Modifié par Wothen, 11 février 2014 - 04:53 .
Wothen wrote...
Why people assume about the entire qunari society after only seeing their military?About the mage paranoia
Now imagine the following, your main force fights a mageocracy, which have absolutely no restraints in their use of magic
Now tevinter must want to survive and push back the forces so they would have no reason to hold back
Now imagine all the **** that the qunari might see on the frontlines and try to blame them for being paranoid on their side
Not really a retcon, I think. It's meant to be a new practice, very carefully implemented under the wrathful eyes ofte Arvvarad. Even he Qunari can learn from their enemies. Though to be sure, Qunari magical lore is probably nonexistent and I doubt they would want much to do with Tevinter texts. The Saarebas are probably going on gut instinct when they go into battle.Riverdaleswhiteflash wrote...
And even if it is justified, the fact is that that paranoia weakens them militarily because they apparently don't use magic as freely as they otherwise might. (Though Bioware might be trying to work in a retcon of that with the use of magic to conquer Kirkwall during the first Qunari invasion of it.)
Do the Arvaraad fall under the domain of the Arishok or Ariqun? Because if they are part of the Arishok, I could see AriSten possibly making use of Sarebaas warfare, considering how much time he spent among magi users in Ferelden.Lord Aesir wrote...
Not really a retcon, I think. It's meant to be a new practice, very carefully implemented under the wrathful eyes ofte Arvvarad. Even he Qunari can learn from their enemies. Though to be sure, Qunari magical lore is probably nonexistent and I doubt they would want much to do with Tevinter texts. The Saarebas are probably going on gut instinct when they go into battle.Riverdaleswhiteflash wrote...
And even if it is justified, the fact is that that paranoia weakens them militarily because they apparently don't use magic as freely as they otherwise might. (Though Bioware might be trying to work in a retcon of that with the use of magic to conquer Kirkwall during the first Qunari invasion of it.)
I honestly have no idea. If Arvaraad existed before the Saarebas were employed in warfare, I would say the Ariqun. If only after, probably the Arishock. Then again they probably follow the Arishock's orders in the field anyway.eluvianix wrote...
Do the Arvaraad fall under the domain of the Arishok or Ariqun? Because if they are part of the Arishok, I could see AriSten possibly making use of Sarebaas warfare, considering how much time he spent among magi users in Ferelden.Lord Aesir wrote...
Not really a retcon, I think. It's meant to be a new practice, very carefully implemented under the wrathful eyes ofte Arvvarad. Even he Qunari can learn from their enemies. Though to be sure, Qunari magical lore is probably nonexistent and I doubt they would want much to do with Tevinter texts. The Saarebas are probably going on gut instinct when they go into battle.Riverdaleswhiteflash wrote...
And even if it is justified, the fact is that that paranoia weakens them militarily because they apparently don't use magic as freely as they otherwise might. (Though Bioware might be trying to work in a retcon of that with the use of magic to conquer Kirkwall during the first Qunari invasion of it.)
DRTJR wrote...
Do Female Saarebas require female an Arvaraad or does it not matter.
I doubt it would, though whether or not Arvaraad fall under the Ariqun or Arishock may determine whether or not there can be female Arvaraad.DRTJR wrote...
Do Female Saarebas require female an Arvaraad or does it not matter.
The more I read, it looks like they probably fall under the Ariqun.Lord Aesir wrote...
I honestly have no idea. If Arvaraad existed before the Saarebas were employed in warfare, I would say the Ariqun. If only after, probably the Arishock. Then again they probably follow the Arishock's orders in the field anyway.eluvianix wrote...
Do the Arvaraad fall under the domain of the Arishok or Ariqun? Because if they are part of the Arishok, I could see AriSten possibly making use of Sarebaas warfare, considering how much time he spent among magi users in Ferelden.Lord Aesir wrote...
Not really a retcon, I think. It's meant to be a new practice, very carefully implemented under the wrathful eyes ofte Arvvarad. Even he Qunari can learn from their enemies. Though to be sure, Qunari magical lore is probably nonexistent and I doubt they would want much to do with Tevinter texts. The Saarebas are probably going on gut instinct when they go into battle.Riverdaleswhiteflash wrote...
And even if it is justified, the fact is that that paranoia weakens them militarily because they apparently don't use magic as freely as they otherwise might. (Though Bioware might be trying to work in a retcon of that with the use of magic to conquer Kirkwall during the first Qunari invasion of it.)
Maybe. The wiki claims their secondary duty is to hunt Tal Vashoth. So that's Mage minding and heretic hunting, though all Qunari apparently do the latter. Its not really clear.eluvianix wrote...
The more I read, it looks like they probably fall under the Ariqun.
Lord Aesir wrote...
Not really a retcon, I think. It's meant to be a new practice, very carefully implemented under the wrathful eyes ofte Arvvarad. Even he Qunari can learn from their enemies. Though to be sure, Qunari magical lore is probably nonexistent and I doubt they would want much to do with Tevinter texts. The Saarebas are probably going on gut instinct when they go into battle.Riverdaleswhiteflash wrote...
And even if it is justified, the fact is that that paranoia weakens them militarily because they apparently don't use magic as freely as they otherwise might. (Though Bioware might be trying to work in a retcon of that with the use of magic to conquer Kirkwall during the first Qunari invasion of it.)
David Gaider wrote...
A female qunari who is a mage is no longer female. She is saarebas--
a "dangerous thing", not even a person really. So, yes, female qunari
do fight with their magic, but they're considered part of the arvaarad
the same way a sword would be part of the warrior.
Modifié par Wulfram, 11 février 2014 - 09:36 .
Yes, but I meant that it was new in that the Qunari only developed the practice after fighting Thedosian Mages in the aforementioned wars.Riverdaleswhiteflash wrote...
