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[SwobyJ]

I'm a little confused. If the problem with ME2/3 combat is that it isn't unbalanced enough, why not just turn on godmode?

This isn't correct. I think SwobyJ's right a few posts back when he says that stuff that didn't actually get established a game doesn't count. There were some ideas kicking around, but the Reapers never had a nature and purpose until the Catalyst came along.

 

You misunderstand what I was saying, I think. Or at least meaning.

 

I was meaning that there was no absolute 'original idea'. That there's a lot of ways that things could go. But I'm also saying that Bioware knew of SOME of them, and GENERAL ways to go. There were natures and purposes, and then one is picked and a further story formed around that.

 

What Sovereign said doesn't mean nothing. What Harbinger said doesn't mean nothing. All that happened was that many ideas became fewer.

[Lord Jaric]

I don't hate the game, I just didn't like the ending.

[angol fear]

You misunderstand what I was saying, I think. Or at least meaning.

 

I was meaning that there was no absolute 'original idea'. That there's a lot of ways that things could go. But I'm also saying that Bioware knew of SOME of them, and GENERAL ways to go. There were natures and purposes, and then one is picked and a further story formed around that.

 

What Sovereign said doesn't mean nothing. What Harbinger said doesn't mean nothing. All that happened was that many ideas became fewer.

While I agree with you on the fact that Bioware didn't have an "original idea" (it was said by Drew K.) and they have put possibilities in Mass Effect 1 and 2, I disagree with you on the importance of what Sovereign and Harbinger have said : it is very important and the ending creates the meaning of what has been said by them.

[SwobyJ]

While I agree with you on the fact that Bioware didn't have an "original idea" (it was said by Drew K.) and they have put possibilities in Mass Effect 1 and 2, I disagree with you on the importance of what Sovereign and Harbinger have said : it is very important and the ending creates the meaning of what has been said by them.

 

Read again: I said "doesn't mean nothing"

 

We actually seem to agree.

[angol fear]

Read again: I said "doesn't mean nothing"

 

We actually seem to agree.

Indeed! Sorry, then!

[Arcian]

I don't hate Mass Effect 3 as much as I hate what BioWare did to ruin it.

[pablosplinter]

No, I don't hate it. I am just incredibly disappointed. I never imagined I would care so little about the series.

[Farangbaa]

No, I don't hate it. I am just incredibly disappointed. I never imagined I would care so little about the series.

Ah, so that's why you're disappointed

[pablosplinter]

Ah, so that's why you're disappointed

I don't really know what you mean?

 

To further my comment though, I booked a week off work to play the first game and then ME2 at release, and a week to play 1 and 2 and then ME3 at release. If you had told me at that time that they would be releasing a fourth game, and I would be this uncaring about it, I would laugh and say there is no chance of that. As it is though, I can't even say I will definitely be getting it outside of a sale unfortunately:/

[Farangbaa]

I don't really know what you mean?

You can't be disappointed about something you don't care for.

[pablosplinter]

You can't be disappointed about something you don't care for.

 

Of course you can. As should be clear, it was being disappoiinted in it that made me not care...See my previous comment, I LOVED the series, and was stoked for ME3... but as I said in my original post, I was very disappointed with it, and it has turned a series that previously I would kill for any sequel to, in to something that is little more than just another game being released that I will maybe pick up.

[ruggly]

Gone from disappointed to meh. Actually going through another run of it now.

[Farangbaa]

Of course you can. As should be clear, it was being disappoiinted in it that made me not care...See my previous comment, I LOVED the series, and was stoked for ME3... but as I said in my original post, I was very disappointed with it, and it has turned a series that previously I would kill for any sequel to, in to something that is little more than just another game being released that I will maybe pick up.

Oh man. I totally misread

My apologies

[pablosplinter]

No worries

[Arcian]

You can't be disappointed about something you don't care for.

Of course you can, if there's a previous history of caring for that thing. Separation on bad terms works like that.

[Xandurpein]

I loved Mass Effect with a passion. There's no way I could be so disappointed by Mass Effect 3, if it wasn't for that. Mass Effect 3 is a decent game, but it remains, and I hope forever, the biggest disappoinment in my gaming history. I never want to relive the frustration and outright desolation that I felt finishing Mass Effect 3. I played through ME1 and ME2 almost twenty times, loving it, but I haven't been able to touch even the first two games since then.

I know I still love Mass Effect, that's why I won't play it anymore. It's like when a love relationship breaks up badly. You stay away from the girl until you can tell yourself you are really over her.

I don't mean to deny anybody else's enjoyment, but that's how I feel about it.

[N7 Banshee Bait]

I never hated the game & I love the control ending. I never had a problem with the post Extended Cut endings. Before the EC the endings were a huge WTF??? I don't understand why people still have a problem with the endings after the EC.

