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[Mcfly616]

BaladasDemnevanni wrote...

You really need to stop making half-assed arguments like this. Tip for the future: "it's optional" isn't an argument.

In purchasing any product, the customer's goal is satisfaction. If I have to ignore large segments of the game, on which a significant amount of development time was spent, then I'm going to tell the developer either "fix or remove". From a consumer perspective, it's a complete waste of time.

No, I don't need to stop stating the truth. Tip for the future: learn to read and don't base your entire argument on completely optional and worthless content that nobody even said anything about except for you and your bud who brought it up outta left field.

Nobody forced you to go out of your way to go get something nonessential to the game. If you waste your own time doing something you don't like in order to get something you don't even need....well, you have nobody to blame but yourself. But ME2 on the other hand, it forced all of us to do Planet Scanning in order to beat the game. Call me crazy, but if I had the option to NOT do planet scanning and I was here complaining about it, I would slap myself repeatedly.

I'll repeat myself once again (since you seem to ignore anything that would inhibit your pointless argument):

I only ever said ME1's open freedom of approach was better than ME2s forced linearity. If you wanted to b-line straight towards the objective, you had that option in ME1. Others had the option to approach the objective from whatever direction they wanted. Point is, we had the option. ME2 gave us no option. They force us down a linear path to our destination. We have no freedom of approach. It's straight ahead. We are herded cattle. I found ME1's approach better.


Moral of the story: Options are good, forced linearity is bad. Nobody ever said **** about "minerals" (you and your pal seem to be all about it though)

Modifié par Mcfly616, 17 février 2014 - 01:14 .

[Darks1d3]

StreetMagic wrote...

Can't this conversation be nicer? What's the big deal?

lol.. Don't mind me. I'm in a good mood.

...the urge to be a dick is creeping on...must resist......DAMN IT! :happy: That 8 letter word you hate so much is at the tip of my tounge but I...can't...do...it.

[ImaginaryMatter]

StreetMagic wrote...

Can't this conversation be nicer? What's the big deal?

lol.. Don't mind me. I'm in a good mood.

Video game mechanics is no place to start pulling punches.

[Darks1d3]

StreetMagic wrote...

Darks1d3 wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

Can't this conversation be nicer? What's the big deal?

lol.. Don't mind me. I'm in a good mood.

...the urge to be a dick is creeping on...must resist......DAMN IT! :happy: That 8 letter word you hate so much is at the tip of my tounge but I...can't...do...it.

8 letter word? I'm drawing a blank.

Do your worst. Like I said, I'm in a good mood. :innocent:

I'll give you clue, it starts with B and ends with t. Jack and Aria used this word. One last clue "King of the......"

I know, I have a sadistic sense of humor. I can't help it.

EDIT- But since I don't want to ruin your good mood, I'll refrain from using it.

Modifié par Darks1d3, 17 février 2014 - 03:09 .

[Darks1d3]

StreetMagic wrote...

Darks1d3 wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

Darks1d3 wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

Can't this conversation be nicer? What's the big deal?

lol.. Don't mind me. I'm in a good mood.

...the urge to be a dick is creeping on...must resist......DAMN IT! :happy: That 8 letter word you hate so much is at the tip of my tounge but I...can't...do...it.

8 letter word? I'm drawing a blank.

Do your worst. Like I said, I'm in a good mood. :innocent:

I'll give you clue, it starts with B and ends with t. Jack and Aria used this word. One last clue "King of the......"

I know, I have a sadistic sense of humor. I can't help it.

lol.. I was expecting something worse. I don't hate it that much.

It's more of the thought behind it that I hate. I kind of lump it in with autodialogue. The whole trend of the writers seeing Shepard in pretty specific ways. I never got that as much in ME1 and ME2. Aria only made jabs in that way if you took Paragon options with her before.

Ahh, there goes my amusement.

****

[Darks1d3]

StreetMagic wrote...

Darks1d3 wrote...
Ahh, there goes my amusement.

****

I'll spoil it a bit more. In Aria's case, it doubly frustrates me because she calls Bailey a boy scout too. I don't understand why they do this.

Somehow he got a character makeover as well. In ME2, he was only slightly more respectable than Harkin. He had a crew cut and all, but he was no "boy scout". He took bribes, worked with crime bosses, and beat prisoners. As far as I'm concerned, he was worse than some of my Renegade playthroughs.

Just in case I'm coming across as serious, I'm actually not, and I have no interest in pissing you off. I actually like reading your posts.

I still sometimes enjoy being an ass though. Smart assery is practically a tradition in my family.

Modifié par Darks1d3, 17 février 2014 - 03:22 .

[dreamgazer]

BaladasDemnevanni wrote...

CronoDragoon wrote...

Yep, missions. Something ME1 was light on. I'll take corridor missions over riding 5 minutes to pick up some palladium any day.