They were doing the same thing during the wars before the Llomeryn Accords, though. After Kirkwall was Tevinter but before it was Orlesian, the Qunari had it. And they took it using magic.
Lord Aesir wrote...
Yes, but I meant that it was new in that the Qunari only developed the practice after fighting Thedosian Mages in the aforementioned wars.Riverdaleswhiteflash wrote...
They were doing the same thing during the wars before the Llomeryn Accords, though. After Kirkwall was Tevinter but before it was Orlesian, the Qunari had it. And they took it using magic.
Starsyn wrote...
Mercedes-Benz wrote...
hhh89 wrote...
@Rassler: the devs confirmed last week that Tevinter will not be a location in DAI.
Could you post a link to that, please?
Here ya go. Mike Laidlaw confirmed it on Feb 6th.
In case you can't click:@BioMarkDarrah @Mike_Laidlaw @dragonage Will we get to explore the Tevinter Imperium?
@fridaymania @BioMarkDarrah @dragonage No. Not in Inquisition. Future? Maybe!
I doubt it. Its not enough to have just have mages in the field, bound and chained as they are,Riverdaleswhiteflash wrote...
Lord Aesir wrote...
Yes, but I meant that it was new in that the Qunari only developed the practice after fighting Thedosian Mages in the aforementioned wars.Riverdaleswhiteflash wrote...
They were doing the same thing during the wars before the Llomeryn Accords, though. After Kirkwall was Tevinter but before it was Orlesian, the Qunari had it. And they took it using magic.
Okay, but my argument was that adding this detail might have been meant to set the stage for a retcon in which the Qunari really use magic to its full potential.
Modifié par Lord Aesir, 15 février 2014 - 08:08 .
KiwiQuiche wrote...
On topic- well, being a 'big grey-skinned horned' Inquisitor will be interesting since everyone will racially assume you're a member of the Qun when you meet them (well, apart from Qunari)
And I wonder if the Qunari will invade in DAI? Seems like that massive Veil tear is everywhere, not just in Fereldan or Orlais, so the Qunari will have their own problems. Since they don't learn about magic- one of the reasons their mages are so weak in comparison to trained ones- they might have problems trying to repel the demonic hoards and the dragons coming out of the wazoo.
So your're predicting that, the qunari, one of the most efficient military forces (if not, the most efficient) in Thedas, who are also the most paranoid when it comes to magic, will be crushed by the veil tears therefore never invade thedas in the near future.TheLittleBird wrote...
I don't think the Qunari will invade. I doubt they'll even think about it when the Veil is being torn all over their lands. My guess we'll see them get crushed under the demonic hordes sooner than that they will invade human lands.
Modifié par Sentinel358, 18 février 2014 - 06:50 .
Sentinel358 wrote...
So your're predicting that, the qunari, one of the most efficient military forces (if not, the most efficient) in Thedas, who are also the most paranoid when it comes to magic, will be crushed by the veil tears therefore never invade thedas in the near future.TheLittleBird wrote...
I don't think the Qunari will invade. I doubt they'll even think about it when the Veil is being torn all over their lands. My guess we'll see them get crushed under the demonic hordes sooner than that they will invade human lands.
1.)No
2.)They crushed teviniter with all their demon minipulation so its not an issue they havent seen before, the fact that they treat sarbasses the way they do is support of their extreme caution and experience with demonic encounters
3.)That would be a MASSIVE missed opportunity of and wasted potential to get rid of such a unique society because of this event which they'll most likely handle better than most nations since theyre unified rather than in Civil War like Orlais or not in constant battles for political power
Oh ok, agreed. On the second point though, is there a reason they wouldnt still have that same power? There hasnt been any major battles to weaken their resources nor has there been a change in their form of running Qunari society so if anything now that they're aware of the nations they face, i'd say they're a bigger threat. Im hoping they go into more detail about whats going on with the Qunari considering that we can now play as oneTheLittleBird wrote...
I'm sorry if I implied something else, but what I meant was that I don't think we'll see a Qunari invasion in Inquisition. I don't think they'll get crushed by the demonic hordes either, but that second option seems more likely than the first. Oh, and who's to say the Qunari still have the power they had when they crushed Tevinter during Inquisition?
Well, no small number of people including myself predict a Qunari invasion as a centerpiece in the next DA, with a Tevinter setting. (Which has several advantages, like not having to deal with too many of the consequences of DAI down south)Sentinel358 wrote...
Oh ok, agreed. On the second point though, is there a reason they wouldnt still have that same power? There hasnt been any major battles to weaken their resources nor has there been a change in their form of running Qunari society so if anything now that they're aware of the nations they face, i'd say they're a bigger threat. Im hoping they go into more detail about whats going on with the Qunari considering that we can now play as oneTheLittleBird wrote...
I'm sorry if I implied something else, but what I meant was that I don't think we'll see a Qunari invasion in Inquisition. I don't think they'll get crushed by the demonic hordes either, but that second option seems more likely than the first. Oh, and who's to say the Qunari still have the power they had when they crushed Tevinter during Inquisition?
Sentinel358 wrote...
Oh ok, agreed. On the second point though, is there a reason they wouldnt still have that same power? There hasnt been any major battles to weaken their resources nor has there been a change in their form of running Qunari society so if anything now that they're aware of the nations they face, i'd say they're a bigger threat. Im hoping they go into more detail about whats going on with the Qunari considering that we can now play as oneTheLittleBird wrote...
I'm sorry if I implied something else, but what I meant was that I don't think we'll see a Qunari invasion in Inquisition. I don't think they'll get crushed by the demonic hordes either, but that second option seems more likely than the first. Oh, and who's to say the Qunari still have the power they had when they crushed Tevinter during Inquisition?
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