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[DarthLaxian]

I havent posted here since Citadel DLC. I had Mass effect out of my head the whole time really, than i read something about the next Mass effect and i started to think, I just replayed all 3 and all DLC over a couple of weeks. My dislike for the ending has greatly recuded, its more like a "meh" to me now and it doesent take away from everything else it had. It got me thinking when stuff like Man of steel rubs me off as well, but in another way.

Man of steel is just boring, it has no soul, no humor or anything on top of the stupidity of many plot devices. The only joke is made at the end of the story, exactly when time wasent for jokes anymore. What i watched was a boring action movie that took itself super seriously in a plot that was forced in so many way and somehow decided it should only not be serious at the ending. It tried too hard to copy The dark knight or Batman begin which are good, but overrated movies but very good nonetheless, they took themselves seriously and yet still had some heart in it, some humour, some purpose and didnt end anti-climaticly with jokes that did not match the rest of the movie.

Now unto my feeling about mass effect complete trilogy, it was good, even the 3rd. The story never took itself more serious than it needed to be, even in the 3rd one. The humour, the light heart, the atmosphere where still present in all 3 games, the ending wasent that far out of place. Yes it was odd and a down grade considering some of the more brilliant moments in the game, but it wasent pure trash, it wasent "totally" out of place. It could have been better, which is not all that wrong or bad.

My old score for ME3 was like a 7 and now with a different state of mind, id say a fairer score from me would be a 8.5. The whole package of the story, some moment of brilliance, strong music, strong scenary, stellar voice acting and until the ending, solid story telling.

Mabye its the kids that grew in the 80s in me, but i need to remind people that sometimes things can be good without being complicated in a story. A good story is just good. Omega DLC and Citadel DLC were both very enjoyable for that very reason, story wise. Its pretty simple stuff, yet done well enough like a good 80s action movie. Theres always room for simple well done story, im hoping this is the way the Next Mass Effect goes. Play to your strong suit bioware, have brilliant moments, have a good blend of humour and serious moments. You might not get a preorder out of me anytime soon, but if you show me you can still deliver this, i might reconsider.

 

Well,

 

I am still disappointed.

 

Firstly of course about being lied to (quote: many different endings, influence on the story (outcome) etc.)

 

Secondly, I dislike that nothing really happened after the fan outcry (no: extended-cut is not "something" to me, it doesn't make it better - it's the same ending only with a longer video...no real fix IMO, same for DLC (Citadel sounds nice, but I am not paying for something that IMO should firstly be in the original game and not after I have been kicked in the metaphorical nuts before!) - I don't have any for this game and I will not buy any!)

 

Thirdly I "hate" that it ruins the story - I can't even play ME1 and 2 (not talking about 3) without thinking of the end...I sometimes play because of the combat (when there is nothing else to do and I am bored out of my skull)

 

So yeah, I am still pissed - but the fire is not burning as hot as after finishing the game for the first time (I have accepted it and moved on - I had to, because the support for "forcing" the ME-Team of Bioware to admit that they went wrong collapsed after the half-hearted extended-cut, sorry people but now I am also disappointed by the fans, most of us accepted the extended cut and even bought DLC after being cheated (at least that's how I feel), which is so wrong to me...vote with your wallet and all that jazz (buying DLC is telling them: All is well - and that's wrong on so many levels...and I am a guy who owns all (except cosmetic ones) DLC for ME1 and 2...weapon packs, story stuff like Zaed and Kasumi etc.).

 

Still, I have given up (can't move "the mountain" alone after all!) and will not pre-order games from the Mass Effect Team of Bioware again (like say a future Mass Effect 4...and I have started to consider Dragon Age: Inquisition as a make or break kind of game (after all: DA2 was not all that great either - still, better then ME3 IMHO)...)

 

greetings LAX

[Iakus]

Well,

 

I am still disappointed.

 

Firstly of course about being lied to (quote: many different endings, influence on the story (outcome) etc.)

