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A Golden Dragon wrote...

The Soul of Urthemeil, Dragon god of Tevinter, would not contain memories without the Taint.

Unless Morrigan is wrong and the Taint is not removed, she will have quite a bit of Influence over said  child.


This is one of my biggest issues with the DR.  The idea that the kid would be untainted.  The AD transfers from Tainted vessel to Tainted vessel upon death.  That's why Grey Wardens work.  Morrigan specifically needs someone Tanted to be the father.  That's why she can't perform the ritual with Eamon or some random guy off the street.  The baby will  be an acceptable vessel for the AD soul.  How is this baby NOT a Tainted vessel?

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Morrigan is by far one of the best characters in DA behind Aveline of course. I shall never Kill her.

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Morrigan>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Aveline.

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KC_Prototype wrote...

Morrigan>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Aveline.


Ew.  No.

The only party member I disliked more than Morrigan was Anders.

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TK514 wrote...

KC_Prototype wrote...

Morrigan>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Aveline.


Ew.  No.

The only party member I disliked more than Morrigan was Anders.


Really you liked that preachy school mistress above Morrigan?

Didn't care for her personally but at least she didn't expell self righteousness with every breath.

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Master Warder Z wrote...

TK514 wrote...

The only party member I disliked more than Morrigan was Anders.


Really you liked that preachy school mistress above Morrigan?

Didn't care for her personally but at least she didn't expell self righteousness with every breath.


Aveline actually cared about people other than herself.

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TK514 wrote...

Master Warder Z wrote...

TK514 wrote...

The only party member I disliked more than Morrigan was Anders.


Really you liked that preachy school mistress above Morrigan?

Didn't care for her personally but at least she didn't expell self righteousness with every breath.


Aveline actually cared about people other than herself.


I actually was talking about Wynne...

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TK514 wrote...

A Golden Dragon wrote...

The Soul of Urthemeil, Dragon god of Tevinter, would not contain memories without the Taint.

Unless Morrigan is wrong and the Taint is not removed, she will have quite a bit of Influence over said  child.


This is one of my biggest issues with the DR.  The idea that the kid would be untainted.  The AD transfers from Tainted vessel to Tainted vessel upon death.  That's why Grey Wardens work.  Morrigan specifically needs someone Tanted to be the father.  That's why she can't perform the ritual with Eamon or some random guy off the street.  The baby will  be an acceptable vessel for the AD soul.  How is this baby NOT a Tainted vessel?


Because magic.
Because that's how it was conveniently written.

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Br3ad wrote...

It's amazing how the BSN has some sick desire for killing everything that disagrees with their morals, no?


Pfft, you're amazed by this? :huh:Go to other places on the internet, BSN is tame. I would be more worried if BSN were making death threats towards real people not fake ones.

And yes to OP- I want to be able to murder knife that scheming witch properly. Not all the time, but I wouldn't mind the option.

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Aveline would of been my prefrence of an LI for my mage Hawke on my second playth through, Rather her than Merril. But when it comes down to it, she is just a tease, there to taunt you and crush your dreams:crying:. Morrigan was a possible LI at least, unlike Aveline. So, I say again, Morrigan>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Aveline!

Modifié par KC_Prototype, 14 février 2014 - 03:24 .


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IMO I saw Aveline as a big sister, never a LI.

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SgtSteel91 wrote...

IMO I saw Aveline as a big sister, never a LI.

Well, I romanced Isabella with my original Hawke who was warrior and then did a second play through as mage Hawke and I really want to romance Aveline that time around by was ****-blocked by Bioware and was pretty upset. It was an unfair balance of LIs and Merril is too pixie for me.

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KC_Prototype wrote...

SgtSteel91 wrote...

IMO I saw Aveline as a big sister, never a LI.

Well, I romanced Isabella with my original Hawke who was warrior and then did a second play through as mage Hawke and I really want to romance Aveline that time around by was ****-blocked by Bioware and was pretty upset. It was an unfair balance of LIs and Merril is too pixie for me.


Oh please, the male LI's in DA2 are way worse than the female ones- Both Fenris and Anders are whiny zealots. At least Isabela is fairly lax and Merrill stops her stupid mirror quest if you push her. Fenris and Anders just remain b!tchy and Anders is totally off his rocker.

Hopefully we'll have less nutty LIs in DAI I was fed up with the crazies. <_<

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I'm going with the third option and not having any LI in Inquisition. Just an Inquisitor focused on the mission.

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Master Warder Z wrote...

I actually was talking about Wynne...


ah, I see.  At leat Wynne was self aware enough to realize and apologize for doing it in at least one case.

Modifié par TK514, 14 février 2014 - 05:48 .


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KiwiQuiche wrote...
Oh please, the male LI's in DA2 are way worse than the female ones- Both Fenris and Anders are whiny zealots. At least Isabela is fairly lax and Merrill stops her stupid mirror quest if you push her. Fenris and Anders just remain b!tchy and Anders is totally off his rocker.

Hopefully we'll have less nutty LIs in DAI I was fed up with the crazies. <_<


I never really thought about it, but yeah, the male LI's in DA2 are pretty much the choice between the angstmaster and Bin Magister. I guess there's Sebastian, if you go for the chaste romance thing.

