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[BlueMagitek]

Starsyn wrote...

Ah, gotcha. It never bothered me I suppose. As a Warden, I don't trust Flemeth any further than I can throw her. I thought Morrigan was far more important to my character than Flemeth. Creators know what Flemeth was going to do with Morrigan's body. I wasn't going to let her. Good for Flemeth for saving my life, but after the tales my Warden heard about her, that wasn't enough. I also had a feeling that Flemeth wasn't truly dead, just an avatar of hers. I killed that part of Flemeth, which kept my friend safe.

Also, if the baby exists, it isn't an Archdemon. They are not one and the same, and I never saw Morrigan as "controlling" a powerful soul as raising a child. Being a mother and trying to help the world.

The funny thing is, you didn't.  Killing Flemeth and delivering her spellbook gains Morrigan nothing, because she herself notes that Flemeth isn't finished, and if you bring her back the spellbook without killing Flemeth, she realizes that the spellbook does not have what she is looking for.

But it can become an Archdemon.  The Old Gods are still Old Gods until they come into contact with the taint.  They don't just sit around doing nothing in the Deep Roads waiting to be freed by Darkspawn to rule the surface; they're found by Darkspawn and corrupted.

[Grieving Natashina]

SgtSteel91 wrote...

I think the poster meant to say that "Morrigan being the Big Bad" was a fan rumor.

Ah.  Then I apologize Han.  Mea Culpa. 

@Blue: Again, I don't see it that way.   Morrigan has been gathering strength and allies.  It's obvious the child hasn't put out a Call yet, and due to it being human, it may not.  I'm not going to assume it's going to be an archdemon at this point.  It's just a child with a very special soul.  If he even exists at all.

Let's just agree to disagree here. 

Modifié par Starsyn, 12 février 2014 - 10:28 .

[Master Warder Z_]

Starsyn wrote...

SgtSteel91 wrote...

I think the poster meant to say that "Morrigan being the Big Bad" was a fan rumor.

Ah.  Then I apologize Han.  Mea Culpa. 

@Blue: Again, I don't see it that way.  Let's just agree to disagree here. 

You don't see the very real possibilty of an Archdemon being recreated once the taint is inflicted upon said being?

That's assuming that the spell even produced the result Morrigan said it would; Personally i view that as the largest potential threat out there prior to the veil tears.

._. I really can't comphrehend out people can see anything but a massive risk to Thedas in it's entirity.

Like we need another corrupted dragon running about the world destroying everything.

[Grieving Natashina]

I see it as a potential for good. A chance to end the Blights once and for all. A powerful Old God, with the blood of dragons, kings, mages and Wardens, aligned towards good intent. Dedicated towards destroying all Darkspawn, with an army at his back. That's just as likely to happen as the more apocalyptic scenario.

I also think that the kid has nothing to do at all with the Veil tears. I think we're possibly dealing with another Awakened-type Darkspawn, but that theory is for another thread.

I can't understand how anyone fails to see the good that can come of the DR. Too many posters are only seeing the potential negative consequences.

Modifié par Starsyn, 12 février 2014 - 10:37 .

[Master Warder Z_]

Because when something sounds too good to be true it often is.

Better to just negate the equation entirely rather then risk the possible downside which is the end of the world.

And i don't see your proposed scenario as even vaguely likely little lone compared to this blowing up in morrigan's face which seems far more likely. Given that exposure to the taint will likely just corrupt it as it did every single other that was within the presence of the Darkspawn.

Fighting a foe with a weapon that has already proven not only ineffective but also aids the enemy is beyond any sound battlefield logic.

[Grieving Natashina]

That's the fun part. We'll wait and see.

Look, we obviously see the whole thing differently. I respect your views, I just cannot be utterly focused on the negative aspects. If I'm wrong and you're right, well it'll be interesting to see how it all plays out. If I'm right, I'll just be happy that there is some hope in Thedas. We're still a ways off from knowing either way.

I can damn near promise that the DR isn't going to have a lot to do with this game, except maybe a line or two. The kid, as far as I know, hasn't made it's way into "Bioware's Cannon" yet.

That's all assuming the DR even took place. If the Warden said "Bite me, Morrigan," and either have Alistair die or did the US themselves, the kid doesn't even exist.

As I've said, to each their own. I think I've said my piece on this subject and I don't want to have pages of a circular debate. Anyone wants a pint, I'm buying.

[Master Warder Z_]

True enough I haven't had a Warden stupid enough yet to give the Witch what she sought.

Who would seriously trust her with such a thing? The Archdemons aren't something the world is better off without obviously enough.

So in my canon playthrough the Dark Ritual never even took place.

[Grieving Natashina]

Master Warder Z wrote...

True enough I haven't had a Warden stupid enough yet to give the Witch what she sought.

