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[AlanC9]

Both of these approaches seem almost equally awful to me. But if someone put a gun to my head, I suppose I'd go with iakus' plan B. If we're abolishing stuff, go all the way.

[zed888]

You'd never be able to take a choice in the new game(s) seriously ever again though.

[AlanC9]

Not past the end credits, anyway.

[Mcfly616]

Never understood the people that want a sequel to the trilogy that ignores the end of said trilogy.....


Weirdos

[Reorte]

Mcfly616 wrote...

Never understood the people that want a sequel to the trilogy that ignores the end of said trilogy.....


Weirdos

Never understood why some find that hard to grasp, but if I have to explain there are two reasons. The first is that some things are best forgotten, the other is that it's the only really practical way.

Modifié par Reorte, 23 février 2014 - 10:07 .

[Reorte]

zed888 wrote...

You'd never be able to take a choice in the new game(s) seriously ever again though.

Why not? Tthere's simple practicality - even if everyone agrees your previous games were great it's not practical to have choices continually affecting the next game. It would become completely unmanageable. That's one reason why it's a good idea to make a game with a more limited scope, so you don't end up with a situation where whatever you do will inevitably have a noticeable impact on the future.

[sveners]

Screw it, not getting involved

Modifié par sveners, 23 février 2014 - 10:28 .

[ImaginaryMatter]

Reorte wrote...

zed888 wrote...

You'd never be able to take a choice in the new game(s) seriously ever again though.

Why not? Tthere's simple practicality - even if everyone agrees your previous games were great it's not practical to have choices continually affecting the next game. It would become completely unmanageable. That's one reason why it's a good idea to make a game with a more limited scope, so you don't end up with a situation where whatever you do will inevitably have a noticeable impact on the future.

I agree. ME3 ends with 4 radically different choices. If the next game acknowledges the choices it's going to be minimal so they can avoid making completely different games, if they go this path though they are going to face the same criticism as ME3's incorporation of the ME2 squadmates, the Rachni, War Assets, etc. Either way they will face criticism for using past decisions. All the more reason to just sweep the board and go with a completely different direction and learn from the mistakes made from ME1-ME3.

[Mcfly616]

Reorte wrote...

Mcfly616 wrote...

Never understood the people that want a sequel to the trilogy that ignores the end of said trilogy.....


Weirdos

Never understood why some find that hard to grasp, but if I have to explain there are two reasons. The first is that some things are best forgotten, the other is that it's the only really practical way.

it's hard to grasp that people want a sequel that pretends not to be a sequel. That's not practical in any way whatsoever. It's simply idiotic. You want to have your cake and eat it too. If you think some things are best forgotten, then an Alternate Universe would be the logical approach.

Otherwise, the practical approach would be to tell a story within the timeline they've already created. Well, it certainly makes more sense than "a sequel that continues the legacy of a game it pretends never happened"....

Modifié par Mcfly616, 24 février 2014 - 01:40 .

[KotorEffect3]

I would not want a sequel that does not acknowledge the events of the original trilogy and I don't wanr any altermate timeline crap either.

[Invisible Man]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

I would not want a sequel that does not acknowledge the events of the original trilogy and I don't wanr any altermate timeline crap either.

I guess I'd have to agree. I really don't want an AU, and I really do want to see the results of my shepard's actions. is he/she treated as a coolheaded diplomat, a gun-slinging commando, an insane psycho who still managed to get things done, or just an idiot? or small bits of em all? 

[Iakus]

Mcfly616 wrote...
]it's hard to grasp that people want a sequel that pretends not to be a sequel. That's not practical in any way whatsoever. It's simply idiotic. You want to have your cake and eat it too. If you think some things are best forgotten, then an Alternate Universe would be the logical approach.

Otherwise, the practical approach would be to tell a story within the timeline they've already created. Well, it certainly makes more sense than "a sequel that continues the legacy of a game it pretends never happened"....

It's quite simple to grasp if you ralize that there are people who like the setting, the characters,and even the story, but who think ME3 and the endings in particular drove them all off a cliff.

[Br3admax]

Are we supposed to want games with bad stories but good settings? Have your cake and eat it too. I hate that phrase so much. Who the hell buys cake and doesn't plan to eat it?

[The Heretic of Time]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

I would not want a sequel that does not acknowledge the events of the original trilogy and I don't wanr any altermate timeline crap either.

Alternate timeline would actually be brilliant. It would be a good way for BioWare to start over fresh with a blank slate while keeping the characters and races the fans love so much. Kinda like what Star Trek 2009 did. It was smart and I recommend BioWare to do the same with Mass Effect.

[Stardusk]

I dislike ME more than ME3 and like ME2 most. Never hated it though.

[Derpy]

TES>ME

If they made a ME4 as a Skyrim clone i'd play the crap out of it.

[elrofrost]

I don't play the game for the ending. I play ti for everything else.

[The Heretic of Time]

Nate_Assassin wrote...

TES>ME

If they made a ME4 as a Skyrim clone i'd play the crap out of it.

Meh. TES is boring. It has some nice lore, but the setting is cliche and the main plot in almost all TES games are hella boring.

I can say a lot of negative things about Mass Effect and its plot, but at least it isn't boring.


Also, open-world is overrated, overhyped and overdone.

[CronoDragoon]

Nate_Assassin wrote...

TES>ME

If they made a ME4 as a Skyrim clone i'd play the crap out of it.

Oh heck no. I find TES to be boring, and when it's not boring awful. The only good that comes from those games is created by the modding community.


As for alternate timelines, I have no logical counter to the suggestion, but my personal preference is that AUs cheapen the world and make me care less about what happens in it. It's why BioShock Infinite ultimately fails.

[Iakus]

Oh heck no. I find TES to be boring, and when it's not boring awful. The only good that comes from those games is created by the modding community.


As for alternate timelines, I have no logical counter to the suggestion, but my personal preference is that AUs cheapen the world and make me care less about what happens in it. It's why BioShock Infinite ultimately fails.

My counter to your counter is that ME3 left the galaxy in a state where I don't care what happens next.  So might as well try something new.

[AlanC9]

Sounds like another zero-sum game. One guy doesn't care what happens if it's an AU, another guy will only care if it is an AU.

[durasteel]

Sounds like another zero-sum game. One guy doesn't care what happens if it's an AU, another guy will only care if it is an AU.

 

I think there are some who simply don't believe that anyone at BioWare is willing or able to un-trash the galaxy after ME3. If our friends at Montreal roll out some media showing the galaxy looking interesting, cool, and recognizably Mass Effect as the setting for a sequel, and they hint at an interesting story with cool characters, I doubt very many people will complain that the galaxy isn't the same trash heap it was the last time they saw it. Maybe I'm naive, but I think even the BSN would be basically happy to see that.

[durasteel]

If they made a ME4 as a Skyrim clone i'd play the crap out of it.

 

I wouldn't touch it. The Elder Scrolls games are dead, lifeless, and boring to me. I need characters to give a crap about, and interaction with those characters that makes me give a damn about what's going on in the game.

 

The world is beautifully detailed, but there's nothing in it to care about.

[Fiannawolf]

I still cant bring myself to go past the citadel dlc...ever.