Modifié par KaiserShep, 14 février 2014 - 06:33 .


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KiwiQuiche wrote...

KC_Prototype wrote...

SgtSteel91 wrote...

IMO I saw Aveline as a big sister, never a LI.

Well, I romanced Isabella with my original Hawke who was warrior and then did a second play through as mage Hawke and I really want to romance Aveline that time around by was ****-blocked by Bioware and was pretty upset. It was an unfair balance of LIs and Merril is too pixie for me.


Oh please, the male LI's in DA2 are way worse than the female ones- Both Fenris and Anders are whiny zealots. At least Isabela is fairly lax and Merrill stops her stupid mirror quest if you push her. Fenris and Anders just remain b!tchy and Anders is totally off his rocker.

Hopefully we'll have less nutty LIs in DAI I was fed up with the crazies. <_<

But at least you had three options compared to two, one I lliked(Isabella), the other...meh(Merril). Aveline was not an LI for some stupid reason:pinched:

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SgtSteel91 wrote...

I'm going with the third option and not having any LI in Inquisition. Just an Inquisitor focused on the mission.

Where's the fun in that? All work and no play makes a person dull.:happy:

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KC_Prototype wrote...
But at least you had three options compared to two, one I lliked(Isabella), the other...meh(Merril). Aveline was not an LI for some stupid reason:pinched:


The only lawful good LI option I can recall in this franchise thus far is Alistair. I'm loath to count Sebastian, partly because he's not part of DA2 by default.

Modifié par KaiserShep, 14 février 2014 - 06:37 .


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Kel Riever wrote...

Actually, I meant this one:

The one Ares posted I hadn't seen and it certainly is an improvement over the picture I'm posting here.



Both are fine.

Really, I'm  sick and tired of whiny peoepl complainign over EVERYTHING.

- It's a new engine (and a different lighting)
- Morrigan is older and is living in Orlais (eating fine foods) Nothing wrong with her getting a bit mroe meat on her cheeks.
- the first image has caught her mid-sentance, makignher mouth seem even weirder.

The new Morrigan - either of them - looks better than the old one.
Drop the ropse-tinted glasses.


Steelcan wrote...

Clearly the woman raised in the woods
educated by.....whatever the hell Flemeth is, and power obsessed, is a
great idea to be giving a god baby.

I mean how can it possibly backfire? Probably no worse than giving Cerberus the Collector base or Branka the Anvil.


BUT MORRIGAN IS MY WAIFU! SHE WOULD NEVER DO THAT!

Yup. Love is indeed blind.

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After such a long time, only a few people truly want to kill her, I mean c'mon, Morrigan is NO GOOD and DA:I will prove it, and even if she is good, i will still kill her cause my Inquisitor doesn't want rivals and wants to save Thedas singlehandedly!

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TheChris92 wrote...

Redbelle wrote...
Couldn't disagree more.

As long as the
writers remember who these characters and fit them into the story well,
having new characters for the sake of new characters...... is...
well..... just redundant.

Having old characters for the
sake of having old characters return is... redundant, not the other way
around -- Let's take into account of the fact that the Dragon Age games
are not about Leliana and her love for nugs or Morrigan or even Alistair
-- It's about the world.

So when BioWare makes a statement like this
then I expect to explore new cities, new places, with completely new
characters. When I go to New York I do expect to find my good ol' grand
uncle fumbling around in Manhattan. I expect to meet new people if
possible. There's a difference between having some small NPC from
previous games show up in a larger role or something, and just having
the same old companions come back again and again to say their trademark
one-liners then leave. Let us please avoid that and not have them as
companions either.


New for the sake of new is just as redundant and boring as old for the sake of old.

You are right when you say that DA is about the world..BUT, in every setting you have important characters. The movers and shakers.
Complaining about Morrigan in DA is like complaining about Elminster in D&D.

We already knew from DA:O epilogues that she is in Orlais. And she - like her mother - a manipulator who likes to stick her nose everywhere where there is power. So it makes perfect sense for her to cross patch with the Inquisitor. So in this case, your uncle was already in New york before you arrived, and he may be looking for you.

In fact, NOT having her appear might be weirder than not having her.

With that said, a developer/writer is full within his rights to re-use characters they like. It's a big world and there is a lot of new characters to meet - that doesn't mean all the old characters stop existing or travelign or doign their own things.

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I kill her in witch hunt and she is back lmao, Is she possessed by the spirit of justice this time as well.

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Phoenixalex wrote...

I kill her in witch hunt and she is back lmao, Is she possessed by the spirit of justice this time as well.

You didn't kill her. You stabbed her.

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Master Warder Z wrote...

TK514 wrote...
Aveline actually cared about people other than herself.


I actually was talking about Wynne...


Still the same applies.

Both are far better people than Morrigan - who b.t.w. also preaches and nags constantly.

But Morrigan gets a pass because she's a sexy seductress.
I'm willing to bet all my money that if Morrigan was an old, ugly woman, she would habve 99% less adoring fans.