Agreed.

Semi-related: I'll take hunting down war assets over riding down dogtags, insignias, and most of the other fetch junk in ME1 any day.

[Iakus]

Good thing you don't have to hunt down all those dog tags to trigger a five second breath scene...

[dreamgazer]

iakus wrote...

Good thing you don't have to hunt down all those dog tags to trigger a five second breath scene...

Why yes, the war assets are, indeed, more important and integrated with the story than ME1's filler content.

[TheBlackBaron]

StreetMagic wrote...

You want to know how sad I am..

I'm still holding out on the off-chance that all of those lame side-quests items will matter, and they'll pull another Conrad Verner.. Except with my Turian Insignias.

That'd be really funny if we actually imported from ME3 for ME4 and had another ME1 FLAGCHECK TO THE MAX sidequest. 

'Course, with the assumed platform jumps (ME4 most likely coming out on PC/X1/PS4), we'd have to create the Mass Effect Citadel or something to manage the imports. 

[ImaginaryMatter]

dreamgazer wrote...

BaladasDemnevanni wrote...

CronoDragoon wrote...

Yep, missions. Something ME1 was light on. I'll take corridor missions over riding 5 minutes to pick up some palladium any day.

Agreed.

Semi-related: I'll take hunting down war assets over riding down dogtags, insignias, and most of the other fetch junk in ME1 any day.

I agree, same results, same payoff, only one is a lot shorter.

I'm not a fan of the fetching/gathering in any of the games. For the next one I hope they make such things vibrant and exciting to do, or just discard the whole thing.

[Invisible Man]

i didn't really have an issue with the odd collection quests in me1... mostly cause i found that stuff flying around doing other things.

[AlanC9]

ImaginaryMatter wrote...

I agree, same results, same payoff, only one is a lot shorter.

I'd say the payoff is better in ME2 and ME3. too  Credits aren't really useful in ME1 past the very early game, and if you're after items you might as well just get on with the main quests since it's the same random drop table wherever you go. But the stuff you scan for in ME2 and ME3 is actually useful. (Well, unless you played enough ME3 MP to make finding WA points worthless.)

Modifié par AlanC9, 17 février 2014 - 10:40 .

[Jadebaby]

AnubisEgyptainLordofDeath wrote...

Disappointed

This^

Hate is too strong of a word now. Hate wont change anything nor will insults, pleading, crying, kicking or screaming.

The true hero of the Mass Effect series is Mr Fob. Because at least he used his distaste for the ending to turn it into something constructive with the help of many other modders out there! At least he salvaged what seemed totally lost to even a small fraction of the fan base and helped this series become playable and even enjoyable again to many Mass Effectians out there.

It will always be one of those things that leaves a bad taste in my mouth despite the community's best efforts. But a little suspension of disbelief (less required for the actual ending) and a positive attitude go a long way.

[Oransel]

Jadebaby wrote...

AnubisEgyptainLordofDeath wrote...

Disappointed

This^

Hate is too strong of a word now. Hate wont change anything nor will insults, pleading, crying, kicking or screaming.

The true hero of the Mass Effect series is Mr Fob. Because at least he used his distaste for the ending to turn it into something constructive with the help of many other modders out there! At least he salvaged what seemed totally lost to even a small fraction of the fan base and helped this series become playable and even enjoyable again to many Mass Effectians out there.

It will always be one of those things that leaves a bad taste in my mouth despite the community's best efforts. But a little suspension of disbelief (less required for the actual ending) and a positive attitude go a long way.

Nice to see you! I feel the same. 

[Ranger1337]

Nah, I love the game. Ending could've been more action-packed and involved more of our War Assets but meh. I enjoyed everything else about it. The curing of the Genophage, the end of the Geth-Quarian war and the Citadel DLC, getting to hang out with my former teammates. I'm not gonna hate Mass Effect 3 just cuz the ending did not live up to the hype. In fact I just finished another playthrough a couple of days ago. Teared up when I saw Tali so sad that she was placing Shepard on Normandy's Memorial Wall. That is what makes Mass Effect what it is. Well, mostly.

[Jadebaby]

Oransel wrote...
Nice to see you! I feel the same. 

You too Ora, it's been too long

Modifié par Jadebaby, 17 février 2014 - 04:00 .

[AlanC9]

StreetMagic wrote...

There isn't much room for building different kinds of "War Readiness" setups. By ME3, Shepard is a very cosmopolitan type of character who likes everybody, and builds a big Noah's Ark at the end of the series. The War Assets reflect this. Just scan away and eavesdrop on whoever.. gather all you can. Do it with your eyes closed, if you want. It doesn't matter who they are. That's why it's just one big number. We are all "one". And The Shepard will leads us to our destiny.

I guess this means that Synthesis really is the thematicaly correct ending, then?