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Nate_Assassin wrote...

HE is OP but GE is more OP and QME is most OP engie.


i like them too. But the kit I felt more confident those in Firebase London Gold collectors ( - hack in middle) is HE. Extracted easily twice yesterday. Hence this post. Grenades , HM don't work that great in London. Too much open space.

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Nate_Assassin wrote...

HE is OP but GE is more OP and QME is most OP engie.


I guess the Talon doesnt exist on your system...

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b00g13man wrote...

DeadeyeCYclops78 wrote...

lol this conversation... anyway like i said I know how TB are done. but thanks for completely making another post about it in your confusion. The OP claimed to cause TB on purpose for shields. I asked WHY? when you can just FE them. That group of enemies will likely all just die from 1 FE if you soften them up with a lil weapons fire.... therefore skipping the weaker TB in most cases..... you keep goin on about doin it on accident and i was from the start talking about  him causing them on purpose... so please calm down you really don't need backup from other bsners.... just sayin:whistle:

Are you high on something? You're responding to posts that predate your last response to me. Admit your mistake and move along. Everyone's wrong every once in a while.

 lol  i'm always high on something..... life... other ppl misunderstanding things... shrugs. there's no point in admitting to anything other than  there was confusion in this conversation starting with your first response....shrugs...

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DeadeyeCYclops78 wrote...

Not everyone  throws overload out everytime they see shields... I don't. Pretty much always start with Incinerate... starting the DOT first is the best way to go no matter how small the DOT is in my opinion.... 


So when you're seeing shielded enemies your first instinct is not to use one of the most powerful powers against shields?
Starting with Incinerate is definitely not the best way to go - and that's not an opinion, it's simply the truth.

Modifié par Max Dmian, 12 février 2014 - 08:57 .


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Max Dmian wrote...

DeadeyeCYclops78 wrote...

Not everyone  throws overload out everytime they see shields... I don't. Pretty much always start with Incinerate... starting the DOT first is the best way to go no matter how small the DOT is in my opinion.... 


So when you're seeing shielded enemies your first instinct is not to use one of the most powerful powers against shields?
Starting with Incinerate is definitely not the best way to go - and that's not an opinion, it's simply the truth.


It is indeed my first instinct to set up FE for myself or anyone else who can set it off before i can, so yes. Unless i'm using a paladin then of course i'd snap cheese first for CE...

Just because i prefer Fire Explosions over Tech bursts  does not make it wrong, it simply makes it different than what others do... I'm totally fine with not playin like some ppl do. Hasn't served me wrong in about 1600 hours of gameplay so why would i change it? Maybe i'm an arsonist in disguise?:bandit:

Modifié par DeadeyeCYclops78, 12 février 2014 - 09:22 .


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FuriousFelicia wrote...

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Well then would this also be possible: Paladin - fire shield bash - incinerate = FE - ED = TB?


This doesn't make any sense to me... Care to elaborate? Then I can tell you if it's possible or not.


Fire shield primes for FE, proceed with incinerate to detonate. Now if HE can chain his combo after that with overload, couldn't the Paladin do the same with ED?


Well, first of all that would create a FE and not a TB, since incinerate would be the primer. Second, the target would need to be shielded, as ED needs to steal some shields in order to detonate. Third, maybe most importantly... I don't really think that would be possible, as I don't think any power other than BS can detonate and reprime for the same kind of explosion of the first one. Even warp, that, as NT said, can detonate a tech combo and prime for a biotic one, can't detonate a biotic one and reprime for a biotic one. Sooo... I doubt incinerate could detonate a FE and prime for a FE afterward. Now, if you were to prime with SF at first instead of the shield, that would lead to a CE when you hit with incinerate, and incinerate would also prime for a FE at that point, since it's a different kind of combo, and you could then detonate a FE with ED, assuming the enemy is still shielded.

Am I making sense? :happy:

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DeadeyeCYclops78 wrote...

Max Dmian wrote...

DeadeyeCYclops78 wrote...

Not everyone  throws overload out everytime they see shields... I don't. Pretty much always start with Incinerate... starting the DOT first is the best way to go no matter how small the DOT is in my opinion.... 


So when you're seeing shielded enemies your first instinct is not to use one of the most powerful powers against shields?
Starting with Incinerate is definitely not the best way to go - and that's not an opinion, it's simply the truth.


It is indeed my first instinct to set up FE for myself or anyone else who can set it off before i can, so yes. Unless i'm using a paladin then of course i'd snap cheese first for CE...

Just because i prefer Fire Explosions over Tech bursts  does not make it wrong, it simply makes it different than what others do... I'm totally fine with not playin like some ppl do. Hasn't served me wrong in about 1600 hours of gameplay so why would i change it? Maybe i'm an arsonist in disguise?:bandit:


Preferring FE's for any kind of reason is perfectly normal, I mean, I find the FE animation way more satisfying than the TB's.
But I didn't say it was wrong, I was simply referring to the fact that you said it was the best way to go - which it isn't against shielded enemies (;

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Jaded4Chaos wrote...

No chain overload? You should at least put rank 4 into chain and leave rank 6 as is... Falcon with SMG works great. You should be able to find a combo with those guns to allow for the 3 sec rule. I think it's more fun than efficient but that just IMO

I designed that engineer build to let me 1HKO any shielded mook with the widow, without being dependant on phasics, that's why he doesn't have chain overload.

My other HEng has a much lighter load-out, a suicide drone, radius incinerate, and chain overload for max combos and CC.

I intentionally made them as different to one another as I could.