Who would seriously trust her with such a thing? The Archdemons aren't something the world is better off without obviously enough.

So in my canon playthrough the Dark Ritual never even took place.

Just wanted to add my first Warden, my Dwarf Commoner, felt the same way.  So in that world state, there was no DR.   Poor Alistair...

[SgtSteel91]

Master Warder Z wrote...

True enough I haven't had a Warden stupid enough yet to give the Witch what she sought.

My Warden isn't stupid, and by extension I am not stupid for making that decision.

Modifié par SgtSteel91, 12 février 2014 - 10:57 .

[budzai]

Starsyn wrote...



@bud: Yes, I do believe it.  Just as you have your thoughts and feeling about her as well.  We see the character differently.  Neither of us are right or wrong in our opinions, we just have different takes on her personality and her motivations.

Well, I have never seen a psychopath who works for the geater good but we will see....

[Master Warder Z_]

SgtSteel91 wrote...

Master Warder Z wrote...

True enough I haven't had a Warden stupid enough yet to give the Witch what she sought.

My Warden isn't stupid, and by extension I am not stupid for making that decision.

If you can somehow explain the rationale of handing a swamp witch the soul of a diety that can be corrupted into an unholy abomination and thus become a threat to the entire continent if not the world.

Explain it and make me see it as not a threat but a boon and i will revise my opinion; Please do so; Until then? It's pure idiocy. Note i am speaking of the line of logic that that Kindergarden level cognition that consists of postivity of that line thought, not the minds it runs through.


So i am no more  saying the Warden is stupid or the player is stupid then i am praising the idea; I am stating the Idea is stupid.

[TMZuk]

The only powerful, assertive woman in DA:O and you want to kill her? Well, I want her to live, and to keep on exposing the hypocricy that is paramount in Thedeas.

Go Morrigan!

[Boss Fog]

Honestly, who really gives a **** if the option to kill her is there? All the Morrigan marks can continue kissing her pixelated feet while all the haters can murder knife her. More options are always better.

Modifié par TelvanniWarlord, 12 février 2014 - 11:51 .

[KC_Prototype]

My Male Cousland loved Morrigan and was happy to bear a child with her. My male Amell mage loved Leliana but craved power and didn't want to die so of course he did the DR. Also, free sex with no emotional attatchments. Also, Star, you have now been added to my list of awesome BSNers.

[DKJaigen]

Master Warder Z wrote...

True enough I haven't had a Warden stupid enough yet to give the Witch what she sought.

Who would seriously trust her with such a thing? The Archdemons aren't something the world is better off without obviously enough.

So in my canon playthrough the Dark Ritual never even took place.

The archdemon es. The old god? well we dont know. But if the ancient legends are true you can obtain invaluble information from them. And currently with the rise of intelligent darkspawn its bettr to have every edge.

[noelnuno]

She's my romance, can't wait to see her and talk about my warden.

[wtfman99]

I think there's a lot of ways to go with her.

Is she flemmeth now?
Does she have her own motives? Is she the big evil at the end of the day?
How dos her child turn out?

Tough to say

[Han Shot First]

SgtSteel91 wrote...

I think the poster meant to say that "Morrigan being the Big Bad" was a fan rumor.

Yeah, I was just referring to Morrigan being the big bad. That is just fan speculation. No dev or gaming publication has said anything specific about Morrigan's role other than her having some large unspecified role in the game's plot.

[SNascimento]

Morrigan being the Big Bad would be pretty cool, especially if the Grey Warden is at her side. Now that would be epic!

[KC_Prototype]

noelnuno wrote...

She's my romance, can't wait to see her and talk about my warden.

Same, I can't wait to hear what she has to say about my Cousland. Maybe about his stamina and prowess. Or his conquer of Flemeth, The Witch of the Wilds.

[10K]

Nope, won't kill her. Even if given the chance. Compared to all companions so far, Morrigan has been the most interesting one. Everyone else, beside Anders, has been a bit meh.

[n7stormrunner]

I'd rather kill the warden myself... better yet find him dead surrounded the corpses of a whole lot darkspawn

[Ieldra]

TMZuk wrote...
The only powerful, assertive woman in DA:O and you want to kill her?

Is there anything surprising about that? Certain people just are like that.

Well, I want her to live, and to keep on exposing the hypocrisy that is paramount in Thedeas.

Go Morrigan!

Indeed so. I suspect we may be able to influence how things go, and I'm almost certain an outcome where Morrigan is dead won't appeal to me.

[Ryzaki]

TMZuk wrote...
The only powerful, assertive woman in DA:O and you want to kill her?

Um..what? Flemeth's invisible now?

Wanting to kill Morrigan does not necessarily have anything whatsoever to do with wanting to kill powerful assertive women.

Just has to do with wanting to kill Morrigan.

[darkchief10]

No thanks, not interested (goes back to kissing morrigans feet)