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[ReadingRambo220]

Careful, if you kill her she might "Become more powerful than you could possibly imagine." She might become a fade spirit and chat with Jedis.

[Bayonet Hipshot]

NO!

No one kills Morrigan. No one.

[Huge_Beaver]

Don't care for her and I don't know if I can trust her, but killing her seems a tad extreme.

[Zatche]

vlyms1 wrote...

I found the link of the article, it's on destructoid:
http://www.destructo...on-259956.phtml
and as a side note, the article stated that it's Morrigan's moment, which also implies the possibility to kill her! She is on my list of most hated fictional characters EVER, alongside Joffrey Baratheon!

The article title is misleading as nothing in the article implies that the player will decide Morrigan's fate. That "Morrigan's moment" statement doesn't imply anything other than the fact that she will have a spotlight.

And what did Morrigan ever do that justifies a comparison to Joffrey? 

[Lotion Soronarr]

I liked her character.

I don't like her as a person tough. She is cold, manipulative and cannot be trusted. Also immoral as hell. A very bad combo.

Still, I won't kill her unless she gives me a reason too.

Would mind is she gets her deserved karmic reward by someone else tough. Probably one of the alianage elves she was so keen on draining.

[Lotion Soronarr]

Valadras21 wrote...

Master Warder Z wrote...

EmperorSahlertz wrote...

"It is nice to have to option to kill someone" ...... Really? No one else finds that sentence a little sick?

When it comes to a fictional lump of pixels on a screen?

No

With that mentality you could simplify a human being to a lump of meat with water sloshing around in it. Let's be honest, if video games were just lumps of pixels to people, we wouldn't be seeing threads like this one, or its more positive counterparts. And video games themselves probably wouldn't have advanced much since pong and tetris.

What X is to Y doesn't matter much compared to what X is.
Given that a game is a bunch of code and data, and that character don't get offended or have any real emotions or lives, then I don't see the problem.
Actually, the PERCEPTION of it is what creates a problem.

If Bob was in love with a rock, would you feel bad for the rock if it broke?
No, you might feel bad for Bob because of his emoptional attachment and pain, but the rock is a rock.

[blod007]

So what would you do OP if Morrigan or someone like her was "doing a Niall" and her body was in the real world and her spirit in the fade - with you in Inquisition and you knew killing her would kill the dream and end the Inquisitor's existence - you'd kill her am I right? What if it turns out The Witches contributed to provide nearly everything that Maric needed to win against Orlais, what the Warden needed to sort out the civil war, crown a Monarch and end the Blight while gaining a better understanding of Darkspawn and Demons than most people had in years. Still keen with the murder knife? This is not a head canon, it's just a possibility that I see happening in the game.

She ends any game based on what she witnessed and how other people are treated and the value of people and things, her outlook would be based on what she had experienced, what the Warden or Flemeth had shown her. IMHO players who show little patience when dealing with Morrigan, seem to misunderstand that she was like a child trying to learn anything she could. She could also be a spy gathering information though. What she said and what she meant I think were two different things. I don't think she lied, she just left out details that later on prove important.

She has too many seer, rogue and Elven references in her dialogue and appearance in Origins to allow herself be trapped and executed. I am willing to see how Inquisition pans out before my Inquistitor does something rash which they might regret later.

She didn't go to Orlais for a holiday. Surely she wouldn't think of lumbering herself with a kid for no reason? If she turns out to be a manipulative b**** it is because she was told she was one, and if that helps her do what she has to do in Inquistion then she's going to do it. Do we really know what her motivation is yet? So far it's guess work no actual proof.

It could be a misunderstanding, give the girl a chance.

[KC_Prototype]

Damn, the OP really hates Morrigan. Have you tried romancing her? That should change your mind.

[chuckwells62]

Morrigan (voiced by the delightful Claudia Black) is a keeper for me, and whether she proves to ultimately be evil or (hopefully) not, I would prefer that she not get permanently 86'ed!

[TheKomandorShepard]

KC_Prototype wrote...

Damn, the OP really hates Morrigan. Have you tried romancing her? That should change your mind.

Well why peoples always asume that befriending her or romancing will make peoples like her...
She is always bi*** even if you romance her then she stops being one toward you (only toward you) what can make many peoples don't like her.As far it is her only sympathetic part and there is no much to that rest is pure bi***  

And well before you asume that i hate her no i even like her but i want kill her simple because she is bi*** that can't be trusted (and i mean huge **** by that).

[KC_Prototype]

Komandor, how can you say such hurtful things about my love? She isn't a **** at all, she's not perfect but she has good qualities. She also has power and information that could savs the world.