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DeadeyeCYclops78 wrote...

Max Dmian wrote...

DeadeyeCYclops78 wrote...

Not everyone  throws overload out everytime they see shields... I don't. Pretty much always start with Incinerate... starting the DOT first is the best way to go no matter how small the DOT is in my opinion.... 


So when you're seeing shielded enemies your first instinct is not to use one of the most powerful powers against shields?
Starting with Incinerate is definitely not the best way to go - and that's not an opinion, it's simply the truth.


It is indeed my first instinct to set up FE for myself or anyone else who can set it off before i can, so yes. Unless i'm using a paladin then of course i'd snap cheese first for CE...

Just because i prefer Fire Explosions over Tech bursts  does not make it wrong, it simply makes it different than what others do... I'm totally fine with not playin like some ppl do. Hasn't served me wrong in about 1600 hours of gameplay so why would i change it? Maybe i'm an arsonist in disguise?:bandit:


Not wrong. but not optimal. Borderline wrong. :devil: Looking at your manifest, offcourse you are capable to HE without fire explosions.

and like stated before, you cant rerally avoid them if you are able to detonate your own FEs. And TBs are great, excpet that they dont make boom sound. But its so much less freqent than others to see them in kill feeds, it is satisfying. 

Did you try her with 120-150% cooldown?

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Evil Mastered wrote...

Jaded4Chaos wrote...

No chain overload? You should at least put rank 4 into chain and leave rank 6 as is... Falcon with SMG works great. You should be able to find a combo with those guns to allow for the 3 sec rule. I think it's more fun than efficient but that just IMO

I designed that engineer build to let me 1HKO any shielded mook with the widow, without being dependant on phasics, that's why he doesn't have chain overload.

My other HEng has a much lighter load-out, a suicide drone, radius incinerate, and chain overload for max combos and CC.

I intentionally made them as different to one another as I could.


of those 2 , which one you like to play more? Just curious.

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@Deerber

Just went through that again and you are making sense because I got lost in the translation there now I can see that.

But the main point is I had no idea you can chain combos like that. I was sure it should be possible but I thought that detonation cancels the priming effects of the detonator.

So I thought that after FE detonated by overload you would need to reprime with overload before you can make a TB.

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Evil Mastered wrote...

Jaded4Chaos wrote...

No chain overload? You should at least put rank 4 into chain and leave rank 6 as is... Falcon with SMG works great. You should be able to find a combo with those guns to allow for the 3 sec rule. I think it's more fun than efficient but that just IMO

I designed that engineer build to let me 1HKO any shielded mook with the widow, without being dependant on phasics, that's why he doesn't have chain overload.

My other HEng has a much lighter load-out, a suicide drone, radius incinerate, and chain overload for max combos and CC.

I intentionally made them as different to one another as I could.


I see.  I tried it but immediately didn't like.  As long as you're having fun:wizard:  One of my 2 has a jacked up build that I've never bother fixing.  The other I find loads of fun.

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FuriousFelicia wrote...

@Deerber

Just went through that again and you are making sense because I got lost in the translation there now I can see that.

But the main point is I had no idea you can chain combos like that. I was sure it should be possible but I thought that detonation cancels the priming effects of the detonator.

So I thought that after FE detonated by overload you would need to reprime with overload before you can make a TB.


nvm. 

Modifié par Jaded4Chaos, 12 février 2014 - 10:19 .


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Whenever I see shields, I hit 'em with a Cryo Blast.

#yoloswagKennyRush

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MofuggerX wrote...

Whenever I see shields, I hit 'em with a Cryo Blast.

#yoloswagKennyRush


did i tell you that i really like your posts? It is no sarcasm ;)

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Incinerate + Incendiary Reegar

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Dovakiin-TheSlayer wrote...

of those 2 , which one you like to play more? Just curious.

I slightly prefer the widow build, simply because it kills mooks so quickly.

Every time he bolts the rifle to eject the spent heatsink, I imagine he's spitting out a 80's action movie style one-liner.

*Boom!* "Next."
*Boom!* "Look ma, no face"
*Boom!* "Suck it"
Etc...

Explosion madness is fun too though.

I'm considering re-speccing my SalEng, MHEng, and FHEng in order to swap their weapon loadouts around, giving the SalEng the widow since he can't combo juggle very well to begin with, so he doesn't need to worry about keeping incinerate's cooldown below 3 seconds.

The builds I'm considering:

Salarian Engineer.
Male Human Engineer.
Female Human Engineer.

The HEng's both have incinerate cooldowns just a bit better than 3 seconds this way, which coupled with incinerate's travel time should give me just enough time to self-detonate.

Edit: Still thinking about it LOL!

Salarian Engineer V3.
Male Human Engineer V3.
Female Human Engineer V3.

Just need respec cards now...

Modifié par Evil Mastered, 15 février 2014 - 09:20 .


#118
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You should play Blood Dragon then if you like cheesy one-liners.

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MofuggerX wrote...

You should play Blood Dragon then if you like cheesy one-liners.

I bought it when it went half price, but I still haven't gotten around to playing it past the bit I played as a demo.

Between work, ME3MP, and a few other issues I don't play as much Xbawks as I used to.<_<

One of these days I'll play it.

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Twenty hours well spent man.

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FasterThanFTL wrote...

Every kit is OP in the right hands.



This

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MofuggerX wrote...

You should play Blood Dragon then if you like cheesy one-liners.

Everyone should be playing Blood Dragon.

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the combat drone is op
that combat drone could solo a platinum game