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#101
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Have you played the DLC Return to Ostagar? In it, there are 3 letters-2 from Celene to Cailan, one from Eamon to Cailan. The first letter Celene says she'll send in Chevaliers with the Orlesian Wardens, the second letter Eamon says Anora is barren and that he suggests divorcing her, and the 3rd letter has Celene talking about a "permanent Alliance between Orlais and Ferelden" Now what is meant by that is your interpretation, but it could mean a marriage between Celene and Cailan. Take Loghain to Ostagar one time or watch the Youtube video-it's very entertaining.

 

As for Bryce-yeah it's likely theorizing. If there were to be a alliance between Orlais and Ferelden, Bryce would be the one to get involved. You have Marjolaine in Denerim-who's to say she didn't tell Howe about the negotiations. All this is guesswork, but it's at least plausible.It's would take a lot to get Howe to murder his liege lord-but he'd do it if he thought Bryce was a threat to Ferelden. I can definitely see where would think that alliance to be dangerous.

Mike yes I have read the letters and no it does not prove the Cousland were helping Celene. I agree with Riverdaleswhiteflash on this one. One letter is from Celene wanting the marriage. One is from the Erl saying the queen is getting old and he should look for a new bride. One of the letters is offering help against the Blight. Howe has already proven he could lie and even his daughter saw him as an opportunist. I can't give him a pass for his actions.



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Wait someone's justifying Howe? :wacko: Loghain I can kinda get but HOWE?! :blink: 


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#103
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Wait someone's justifying Howe? :wacko: Loghain I can kinda get but HOWE?! :blink: 

Yes, that was rather my reaction.


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#104
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Couslands and Dalish were most boring for me. The origin I played most is male Surana. :) Despised for both being and elf and the mage, torn away from their families when they were kids, forced to live in a prison, never allowed to get out....and suddenly forced to fight for the country and the people who did all this to them. The lack of involvement in the main plot was what I liked about that origin. I could play whatever way I wanted. 


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The problem is that from all we've seen (shamelessly embezzling, throwing Vaughn into the pit, that kind of thing), Howe is exactly the sort who would commit petty treason (ie, killing your lord rather than your king) for no reason other than to near the top of the food chain. He has never shown any degree of morality or hesitance to screw others over. I agree he would do it if there was to be a marriage, or maybe even merely an alliance, but we have no evidence of either apart from this. And on it's own, I don't think it's enough to merit rethinking Howe.

 

As for the letters, I think the "uncharacteristically familiar tone" Celene takes is evidence of her, at least, wanting this marriage. This isn't the proof Loghain certainly seems to view it as, but it is evidence.

The thing is we see the letters TO Cailan.  We haven't seen his replies.  Maybe the fact that he didn't want to wait for Eamon could be seen as evidence that he had no intention of divorcing Anora.


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