[KaiserShep]

I'm curious as to what example(s) one could draw from to prove that Morrigan can't be trusted.

[TheKomandorShepard]

KC_Prototype wrote...

Komandor, how can you say such hurtful things about my love? She isn't a **** at all, she's not perfect but she has good qualities. She also has power and information that could savs the world.

ekhm

"but she has good qualities." to be honest romance or friendship with her is her only only positive trait that she had in first game if she wasn't in our party she would be just another villain.As once mentioned morrigan was in dao black character not gray... we can debate about that but what is point she is bi*** toward everyone only exception is the warden and only when friend or lover...

KaiserShep wrote...

I'm curious as to what example(s) one could draw from to prove that Morrigan can't be trusted.

Lets see cruel manipulative bi*** that enjoy suffering of others (if you want aruge i can start pointing examples) and don't have any moral qualms and is power hungry...

Modifié par TheKomandorShepard, 12 février 2014 - 03:20 .

[BallaZs]

No way. Although I wouldn't mind finishing Flemeth.

[Vilegrim]

considering I want to kill off NPCs as well, (and possibly some party members depending on how pro-chantry they are) I can't complain about some one else wanting to kill Morrigan. Their is nothing wrong with Thedas that a ten thousand crucifixions per city would not solve.

Modifié par Vilegrim, 12 février 2014 - 04:04 .

[KaiserShep]

BallaZs wrote...

No way. Although I wouldn't mind finishing Flemeth.

Flemeth is a weird case since her intervention actually did quite a bit of good in the story. If not for her, the entirety of Ferelden's Grey Wardens would have been wiped out, and the Blight would have likely consumed the country before sufficient forces came to help, especially since the foreign Grey Warden sent to investigate was captured as well.

[BallaZs]

KaiserShep wrote...

BallaZs wrote...

No way. Although I wouldn't mind finishing Flemeth.

Flemeth is a weird case since her intervention actually did quite a bit of good in the story. If not for her, the entirety of Ferelden's Grey Wardens would have been wiped out, and the Blight would have likely consumed the country before sufficient forces came to help, especially since the foreign Grey Warden sent to investigate was captured as well.

That's true but I still don't like her.  I was surprised that she managed to stay alive after I "killed" her in DA:O upon Morrigan's request. Now that I think about it, I remeber Morrigan mentioning that it is not likely that her mother died for good.

IMO, Morrigan is still the most interesting character in DA:O.

Modifié par BallaZs, 12 février 2014 - 03:52 .

[vlyms1]

Whatever people, I'll finish her off no matter how good she is (which I doubt she has any good in her at all), and regarding arguments like "She might have what is needed to save the world", well guess what, she's not the PROTAGONIST, you are, that's right, you're THE STAR OF THE UNIVERSE, you shape the wold, and you have the power to save it by yourself! The player is A FORCE TO BE RECKONED WITH! And that will never EVER change in Bioware games, so Morrigan might do good is useless, since the player can eventually do it anyway....

[BallaZs]

The matter of her being "evil" is not black & white. What's up with the hostility towards her btw?

[vlyms1]

the first time i saw her i hated her attitude and she also looked like a filthy smelly swamp ho and she is super beeshy and i can't STAND her, She's soooo going down!

[BallaZs]

She is actually the best looking woman in Ferelden. Much better than any other that I've seen so far in DA:O or DA2. Plus, I really like her personality. I for one, can't stand Leliana when she speaks about the Maker and Chantry stuff. That stuff just drives me crazy.

[vlyms1]

best looking woman? HAAAAAAAHHAHAHAAAA, Leliana > Morrigan at looks, Morrigan looks bulky, not to mention that Bethany Hawke also owns her in looks, and there are others who look better, good joke!

[BallaZs]

Opinions like yesterdays Anyway, it is kinda pointless arguing about which one of them looks better, all I'm saying is that I find Morrigan to be much more interesting than Leliana. I can't say much for Bethany, I had to look up on Google who were you talking about (She left that little impression on me).
Not to mention that I played DA2 once and ever since trying to forget about that disappointment.

[Ecrulis]

Ah good ole BSN, it's always fun to pop in and see who the sociopaths deem worthy of slaughter this time.

[HK-90210]

Ecrulis wrote...

Ah good ole BSN, it's always fun to pop in and see who the sociopaths deem worthy of slaughter this time.

And for what it's worth, only a few of my personalities believe Morrigan deserves to die. Most just shrug and move on to more important things. Like arguing on the internet.

Modifié par CastonFolarus, 12 février 2014 - 05:55 .