The only story i didn't like that much was the Dwarf Noble. My favorite is the Human Noble, and the City Elf.
Why Human noble origin is the best (Spoilers).
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Posté 01 mars 2014 - 12:56
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Posté 01 mars 2014 - 05:05
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The City Elf was my favorite. Don't care what gender you go about it as, although female does make it a tad more satisfying come the finale. Only a tad. Sweet, sweet vengeance.
And come on, "Where's the ***** that bottled me?" That line is great. Just the way he says it. Or at least I thought it was...
And come on, "Where's the ***** that bottled me?" That line is great. Just the way he says it. Or at least I thought it was...
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Posté 01 mars 2014 - 06:25
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The only story i didn't like that much was the Dwarf Noble. My favorite is the Human Noble, and the City Elf.
This. Dwarf Noble was the last one I completed and aside from sticking it to Bhelen and proving my noble didn't kill Trian I found most of the story a complete and utter snoozefest. It has very little connection to the main body of the story, and lacked the 'poor girl makes good' that the Dwarf commoner has at least.
My favorites mirror yours. Human Noble, then City Elf (particularly as a female).
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Posté 02 mars 2014 - 06:54
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I prefer City Elf. It's not the impact on the main storyline but it was a great injustice to face. Plus it is also a very humble origin to lead to greatness. I almost cried when my City Elf died in the end.
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Posté 09 mars 2014 - 04:26
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Human Noble is definitely my favorite. I know that it's arguably the most cliched, but I'm a sucker for those sort of storylines. I also think it's the origin that's best connected to the plot of DAO. But with the eluvians making appearances in both Witch Hunt and DA2, the Dalish origin has become pretty integral, too. I'd rank HN and DE as #1 and #2, personally. My least favorite is probably Dwarf Noble.
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Posté 11 mars 2014 - 11:37
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There is no best. It all comes down to preference.
You happen to like playing humans and the privileged upper class? Good for you.
I personally can't stand playing humans or nobles. I find them insufferably boring and obnoxious.
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Posté 11 mars 2014 - 11:45
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I like the mage origin the best (or Dalish mage if you use the mod for it). They are all great, but I enjoy playing an arcane warrior the most. Male or female.
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Posté 11 mars 2014 - 11:56
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P.S. I don't care if the human noble is tied the most into the main story. Said story is so cliche, simple, and straightforward that I LIKE subverting the formula with more unconventional heroes, side plots, and so on.
Plus, I disagree. I think the City Elf is just as, if not more tied to the central plot as the Human Noble. Just in a different way. You were born and raised in Denerim, so your entire personal quest involves going home and saving your people. (When Eamon praises Denerim for being the "birthplace of Andraste. As stubborn as a Mabari, and just as good to have on your side" etc, my City Elf swelled with pride.) You have just as personal a reason to want to kill Howe since he slaughtered your people in a purge, as well as take down Loghain for selling your people into slavery. You also have the very satisfying "underdog to champion" story of starting off as a lowly dreg of human society before rising above them as their savior. Walking into the Landsmeet as a City Elf who used to clean their castles, only to stand before the nobles of the nation as a person of consequence, who will now take the stage and determine their fate for once... is the most glorious feeling in the world.
To recap: The Entire Landsmeet Endgame IS the City Elf's Personal Quest.
-Eamon waxing poetry about Denerim has peronal significance since only the City Elf was born and raised there.
-Rescuing Anora has personal significance since you get revenge on the noble that slaughtered your people.
-Unrest in the Alienage obviously has personal significance since it's your home and the people your family.
-The Landsmeet has personal significance since you get to depose the man that sold your people into slavery.
-Choosing the next monarch has personal significance since it's your monarch too, AND you can pick someone who'll help your people.
So, yeah. Human Noble is not the "best" in that regard. Not to me.
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Posté 12 mars 2014 - 12:17
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I thought the Human Noble origin was the best for similar reasons. It has the most involvement in the main plot by virtue the origin story being tied up in Loghain's coup, and in settling later conflicts the Human Noble is better suited to play the role of a neutral arbitrator than Dalish or Dwarven characters.
On the flipside however there is little incentive as a Human Noble to spare Loghain. The man is indirectly responsible for the murders of your family and all the hardships your character has gone through in the game, and it is difficult to come up with a plausible reason for sparing him. The Dwarf or Dalish origins work better on a playthrough where you intend to spare Loghain and recruit him into the Wardens. He is still an enemy of course, but its a lot less personal.
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Posté 12 mars 2014 - 01:52
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I thought the Human Noble origin was the best for similar reasons. It has the most involvement in the main plot by virtue the origin story being tied up in Loghain's coup, and in settling later conflicts the Human Noble is better suited to play the role of a neutral arbitrator than Dalish or Dwarven characters.
On the flipside however there is little incentive as a Human Noble to spare Loghain. The man is indirectly responsible for the murders of your family and all the hardships your character has gone through in the game, and it is difficult to come up with a plausible reason for sparing him. The Dwarf or Dalish origins work better on a playthrough where you intend to spare Loghain and recruit him into the Wardens. He is still an enemy of course, but its a lot less personal.
Well he did try to kill you...
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Posté 12 mars 2014 - 01:57
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Well he did try to kill you...
So did Zevran.
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Posté 12 mars 2014 - 02:02
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So did Zevran.
...I usually kill Zevran. 
