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[von uber]

It's not the renegade part, I am usually 70/30 and she survives.

[Excella Gionne]

The only way she can die here is if:

-Cerberus Bomb goes off after post-genophage cure/sabotage

-A bug where Wrex sends you a message about the Cerberus Bomb even when Eve is still on your ship. She will still send you a message later on, but Wrex will not mention her anymore after the Genophage scenario as if she's dead when clearly she is not(This glitch happened to me).

[RangerSG]

johnnythao89 wrote...

The only way she can die here is if:

-Cerberus Bomb goes off after post-genophage cure/sabotage

-A bug where Wrex sends you a message about the Cerberus Bomb even when Eve is still on your ship. She will still send you a message later on, but Wrex will not mention her anymore after the Genophage scenario as if she's dead when clearly she is not(This glitch happened to me).

Right. If you didn't defuse the bomb, Eve will be in the valley when it goes off. That's the only other way she dies without a bug being involved. 

I've never had her die. Though I've been planning an all-out renegade fest where I do it. I'd have to kill Wrex in ME1 and do it right to play that one out.

[Mcfly616]

RangerSG wrote...

 Though I've been planning an all-out renegade fest where I do it. I'd have to kill Wrex in ME1 and do it right to play that one out.

if you really wanna go "all out", you have to be calculated. Don't just go all gung-ho pushing every Renegade option/interrupt you get.

For instance, don't kill Wrex on Virmire. Wait til ME3, sabotage the genophage and shoot Mordin in the back. Then when Wrex confronts you later on, shoot 'em up "Scarface" style. (it's brutal)



I also find low EMS Destroy as an awesomely appropriate ending. One that gels well with classic sci fi.

[Mcfly616]

When is the latest I can do the Tuchanka Bomb mission before it goes off? I've never done it with the Tali and the VS....


Also want to try Grissom Academy without Jack. I've heard from some that it's an equally good experience.

[cap and gown]

Mcfly616 wrote...

When is the latest I can do the Tuchanka Bomb mission before it goes off? I've never done it with the Tali and the VS....
 

If you don't do Turian Platoon, then you have at least until just before Thessia to do the Turian Platoon/Tuchanka Bomb duet. I have done it with Tali and the VS before and I feel it is worth doing at least once.

[themikefest]

Just curious. Are you sure you saved the data during Mordin's loyalty mission? And when you import your current character, did it mention you saved Maleon's data?

[BurningBlood]

Mcfly616 wrote...

When is the latest I can do the Tuchanka Bomb mission before it goes off? I've never done it with the Tali and the VS....

Once you've done Turian Platoon, you may do at most two missions before doing Tuchanka: Bomb.  However, you can wait to do Turian Platoon until just before Priority: Thessia.

Also want to try Grissom Academy without Jack. I've heard from some that it's an equally good experience.

In a non-import ME3 game, Jack died in the suicide mission (also Wrex died on Virmire... actually the choices made by 'default Shep' are pretty depressing).  When I did Grissom Academy in a non-import game, one of the students steps up and leads the other students in Jack's absence; I forget which one, but I think it's Rodriguez.

[CosmicGnosis]

Can Tuchanka: Bomb only fail if you have completed Turian Platoon? I think I did a playthrough where I never met Victus' son, and so the bomb mission never came up, and the bomb never exploded.

... Which doesn't make sense. Cerberus should still detonate the bomb, even if you don't know about its existence.

Modifié par CosmicGnosis, 12 février 2014 - 12:51 .

[Mcfly616]

Yup....definitely gonna try both of those once I finish my current playthrough of ME2.

[themikefest]

Rodriguez is killed without having Jack and if you do an import with Jack alive and not do Grissom she will show up on Chronos as a phantom

[themikefest]

RangerSG wrote...

I've never had her die. Though I've been planning an all-out renegade fest where I do it. I'd have to kill Wrex in ME1 and do it right to play that one out.

Don't kill Wrex on Virmire and keep Karrihe alive
Recruit Thane in ME2 and save Maleon's data
Sabotage the genophage by shooting Mordin in the back
Don't do Turian bomb mission which leads to eve dying.
Thane is killed by Kai Leng
Kill Wrex on the Citadel which will give you 0 war assets from the Krogan
On Earth you hear Kirrahe give a  speech similiar to the one on Virmire.

[RangerSG]

themikefest wrote...

RangerSG wrote...

I've never had her die. Though I've been planning an all-out renegade fest where I do it. I'd have to kill Wrex in ME1 and do it right to play that one out.

Don't kill Wrex on Virmire and keep Karrihe alive
Recruit Thane in ME2 and save Maleon's data
Sabotage the genophage by shooting Mordin in the back
Don't do Turian bomb mission which leads to eve dying.
Thane is killed by Kai Leng
Kill Wrex on the Citadel which will give you 0 war assets from the Krogan
On Earth you hear Kirrahe give a  speech similiar to the one on Virmire.

Do you get more Salarian Assets than otherwise? Because I know Hackett says they send "Their entire fleet as a thank you for saving the counselor" even if you stuff the Dalatross' offer. I've seen Kirrahe's speech on the Wikia. 0 Assets from the Krogan has to leave Primarch Victus a sad panda. 