 

Secondly, I dislike that nothing really happened after the fan outcry (no: extended-cut is not "something" to me, it doesn't make it better - it's the same ending only with a longer video...no real fix IMO, same for DLC (Citadel sounds nice, but I am not paying for something that IMO should firstly be in the original game and not after I have been kicked in the metaphorical nuts before!) - I don't have any for this game and I will not buy any!)

 

Thirdly I "hate" that it ruins the story - I can't even play ME1 and 2 (not talking about 3) without thinking of the end...I sometimes play because of the combat (when there is nothing else to do and I am bored out of my skull)

 

So yeah, I am still pissed - but the fire is not burning as hot as after finishing the game for the first time (I have accepted it and moved on - I had to, because the support for "forcing" the ME-Team of Bioware to admit that they went wrong collapsed after the half-hearted extended-cut, sorry people but now I am also disappointed by the fans, most of us accepted the extended cut and even bought DLC after being cheated (at least that's how I feel), which is so wrong to me...vote with your wallet and all that jazz (buying DLC is telling them: All is well - and that's wrong on so many levels...and I am a guy who owns all (except cosmetic ones) DLC for ME1 and 2...weapon packs, story stuff like Zaed and Kasumi etc.).

 

Still, I have given up (can't move "the mountain" alone after all!) and will not pre-order games from the Mass Effect Team of Bioware again (like say a future Mass Effect 4...and I have started to consider Dragon Age: Inquisition as a make or break kind of game (after all: DA2 was not all that great either - still, better then ME3 IMHO)...)

 

greetings LAX

 

This is why I don't envy the newcomers to the ME team.

 

They have to earn back the trust the old team squandered.

[Kenshen]

I never hated it but certainly wasn't happy with it.  I did teach me a lesson about buying any game day 1 and that has saved me some $$'s.  I think the biggest complaint I have with ME3 (all ME games actually) is we the fans are not allowed the tools to mod the game ourselfs.  I have no doubts in my mind that those with the talent to mod would have already made the changes that would make ME3 the epic game it should have been.  If BW didn't want to fix it they should have let us do it.

[ImaginaryMatter]

I'm in agreement, at least as far as squadmate deaths go.

 

In my opinion one of the larger mistakes Bioware made with its endings was in having the bitter portion of a bittersweet ending come from galactic civilization collapsing. I think that had a large part do with many players coming away from the original endings feeling like their Shepard hadn't truly won. I think the original endings would have worked better if Shepard instead saves the galactic civilization players had grown attached to over the course of five years and three games, but a couple of the squadmates died in the end run. The bitter portion of the bittersweet ending should have been from casualties amongst the Normandy crew, with the payoff being saving galactic civilization.

 

Of course there were other problems with the endings beyond just that, but I think that was one of the biggest problems with it.

 

If it were up to me the end run would have been all hands on deck (all surviving ME1 through ME3 squad mates) in a ME2 style suicide mission, where some casualties were unavoidable, like Virmire.

 

I sort of feel like that's a problem throughout the game. Shepard can very easily avoid personal casualties which leaves the loss of life feel distant and impersonal for the player (in addition to making the dream sequences feel really out of place); not that the game didn't have these moments but they were at their strongest when they were side content, like walking past people on the Citadel.

[PANTHEON]

Never hated ME3. I like it better than ME2, but neither is as important as ME1.

 

I was pretty surprised at the backlash over the ending. I guess I just loved ME1 the most and already thought the sequels were less magical anyway. Great games, but not the best ever like ME1 is for me. So though I dreaded having an ending come, I didn't really see that as the value of the series or something I could really put weight into predicting or anticipating. I didn't even consider that it might have a lot of variations like everyone else apparently thought it would have. I thought it would be less Terminator beaten-up at the end. Like maybe just more of a fast, sleek intellectual confrontation for Shepard chasing across the stars, instead of people being covered in dirt and explosions. But I wasn't mad. The journey was more like home than ME2 and as a whole, the trilogy served me unforgettably well.

