprove the Quickening and add credence to the Spirit-Bound / Blood Pact means of immortality that a few here have espoused.  Think Zathrian.

[Master Warder Z_]

I know about it. I don't know if it'll happen in DAI. As for now I actually think the elves will get back their old ancestral home (the city of Arlathan), and not the Dales.
We'll see what will happen in DAI.

 

Why would they want that sunken ghost infested ruin? 

 

I think the only possible way an Elven state could survive in DA is with the assistance and protection of a Human Monarchy backing it.

 

The elves don't have the friends, resources or armies to manage, protect and form a kingdom of their own after all.

 

I personally think it could be a boon of service given that the elves are backing Gaspard and while the Dalish are supposedly going to be backing one faction or another in the civil war, we don't know yet if they will fight under the current ruler or Orlais or the man seeking to replace her, I think that its probable that the offer of an Elven Kingdom could be the possible reward for said service under Gaspard.

[Master Warder Z_]

I doubt the dalish would willingly join with humanity, they believe too strongly in the "humans took our immortality" myth to ever fully integrate.

 

The city elves are supposedly marching under a Human lord already, If they serve the future Emperor well it's possible that could be his Boon if he actually pulls off his coup.

[Xilizhra]

Why would they want that sunken ghost infested ruin? 

 

I think the only possible way an Elven state could survive in DA is with the assistance and protection of a Human Monarchy backing it.

 

The elves don't have the friends, resources or armies to manage, protect and form a kingdom of their own after all.

 

I personally think it could be a boon of service given that the elves are backing Gaspard and while the Dalish are supposedly going to be backing one faction or another in the civil war, we don't know yet if they will fight under the current ruler or Orlais or the man seeking to replace her, I think that its probable that the offer of an Elven Kingdom could be the possible reward for said service under Gaspard.

Humans are absolutely untrustworthy in a position of power over elves. The only way this will work is if they're explicitly legally equal, enforced by the Inquisition.

[Master Warder Z_]

The city elves are all too familiar with human charity by this point. I doubt any number of elves would be foolish enough to accept your offer.

 

And yet they fight for Gaspard regardless; I wonder why if not for the possibility of such an offer.

[Master Warder Z_]

Humans are absolutely untrustworthy in a position of power over elves. The only way this will work is if they're explicitly legally equal, enforced by the Inquisition.

 

Nilfgaard made it work, Orlais can as well and in the Witcher the division between races is even starker.

[Xilizhra]

And yet they fight for Gaspard regardless; I wonder why if not for the possibility of such an offer.

Hopefully we can put him under some kind of blood magic spell if we have to side with him.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

The city elves are supposedly marching under a Human lord already, If they serve the future Emperor well it's possible that could be his Boon if he actually pulls off his coup.

If he does, I know which side I'm supporting. Same reason I support Bhelen for King of Orzammar in Origins. Though hopefully Gaspard isn't as bad a Bhelen in other respects.

[LobselVith8]

I doubt the dalish would willingly join with humanity, they believe too strongly in the "humans took our immortality" myth to ever fully integrate.

 

I don't think an alliance is out of the question (since the treaties proved that the Dalish aren't unwilling to fight alongside humans for a common goal), although I think the clashing religious views would be a primary issue.

[Xilizhra]

If he does, I know which side I'm supporting. Same reason I support Bhelen for King of Orzammar in Origins. Though hopefully Gaspard isn't as bad a Bhelen in other respects.

The framing of The Masked Empire is making me strongly suspect that Gaspard will be in the Loghain tier of villainy.

[LobselVith8]

Humans are absolutely untrustworthy in a position of power over elves. The only way this will work is if they're explicitly legally equal, enforced by the Inquisition.

 

Considering how the non-noble Hero of Ferelden's boons failed, I'm not inclined to disagree with the assertion that a royal boon isn't much to put stock in.

[The Elder King]

@Master Warder Z: I doubt that the elven state will be formed based on siding with a particular Orlesian faction, due to the save imports. That makes me wonder on how the whole Orlesian Civil and the elven rebellion will be solved.

[Master Warder Z_]

@Master Warder Z: I doubt that the elven state will be formed based on siding with a particular Orlesian faction, due to the save imports. That makes me wonder on how the whole Orlesian Civil and the elven rebellion will be solved.

 

Considering we have not a clue where the sequels to DAI will take place (given dev hints its possibly the Imperium) I wouldn't right it off for that reasoning just yet considering by the time we actually return to Orlais an elven state could have been formed by either victor either as reward or reimbursement/appeasement  to prevent further uprisings.

[Xilizhra]

Considering we have not a clue where the sequels to DAI will take place (given dev hints its possibly the Imperium) I wouldn't right it off for that reasoning just yet considering by the time we actually return to Orlais an elven state could have been formed by either victor either as reward or reimbursement/appeasement  to prevent further uprisings.

Or, best yet, on its own as an equal. Would you have an actual problem with this?