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Short answer, no my biggest beef with ME3 wasn't actually it ending. The only thing that really annoyed me was how streamlined the RPG elements, increased the cheesy action elements, and lack of an epilogue, which the EC has resolved.
I do wish the Reapers had more of a role in ME3, it felt more of a battle between Cerberus than the Reapers. Do I have hope for the next ME, YES, Citadel DLC showed that bioware is capable of making great content. I just hope EA doesn't rush them,

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I don't hate it at all. I like (love, but thats a silly word to use about games) all 3 of them.

There are just certain aspects I dislike about them, without which I think the games would have been better for me (with my subjective tastes).

I still don't like the ending, but my "feelings" about it was never really much more than lukewarm on an anger scale... now it's luke cold on the indiffence scale.

But I'd still recommend the games... Though with disclaimers ;)

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I should also add(forgot to in previous post) in parts of the game, the femshep I was playing, was replaced with a stunt double. I had no control of that shepard doing things that the femshep I played would not do or would do.

Modifié par themikefest, 11 février 2014 - 09:25 .


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themikefest wrote...

I should also add(forgot to in previous post) in parts of the game, the femshep I was playing, was replaced with a stunt double. I had no control of that shepard doing things that the femshep I played would not do or would do.


Did you have this problem in ME2, out of curiosity?

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dreamgazer wrote...

themikefest wrote...

I should also add(forgot to in previous post) in parts of the game, the femshep I was playing, was replaced with a stunt double. I had no control of that shepard doing things that the femshep I played would not do or would do.


Did you have this problem in ME2, out of curiosity?

Not as much as ME3

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dreamgazer wrote...

themikefest wrote...

I should also add(forgot to in previous post) in parts of the game, the femshep I was playing, was replaced with a stunt double. I had no control of that shepard doing things that the femshep I played would not do or would do.


Did you have this problem in ME2, out of curiosity?


To be honest, I really didn't. There really wasn't a time where I wasn't able to have my Shepard do something that I wanted my Shepard to do, or at least visualize them doing as such with the presented actions available.

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On a sidenote, the one way I find enjoyment out of me3 is centering a lot of my experience around EDI and Javik. If I'm going to close out the series, best to do it with a Prothean and an AI. It's only fitting.. I've been running into EDI and Protheans since ME1 anyways (Luna mission and Eden Prime). They are "larger than life" enough to make me feel like they're good replacements for anything I lost from ME2. And in a way, they replace my favorites from ME2 (Legion and Jack. Tech and biotic wise, I mean).

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dreamgazer wrote...

CrutchCricket wrote...

Try going straight from ME2 to ME3 with no pause. If anything the flaws become more glaring, not less. Though you do also appreciate the gameplay improvements more.


Same can be said for ME1 > ME2, if not more so.


Not at all. I in fact noticed a sharp increase in quality from ME1 to ME2.

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MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

CrutchCricket wrote...

Try going straight from ME2 to ME3 with no pause. If anything the flaws become more glaring, not less. Though you do also appreciate the gameplay improvements more.


Same can be said for ME1 > ME2, if not more so.


Not at all. I in fact noticed a sharp increase in quality from ME1 to ME2.


I'll take into account that the "sharp increase in quality" you're mentioning is based solely on Miranda's ass.

Modifié par Argentoid, 11 février 2014 - 09:45 .


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I knew there was a sharp increase the minute I saw Illusive Man in the opening. edit: Although if I recall correctly, Miranda's ass featured there too.

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StreetMagic wrote...

I knew there was a sharp increase the minute I saw Illusive Man in the opening. edit: Although if I recall, Miranda's ass featured there too.


Not to contradict you, Street. But that quality increase went down the hill for me the moment Shepard died and was magically revived by magic juice.

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Argentoid wrote...

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I knew there was a sharp increase the minute I saw Illusive Man in the opening. edit: Although if I recall, Miranda's ass featured there too.


Not to contradict you, Street. But that quality increase went down the hill for me the moment Shepard died and was magically revived by magic juice.


That was bad, I admit. Didn't know what to make of it when I first played. Not a good way to start. I began to forget once I got on Omega. Aria and Archangel were badass (I definitely liked Garrus more at the time). Then Purgatory really won me over. edit: Think I did Zaeed's mission early too. That really impressed me.

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MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

CrutchCricket wrote...

Try going straight from ME2 to ME3 with no pause. If anything the flaws become more glaring, not less. Though you do also appreciate the gameplay improvements more.


Same can be said for ME1 > ME2, if not more so.


Not at all. I in fact noticed a sharp increase in quality from ME1 to ME2.


From the second the protagonist was killed and resurrected (lol) to jump ahead two years, heat clips replaced the overheat mechanism, and  Shepard was railroaded to work alongside Cerberus against the Collectors, it becomes obvious that cohesivenss went straight out the window. "We have dismissed that claim" was the nail in the coffin.

Flaws.  Flaws everywhere. 

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I barely recalled who Cerberus was myself. I think that first import I did was like a lvl 38 ME1 character. lol.. I barely scratched the surface of ME1 the first time around. I grew to appreciate the side missions later.

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StreetMagic wrote...

I barely recalled who Cerberus was myself. I think that first import I did was like a lvl 38 ME1 character. lol.. I barely scratched the surface of ME1 the first time around. I grew to appreciate the side missions later.


It goes worse for me. I never heard of Cerberus in my first ME1 playthrough, so I was like "wut" when I started playing ME2.

Modifié par Argentoid, 11 février 2014 - 10:03 .


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MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

themikefest wrote...