 

I was almost rooting for BioWare to get away with the ending when the backlash started. I really didn't think the comments about them doing a disservice were accurate. It's one of the most thrilling journeys ever made, and they gave it to you.

[Eralrik]

I didn't hate ME3 I enjoyed the ride for the most part, when I first encountered the dream Shepard has I felt somewhat moved by it but Shepard has an extremely strong Will to be shaken by this, sure it was a child we all would feel something towards the loss of a child, but I myself would have been more distraught at the loss of life across the globe.

Second time I saw the dream I felt that Shepard having been around so many Reaper objects was probably in fact partially indoctrinated and was struggling with it and feeling himself wearing down, the comment he made at Huerta Memorial Hospital to Thane after he passed away I got the sense Shepard was making his peace and would be joining Thane soon.

An at the end when the child that had died on Earth in the shuttle and kept appearing in Shepard's dreams suddenly is a Reaper AI in the appearance of the child that's when the ending fell apart for me and that's when I thought and felt that the true ending's had yet to come out. I thought ok Shepard is fighting indoctrination and waging a battle against Harbinger in a lucid dream state after having been knocked unconscious from the Beam hitting the concrete.

 I thought wow BW really knew how to throw in the suspense the choices that were given was to see if the Reapers would win over Shepard's psyche or if Shepard's will would choose destruction and thus Shepard would either wake up Indoctrinated or having chose destroy would have freed himself from Reaper control.

 

 But to find that it was the true ending and not really a true ending because it brings you back to the point of Illusive man's base to fight all over again just made it a hollow and uncalled for move on BW's part, they had a good thing going they could have finished the game with a stellar experience but in the end we continue to talk, debate and find the need and wish to have the fans being able to use mod tools to fix their error's. Because what happens when no one is playing the Co-Op anymore or BW decides it's time to shut the co-op part down how do we finish the game with a higher than 50% readiness rating except by either cheating or fans using mods.

 

I hope that BW has learned it's lesson's from ME3 while making ME4 or whatever they decide to call it.

 

<Raises glass> Here's hoping Bioware's future holds many great an wonderous adventure's yet to be made and that we the fans will be ecstatic to play them and discuss them here.

[Statichands]

I love it. It may not be the complete package like ME2 and it definitely has it's pros and cons but with ME3, the pros outweigh the cons. I prefer the combat because the ai is smarter, the graphics are a tad bit getter, the Citadel DLC is fun and the online is pretty interesting. It's not good how they ended such a great saga and the online coop is slightly annoying because it's all based on luck with all the characters and weapons you buy. 

[MattFini]

Not really. I never hated it, though.

 

I still think the ending is disappointing and anticlimactic. And I have some problems with ME3 that I don't have for the first two, but I still find it largely enjoyable. 

[SwobyJ]

Not really. I never hated it, though.

 

I still think the ending is disappointing and anticlimactic. And I have some problems with ME3 that I don't have for the first two, but I still find it largely enjoyable. 

 

One of my biggest problems with ME3 is that can feel anticlimactic.

 

It's part of why I still think we'll be getting One More Story. But no, not necessarily about Commander Shepard.

[RuthlessGravity]

I feel like the topical question being asked in this thread is akin to playing russian roulette in the dark. Except someone is holding the gun and rapidly pulling the trigger on you for every word you post. 

 

Buuut my half a cent; I enjoyed it for what it was with the included DLC. The end.

[Uncle Jo]

Well no,I never hated the game, just the endings. Now I play  F1. Better for my nerves and my choices do matter. 

[CaIIisto]

90% of ME3 was fine. IMO.

 

I know some are down on the game across the board, but I could live with most things. The opening was a little to 'meh' for me. The ending.....has all been said before.

[Ryriena]

I guess hate ME3 isn't the right word, for me, I extremely dislike it mostly to the larger plot RETCONS. I hate they didn't give me the option for a happier ending and the PR fiasco that went along with the event. I do think Chris was doing the best he could at the time, but he came off like an ass at times as well. Do I still play the series? Yes mostly, due too the characters and the fact it passes the time for me, as I has no life...