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Posté 12 mars 2014 - 02:50
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-Rescuing Anora has personal significance since you get revenge on the noble that slaughtered your people.
This would work rather better if you actually learned that he'd slaughtered your people before killing him.
The only thing that drew me into HN was Iona; I feel we genuinely had something, although I never felt quite comfortable about looking to adopt Amethye afterwards on the basis of "I did your mom once," even though she genuinely is an orphan in need of help... but I more or less turned off of the origin altogether after learning that the HN was deliberately written to be racist.
To me, I've found that the city elf has the best story, with the mage being the character I most identify with, and the Dalish having the best tidbits connected to other parts of the universe after Origins itself is over.
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Posté 12 mars 2014 - 03:23
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...but I more or less turned off of the origin altogether after learning that the HN was deliberately written to be racist.
As a Cousland fanboy, I've never noticed that.
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Posté 12 mars 2014 - 03:24
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As a Cousland fanboy, I've never noticed that.
It was stated by one of the writers, I think. Something about being unable to back up the elven cooks when Nan tears into them, primarily.
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Posté 12 mars 2014 - 03:47
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This would work rather better if you actually learned that he'd slaughtered your people before killing him.
Which you can.
Before gathering all the armies, I always try to go home on entering Denerim and learn the gates are locked for a purge, by the orders of Arl Howe. When Eamon calls the Landsmeet and Loghain, Cauthrien and Howe confront him, a City Elf has the option to recognize Howe. "So you're the one responsible for slaughtering my people." His response? Something along the lines of: "When animals bite at their betters, it's their master's job to cull the herd." You can then say something snappy to him ("Oh look, the Teryn has a talking ass" or "I'm going to enjoy killing you"), at which point Cauthrien basically tells you to be quiet ("Quiet, child, your betters are talking" or "You have nerve threatening the arl in public"), and Loghain changes the subject. (Kind of like the Human Noble in this cutscene, only about the Alienage.)
I've never NOT try to go back into the alienage and learn of the purge before Eamon calls the Landsmeet, so I guess it's different if you don't find out?
Either way, you can learn of the slaughter before you learn of the queen being held hostage in Howe's Estate. It's SLAVERY you don't learn about until after Howe's dead, which always frustrates me. However, you do lean that Loghain green-lit it, thus enabling Howe to deal in slave-trading, which is what makes me go for blood. Which reminds me, infiltrating Howe's Estate makes the game feel it's coming full Circle since this is the second time you break into the estate to save an innocent woman from capture, from a corrupt nobleman that caused your people suffering, and then butcher him like the pig he is.
To me, I've found that the city elf has the best story, with the mage being the character I most identify with, and the Dalish having the best tidbits connected to other parts of the universe after Origins itself is over.
Hmm, fair enough.
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Posté 12 mars 2014 - 03:53
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It was stated by one of the writers, I think. Something about being unable to back up the elven cooks when Nan tears into them, primarily.
Yup.
http://kotaku.com/51...gon-age-origins
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Posté 12 mars 2014 - 03:54
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I've never NOT try to go back into the alienage and learn of the purge before Eamon calls the Landsmeet, so I guess it's different if you don't find out?
The total disconnect that elf mages have from any other elves continues to disappoint.
Stupid, stupid decision.
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Posté 12 mars 2014 - 03:55
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It was stated by one of the writers, I think. Something about being unable to back up the elven cooks when Nan tears into them, primarily.
I wouldn't say that is racist necessarily. Classist, perhaps. Would the noble have acted differently if it was human servants in the kitchen being barked at by Nan?
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Posté 12 mars 2014 - 04:09
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I wouldn't say that is racist necessarily. Classist, perhaps. Would the noble have acted differently if it was human servants in the kitchen being barked at by Nan?
Either way, you should have had the option to do so (although I'm fairly sure it was designed as a racial thing).
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Posté 12 mars 2014 - 04:11
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Human Noble is best because it has my favorite option in it, King/Prince Consort
Also it adds a much better dynamic to Arl Howe who otherwise is just kinda there, well City Elf has a bit more but its not personal like it is for HN.
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Posté 12 mars 2014 - 04:13
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Either way, you should have had the option to do so (although I'm fairly sure it was designed as a racial thing).
I'm not too convinced about the racial thing. After all the human noble can then spend the rest of the game being sympathetic to elves.
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Posté 12 mars 2014 - 04:29
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Human Noble is best because it has my favorite option in it, King/Prince Consort
Also it adds a much better dynamic to Arl Howe who otherwise is just kinda there, well City Elf has a bit more but its not personal like it is for HN.
Dude sold my Elder,dad and sister in law to slavers you bet your ass it's personal.
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Posté 12 mars 2014 - 04:32
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Dude sold my Elder,dad and sister in law to slavers you bet your ass it's personal.
yeah, but its not the same as "backstabbed your father who has been his supposed friend, murdered almost your whole family, killed your parents after making them beg for mercy (or something along those lines as per his dialogue when confronted in his estate) and got your family declared as traitors to the crown"
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Posté 12 mars 2014 - 04:36
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yeah, but its not the same as "backstabbed your father who has been his supposed friend, murdered almost your whole family, killed your parents after making them beg for mercy (or something along those lines as per his dialogue when confronted in his estate) and got your family declared as traitors to the crown"
It's still personal just not as personal. 