 

My problem is fact that this game is so awesome it has made me not like most other games. This is the only game I ever want to play now. I've been playing it since day 1 & there's still tons of stuff I missed. I've been through ME3 so many times & I still find something new every single time. And I'm also seeing tons of stuff I missed on Youtube. I can't believe it! It doesn't seem possible. Can't say that about any other game. ME3 managed to ruin all other video games for me.

 

Bioware created something light years ahead of all the other video game companies & I don't think they deserve any of the crap they've received from the fans. IMO all of you haters giving them non-stop crap over the endings should be ashamed of yourselves. This series is totally phenomenal/extraordinary. I'm totally disgusted with the people that still won't STFU about the endings. I'm disgusted with them because I don't want to live in world where people are so hateful & overly critical & only concentrate on the negative constantly. People like that make life in the real world a living hell. I don't want to be around you, you bring me down & depress me. But I can't escape you, you're everywhere, too many of you. You're the  real Reapers that I have to deal with from day to day! You make me sick!

 

 

Bioware & Mass Effect rule! HATERS SUCK!

[Fixers0]

It's not important whether or not I hate the game.  What matters is that the game is still, and always has been, of mediocre quality, and that will almost certainly never change. My emotional feelings towards the game are not relevant here, it what the game is that counts.

[SporkFu]

I never hated the game & I love the control ending. I never had a problem with the post Extended Cut endings. Before the EC the endings were a huge WTF??? I don't understand why people still have a problem with the endings after the EC.

 

My problem is fact that this game is so awesome it has made me not like most other games. This is the only game I ever want to play now. I've been playing it since day 1 & there's still tons of stuff I missed. I've been through ME3 so many times & I still find something new every single time. And I'm also seeing tons of stuff I missed on Youtube. I can't believe it! It doesn't seem possible. Can't say that about any other game. ME3 managed to ruin all other video games for me.

 

Bioware created something light years ahead of all the other video game companies & I don't think they deserve any of the crap they've received from the fans. IMO all of you haters giving them non-stop crap over the endings should be ashamed of yourselves. This series is totally phenomenal/extraordinary.

'Liked' for your liking ME3. I'm the same. I didn't buy ME1 right away, but on the strength of it I pre-ordered the other two. I've played the hell out of these games, and I have a huge backlog of games still to play, but I don't care, heh. 

[ZipZap2000]

No. I wouldn't be here if I did, I got over it a while ago and recently felt the need to come back and start playing through it all again so it's obviously a good game from my perspective or I would have sold the game when I cleaned out my collection out a few months back.

 

Disappointed at the lost potential, kind of wish it wasn't so depressing. But no hate here.

[RanetheViking]

No I loved all three games. Still do. And I'm still playing all three and the MP.

 

The ending could've been better, but I don't let that spoil my love for the games.

[Dale]

As many have expressed on this forum -- I share their sentiments  -- and that is:

 

The FIRST time I played ME3, I played all 4 endings.   I was so furious I wanted to "shoot something 46 times".   I discovered I wasn't alone by a long shot.

 

After I calmed down -- I began to reason that I could enjoy 98% of the game and ignore the 2% stupid endings.   The more I played it, the more I liked it.  I see NEW things all the time.  

 

And for reasons beyond the scope of this thread, I tend to believe besides our volatile attitude & opinions of the game, we are learning a little more about ourselves too.

[Iakus]

As many have expressed on this forum -- I share their sentiments  -- and that is:

 

The FIRST time I played ME3, I played all 4 endings.   I was so furious I wanted to "shoot something 46 times".   I discovered I wasn't alone by a long shot.

 

After I calmed down -- I began to reason that I could enjoy 98% of the game and ignore the 2% stupid endings.   The more I played it, the more I liked it.  I see NEW things all the time.  

 

And for reasons beyond the scope of this thread, I tend to believe besides our volatile attitude & opinions of the game, we are learning a little more about ourselves too.

Unfortunately, when it comes to a story, the ending is more than just a number.  2% of a train wreck is still a train wreck.

[SporkFu]

Unfortunately, when it comes to a story, the ending is more than just a number.  2% of a train wreck is still a train wreck.

Nah, 2% of a train wreck is like the caboose coming unhitched from the rest of the train as it goes around a corner, and (ultimately) harmlessly rolling off the track and into the ditch. No one on the caboose at the time is hurt; they're all just p*ssed about not getting to their next stop. 

[voteDC]

As has been mentioned several times before though, the ending is perhaps the single most important part of a story.

Have a great ending and it will make people ignore even the greatest of flaws with what came before. A bad ending will make people look back at the rest of the product far more critically than they otherwise would.

Now if the ending of Mass Effect 3 had been great then would people have been so bothered about the comedy animations or eavesdropping side-quests for example?

You can't separate an ending from the rest of the story. It's part of it.