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[OniGanon]

Really, the Arc Pistol is fine. Its DPS is pretty fair for its rarity and accuracy, and it's pretty well balanced with the other pistols like the Executioner and the Paladin.

[Darth Volus]

OniGanon wrote...

Really, the Arc Pistol is fine. Its DPS is pretty fair for its rarity and accuracy, and it's pretty well balanced with the other pistols like the Executioner and the Paladin.

The Arc Pistol does Executioner damage when charged, can fire up to 10 charged shots and bypasses shieldgate. And the headshot damage is absolutely massive and leaves Paladin in the dust. If you have a stagger power like Overload or Sabotage - it's a turkey shoot and OSK's all the mooks easily.

Arc pistol was insanely overbuffed, just like Talon or Hurricane.

[Kislitsin]

Binary Helix wrote...

Arc pistol was insanely overbuffed, just like Talon or Hurricane.

Talon and Durracane are URs. They do not allow to shoot out of stagger and post-mortem, charge mechanics kinda help to Arc, big time. Durracane doesn't ignore phantom BS-DR. Both require designated weapom platforms to kill mooks as effectively as Arc Pistol...

Though, if the gun rewards aiming and timing it's OP in a good way. Also, charge-mechanics and innate almost-pinpoint accuracy prevent the weapon to be pushed beyond the limits by weapon platforms.

[edit] Pally and Executioner can't hold a candle to Arc or Talon.

Modifié par Kislitsin, 08 février 2014 - 10:23 .

[Darth Volus]

Kislitsin wrote...

Binary Helix wrote...

Arc pistol was insanely overbuffed, just like Talon or Hurricane.

Talon and Durracane are URs. They do not allow to shoot out of stagger and post-mortem, charge mechanics kinda help to Arc, big time. Durracane doesn't ignore phantom BS-DR. Both require designated weapom platforms to kill mooks as effectively as Arc Pistol...

Though, if the gun rewards aiming and timing it's OP in a good way. Also, charge-mechanics and innate almost-pinpoint accuracy prevent the weapon to be pushed beyond the limits by weapon platforms.

[edit] Pally and Executioner can't hold a candle to Arc or Talon.

Paladin is also UR, but Arc is so much better. And Talon is just LOL. And that would be without the 50% shield/barrier modifier. With it it's ridoncilous. I have no idea what Bioware was thinking (more likely not thinking)

[Kislitsin]

Binary Helix wrote...

Paladin is also UR, but Arc is so much better. And Talon is just LOL. And that would be without the 50% shield/barrier modifier. With it it's ridoncilous. I have no idea what Bioware was thinking (more likely not thinking)

I like pally, but it's just... meh

With Talon they thought, I pretty much shure, something like this: "it's a caster weapon, what an idiot would use it on a weapon platfrom instead of Typhoon that we just have [perfectly] balanced or PPR which became much more enjoyable after Geth balance. GI? lol, he is a sniper."

Modifié par Kislitsin, 08 février 2014 - 10:40 .

[OniGanon]

Binary Helix wrote...

The Arc Pistol does Executioner damage when charged, can fire up to 10 charged shots and bypasses shieldgate. And the headshot damage is absolutely massive and leaves Paladin in the dust. If you have a stagger power like Overload or Sabotage - it's a turkey shoot and OSK's all the mooks easily.

Arc Pistol can get around shieldgate and can be used while running and such. The Executioner does slightly more damage, doesn't get hit with Armor DR three times over, has innate piercing, and is much simpler to use since it doesn't deal with that charging BS. They're pretty well balanced. Paladin could probably use a slight buff due to its rarity but it has similar DPS and can shoot twice in the time it takes to charge an Arc shot so if you can get headshots with it, it will perform comparably. Also, Paladin can benefit from ROF increases, which are mostly useless on Arc.

Overload? Don't know why you would mention it. Executioner combines with Overload better than Arc.

[Darth Volus]

OniGanon wrote...

Binary Helix wrote...

The Arc Pistol does Executioner damage when charged, can fire up to 10 charged shots and bypasses shieldgate. And the headshot damage is absolutely massive and leaves Paladin in the dust. If you have a stagger power like Overload or Sabotage - it's a turkey shoot and OSK's all the mooks easily.

Arc Pistol can get around shieldgate and can be used while running and such. The Executioner does slightly more damage, doesn't get hit with Armor DR three times over, has innate piercing, and is much simpler to use since it doesn't deal with that charging BS. They're pretty well balanced. Paladin could probably use a slight buff due to its rarity but it has similar DPS and can shoot twice in the time it takes to charge an Arc shot so if you can get headshots with it, it will perform comparably. Also, Paladin can benefit from ROF increases, which are mostly useless on Arc.

Overload? Don't know why you would mention it. Executioner combines with Overload better than Arc.

Reloading after every shot kills it. And it's a bad type of reload, that doesn't really mesh well with RC. Executioner is okay with Phasic, it's a mini Widow. But Arc doesn't need it and can use any type of ammo.

[OniGanon]

Arc takes 1s between shots. Executioner takes 1.5 or 0.84.

Moreover there's reload hiding.

[Darth Volus]

OniGanon wrote...

Arc takes 1s between shots. Executioner takes 1.5 or 0.84.

Moreover there's reload hiding.

Charged shots... If my charged shot didn't kill instantly, I can spam Arc pistol to finish the enemy off or force it to dodge. Can't do that with Exec. Plus non charged Arc shots are excellent for swarmer patrol, Prime turret and drone killing, forcing Phantoms to flip, marking cloaked Hunters and so on. And I can afford to miss more. Exec shots are expensive.

[megabeast37215]

Binary Helix wrote...

Nerf Talon, nerf Reegar, nerf Hurricane, nerf arc pistol, nerf acolyte

FTFY

[oceandrive]

Bioware needs to buff some of the useless weapons to be useable. Since, there's no more updates, they should make sure that all weapons in ME4 can be used in all difficultlies.

[me0120]

MG Sal wrote...

Bioware needs to buff some of the useless weapons to be useable. Since, there's no more updates, they should make sure that all weapons in ME4 can be used in all difficultlies.

I used a Katana on Platinum and my game didn't explode. Explain yourself.

[d_nought]

As far as OP **** goes, it's up there, but idgaf cuz it's a yellow card and quite frankly having this game totally dominated by URs is lame. It's nice to have rares that can top URs in some situations, not all, just some niche ones. Although despite what I just said, the Wraith is still better. Arc Pistol is better than the Talon on non Vanguard power classes but not as good on accuracy weapons classes, where you're better off using shotguns or the Typhoon, and for other Infiltrators or whatever there's snipers, the Harrier and the PPR.

Next game needs more CSR, more Arc Pistol, more Suppressor, more Graal that isn't **** off host and a dakka dakka AR that isn't almost completely obsoleted by some dicky little SMG.

Modifié par d_nought, 09 février 2014 - 07:08 .