[xeNNN]

Yep I still hate it, at least the last 15 minutes.. 

 

I love all 3 games but it still ruins it for me even with the EC. 

 

but its not just that I had many issues with the game and still do such as:

 

- excessive running around scanning and returning ( they could of done several side missions out of all the scanning and grabbing content they did instead).

 

- some forced dialogue (made choice practically irrelevant).

 

- They over did the emotional output of the characters without showing a decent amount of reasoning behind it other than "i hate this war", I would of maybe looked passed it had a priority mission been set on a "slaughter ship" or something like that. In other words, too emotional without a reason causing the game to be more depressing than it needed to be making it have less replay value to some including me.

 

- repetitive animations all the time.

 

- They stupidly split the enemies in two factions, which to behonest makes for a good story in a long winded movie but not in a game, I wanted to see slaughter ships, drell, hanar....elcor, volus, I wanted to see every races reaper variations, the game over all because of this felt more about Cerberus than the reapers.

 

Additionally they should of added a side mission to do with javik and his past beyond the mission where you find him I mean.

 

- random anger from protagonist via forced dialogue. Choice between paragon and renegade was completely ignored in these areas.

 

- content from scrapped plots from early development is still there. 

       - i.e dream sequences (was supposed to be part of the plot where Shepard slowly loses control: Indoctrination, but they scrapped it mid dev, scenes were already in the game as a result but left there due to a lack of time apparently).

Again they could of added additional missions with all that left over content, wasted potential. 

instead they decided to use it to add "depth" to shepards character. which wasn't needed to be honest as we all already loved "our" shepards.

 

okay so yeah Ironically I have a lot of problems with the game I would even say it has more flaws than ME1 but thats a matter of prespective, IMO i see ME1 as a superior game story/choice wise. Mechanics Id say ME2 is superior to ME3.

 

I still play the game though, I guess you love the things you hate. like ex gf's haha

[AlanC9]

- excessive running around scanning and returning ( they could of done several side missions out of all the scanning and grabbing content they did instead).

That's idiotic. The scanning is almost free, and the fetch missions have maybe four lines total. All of this stuff together wouldn't come close to the time needed for one N7 mission, let alone a goid side mission like Grissom Academy.

[KaiserShep]

Excessive scanning? This ain't the Mass Effect 2 board.

[nevar00]

Hate is such a strong word...

 

It's an OK game.  It could have been so much better though, especially after the incredible Mass Effects' 1 and 2.  Everything just felt slightly rushed, dumbed down, and... kind of poorly written honestly, and not just the ending.

[Divine Justinia V]

I thought it was really good, obviously the ending was a bit disappointing but other than that, it was great.

[Steelcan]

I thought it was really good, obviously the ending was a bit disappointing but other than that, it was great.

That's what I thought about it immediately after launch

 

 

now I can write freakin essays about things that I don't like in it

 

 

 

but I still play it

[Staff Cdr Alenko]

Hate is such a strong word...

 

It's an OK game.  It could have been so much better though, especially after the incredible Mass Effects' 1 and 2.  Everything just felt slightly rushed, dumbed down, and... kind of poorly written honestly, and not just the ending.

 

Very well said, yes indeed. Come to think of it, I don't hate the game anymore, since there is nothing left to hate - I have expunged it from existence. Tom Cruise style:

 

[CronoDragoon]

That's what I thought about it immediately after launch
 
 
now I can write freakin essays about things that I don't like in it

IOV (Internet Forum Virus).

[AlanC9]

I'm not sure I own a single game that I couldn't write at least a few pages of rant sbout.

[Glockwheeler]

I never hated the ME games, just the way they ended. While not perfect, the Trilogy still is very good, as it is.

[Iakus]

I thought it was really good, obviously the ending was a bit disappointing but other than that, it was great.

 

Saying ME3's ending was "a bit disappointing" is like saying "water is a little wet" 

[angol fear]

Saying ME3's ending was "a bit disappointing" is like saying "water is a little wet" 

That's your opinion. Mine is that it was surprising.