I should also add(forgot to in previous post) in parts of the game, the femshep I was playing, was replaced with a stunt double. I had no control of that shepard doing things that the femshep I played would not do or would do.


Did you have this problem in ME2, out of curiosity?


To be honest, I really didn't. There really wasn't a time where I wasn't able to have my Shepard do something that I wanted my Shepard to do, or at least visualize them doing as such with the presented actions available.


So you wouldn't leave any of your squadmates behind on the Normandy to defend against an attack ... say, from the Collectors? 

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I never hated ME3. There are parts of it that I'm truly disappointed in (the committee, the ending and Kai Leng). There are things other people make a beef about that I think are matters of preference, not bad writing, as such. I can understand streamlining exploration when you're actively at war. And I don't buy the arguments of those who think it should've been plausible for Shepard to be a Space Pirate and fight the Reapers. While I want to see a ME universe version of the Serenity, ME3 wasn't the game for that.

So all in all, it's an above average game that suffers primarily in comparison to the previous two.

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dreamgazer wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

themikefest wrote...

I should also add(forgot to in previous post) in parts of the game, the femshep I was playing, was replaced with a stunt double. I had no control of that shepard doing things that the femshep I played would not do or would do.


Did you have this problem in ME2, out of curiosity?


To be honest, I really didn't. There really wasn't a time where I wasn't able to have my Shepard do something that I wanted my Shepard to do, or at least visualize them doing as such with the presented actions available.


So you wouldn't leave any of your squadmates behind on the Normandy to defend against an attack ... say, from the Collectors? 


That was a massive Idiot Ball moment. No two ways about it. Warning: When you see a cutscene involving Shepard, you are almost always going to see the PC do something there is no way in the universe you would have YOUR character do. 

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While I want to see a ME universe version of the Serenity, ME3 wasn't the game for that.


I think it could've been just as easily implemented. As an alliance with Aria, for example (or maybe giving the player the opportunity to be the one who deposed her to begin with, and setting up a Cerberus faction there.). As much as I don't like Liara's big role, it would've been better implemented in this context. She'd live up more to the Shadow Broker title. And her base is in the Terminus as well.

ME1 could've been the Alliance and Council centric game, ME2 Cerberus, ME3 could've tried to either bridge the gap or bypass them (then slowly accumulating Council and Alliance forces, much like you do with missions in ME3).

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dreamgazer wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

CrutchCricket wrote...

Try going straight from ME2 to ME3 with no pause. If anything the flaws become more glaring, not less. Though you do also appreciate the gameplay improvements more.


Same can be said for ME1 > ME2, if not more so.


Not at all. I in fact noticed a sharp increase in quality from ME1 to ME2.


From the second the protagonist was killed and resurrected (lol) to jump ahead two years, heat clips replaced the overheat mechanism, and  Shepard was railroaded to work alongside Cerberus against the Collectors, it becomes obvious that cohesivenss went straight out the window. "We have dismissed that claim" was the nail in the coffin.

Flaws.  Flaws everywhere. 


In ME3, yes.

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MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

CrutchCricket wrote...

Try going straight from ME2 to ME3 with no pause. If anything the flaws become more glaring, not less. Though you do also appreciate the gameplay improvements more.


Same can be said for ME1 > ME2, if not more so.


Not at all. I in fact noticed a sharp increase in quality from ME1 to ME2.


From the second the protagonist was killed and resurrected (lol) to jump ahead two years, heat clips replaced the overheat mechanism, and  Shepard was railroaded to work alongside Cerberus against the Collectors, it becomes obvious that cohesivenss went straight out the window. "We have dismissed that claim" was the nail in the coffin.

Flaws.  Flaws everywhere. 


In ME3, yes.


In every game

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MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

MassivelyEffective0730 wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

CrutchCricket wrote...

Try going straight from ME2 to ME3 with no pause. If anything the flaws become more glaring, not less. Though you do also appreciate the gameplay improvements more.


Same can be said for ME1 > ME2, if not more so.


Not at all. I in fact noticed a sharp increase in quality from ME1 to ME2.


From the second the protagonist was killed and resurrected (lol) to jump ahead two years, heat clips replaced the overheat mechanism, and  Shepard was railroaded to work alongside Cerberus against the Collectors, it becomes obvious that cohesivenss went straight out the window. "We have dismissed that claim" was the nail in the coffin.

Flaws.  Flaws everywhere. 


In ME3, yes.


In both, actually, starting right out of the starting gate with ME2 and tracking its many narrative stumbles and changes. 

(ME1 has its flaws, too, but that's not really part of the conversation.)

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Flaws in all 3.

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Never hated the game - I do still think It's an atrocious game but I still like ME1 and might play that one again at some point in the future.

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StreetMagic wrote...

RangerSG wrote...

While I want to see a ME universe version of the Serenity, ME3 wasn't the game for that.


I think it could've been just as easily implemented. As an alliance with Aria, for example (or maybe giving the player the opportunity to be the one who deposed her to begin with, and setting up a Cerberus faction there.). As much as I don't like Liara's big role, it would've been better implemented in this context. She'd live up more to the Shadow Broker title. And her base is in the Terminus as well.

ME1 could've been the Alliance and Council centric game, ME2 Cerberus, ME3 could've tried to either bridge the gap or bypass them (then slowly accumulating Council and Alliance forces, much like you do with missions in ME3).


Aria didn't have nearly the resources to build the Crucible. And the Terminus is too fractured to make that kind of investment. So nope. I'm not buying. I want to see that kind of a game. But it wasn't ME3. TBH, I don't think it'll ever happen, for one reason: To do it right, it would have to be a 'very' open galaxy. And that means far too much expense with a voiced protagonist.