[themikefest]

RangerSG wrote...

themikefest wrote...

RangerSG wrote...

I've never had her die. Though I've been planning an all-out renegade fest where I do it. I'd have to kill Wrex in ME1 and do it right to play that one out.

Don't kill Wrex on Virmire and keep Karrihe alive
Recruit Thane in ME2 and save Maleon's data
Sabotage the genophage by shooting Mordin in the back
Don't do Turian bomb mission which leads to eve dying.
Thane is killed by Kai Leng
Kill Wrex on the Citadel which will give you 0 war assets from the Krogan
On Earth you hear Kirrahe give a  speech similiar to the one on Virmire.

Do you get more Salarian Assets than otherwise? Because I know Hackett says they send "Their entire fleet as a thank you for saving the counselor" even if you stuff the Dalatross' offer. I've seen Kirrahe's speech on the Wikia. 0 Assets from the Krogan has to leave Primarch Victus a sad panda. 

Yes. Anytime you sabotage the genophage the Salarians will offer their fleets

[Excella Gionne]

RangerSG wrote...

johnnythao89 wrote...

The only way she can die here is if:

-Cerberus Bomb goes off after post-genophage cure/sabotage

-A bug where Wrex sends you a message about the Cerberus Bomb even when Eve is still on your ship. She will still send you a message later on, but Wrex will not mention her anymore after the Genophage scenario as if she's dead when clearly she is not(This glitch happened to me).

Right. If you didn't defuse the bomb, Eve will be in the valley when it goes off. That's the only other way she dies without a bug being involved. 

I've never had her die. Though I've been planning an all-out renegade fest where I do it. I'd have to kill Wrex in ME1 and do it right to play that one out.

The thing is is that the bomb didn't go off yet, the mission was still there. And right after I got that message, I went to go defuse it.

[JasonShepard]

CosmicGnosis wrote...

Can Tuchanka: Bomb only fail if you have completed Turian Platoon? I think I did a playthrough where I never met Victus' son, and so the bomb mission never came up, and the bomb never exploded.

... Which doesn't make sense. Cerberus should still detonate the bomb, even if you don't know about its existence.

I know I did a playthrough like that once. The bomb problem is completely ignored by the game if you don't find out about it. Presumably Victus got someone else to handle the problem when he realised you weren't going to.

It is a bit odd chatting to Victus at London, knowing that this guy asked you to look for his missing son and you never did...

[AlieK.]

The key to Eve's life or death, IMHO is the way you save Maelon's data in ME2.

 

In my first playthrough of the games, Eve died in ME3. First playthrough was witout an ME import so Wrex was dead but I did save the cure in ME2. I let Mordin save it (just in case). In ME3, Eve died and without Wrex I was then able to convince Mordin to sabotage the cure.

 

Second playthrough this time with an ME import. I saved Wrex, saved Maelon's data (just in case) this was confirmed in ME3 and still Eve died on me. I was pretty pissed because Eve was needed to stabilize the colonies.

 

Third playthrough. I noticed that in ME2 you can react 4 different ways in regard to the cure.

 

* Destroy data

* Save data just in case

* Save data to help the krogan

* Tell the genophage was the right thing to do and destroy data.

 

Third playthrough I chose the third option, save data to help krogan, finally in ME 3 Eve lived.

 

So, if you save the data just in case, Mordin just sits on the data and lets it gather dust. In ME3 he has too little time to perfect it as a result, causing Eve to die. Tell him to save the data to help the krogan, he keeps working on it, giving him an advantage when he actually needs it in ME3 and that should result in Eve surviving.

 

I hope this info helps.

 

 

[themikefest]

 

Third playthrough. I noticed that in ME2 you can react 4 different ways in regard to the cure.

 

* Destroy data

* Save data just in case

* Save data to help the krogan

* Tell the genophage was the right thing to do and destroy data.

 

Third playthrough I chose the third option, save data to help krogan, finally in ME 3 Eve lived.

 

So, if you save the data just in case, Mordin just sits on the data and lets it gather dust. In ME3 he has too little time to perfect it as a result, causing Eve to die. Tell him to save the data to help the krogan, he keeps working on it, giving him an advantage when he actually needs it in ME3 and that should result in Eve surviving.

 

 

I remember that dialogue in ME2.

 

Whether I chose to save the data just in case or to help the Krogan, Eve was always alive after I cured/sabotage the genophage. The only times Eve died is if Mordin destroy's the data or the bomb on Tuchanka exploded.

[cap and gown]

The only requirement for Eve living during the Cure mission is that the data is saved. It doesn't matter if Wrex is alive or not. And it doesn't matter which dialogue option you pick, whether upper right or upper left. I have almost always picked upper right when I want to save the data. I have saved the data with Wrex alive: Eve lived. I have saved the data with Wrex dead: Eve lived. If Eve is dying during the Cure mission and you saved the data it is a bug. Sometimes I tell Eve she is a bargaining chip. Sometimes I tell her she is the last hope for the Krogan. Makes no difference for whether she lives or dies. (Does make large changes in the dialogue with her.) I have seen pretty much every single permutation of the Cure mission and Eve lives when I want her to, she dies when I want her to.