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[General TSAR]

All LIs being playersexual is pandering as far as I'm concerned.

Modifié par General TSAR, 12 février 2014 - 12:39 .

[Cainhurst Crow]

You could have gay romances in dragon ages origins.

[Sentinel358]

rasloveszev wrote...

Sentinel358 wrote...

The problem is, a lot of people want to make characters "gay" for the sake of being equal but you have to consider that each companion has their own personality and character, sometimes being homosexual doesnt fit the persona of a certain character, same way not every party member is diverse in terms of ethnicity, just for the sake of pleasing every ethnic group

Your orientation is independent of your personality. 

Not at all, its definitely a prominent feature in both hetero and hemosexuals whether you realize it or not, its bound to show

[Grieving Natashina]

Br3ad wrote...

General TSAR wrote...

wolfhowwl wrote...

There shouldn't be any romances at all.

I must make it clear that I, Br3ad, agree with the assertation made by these two posters. That is why I am quoting them, because I agree with them. 

From Gaider himself:

Have you ever thought about making a game without romances? I personally love BioWare’s romances, especially as BW is one of the few companies that create games where I can express my sexual orientation. But has your team ever seriously considered breaking the norm? — anonymous fan question

Sometimes it’s tempting.I can easily imagine a time when the romances in Inquisition are revealed (whether that will be before or after release, I have no idea). There will be an inevitable reaction from people who are disappointed they couldn’t romance someone with their character of choice, and some of them will rant at length as to how they were only deprived of said romance because of some agenda.

We took away that romance because we’re mean, or because we’re boring and couldn’t we see that the romance they wanted would be so much more interesting? And that romance we actually put in is not only terrible but is
homophobic/biphobic/racist/pedophilia/etc., which their romance pairing would not be.Yes, at that time, the conversation of why we even bother certainly can and will come up within the team. For the most part, it’s not hard to soon remember that we bother because there are a lot of people who enjoy the romances we write very much—and if there are people who take it to an angry place, it’s probably because they passionately care. And also probably because we do sometimes make mistakes and can indeed do better.

I know some fans would be happy if we just abandoned the effort altogether. Generally those are people who don’t use that sort of content in our games anyhow, so us not pursuing it naturally wouldn’t bother them. I’ll just ignore the element who see romances as a thing that only “fangirls” like, and which is thus of lesser value to a “real game”.

To me, the thing that BioWare does best is not story but characters—I think our characters are done to a level that few other games even attempt, with an element of agency that strikes a chord in our players…and romances have been a natural outgrowth of that. Sure we could stop, but that would be turning our backs on something we do which almost no-one else does. The question would be: “why?” And what do we replace it with?It’s possible we could answer that question.

We’ve made a few games without romances before, and we could do it again. Perhaps, if we made a new IP, we might decide it’s best not to open that particular Pandora’s Box (which, yes, romances have always been) and go with something else…but that “something else” better be something damned good, as there are a lot of people who enjoy that part of our games immensely and who might not be willing to buy into a new series which didn’t have it. Some folks might be eager to write those fans off, but I’m not really sure that BioWare feels the same.

Modifié par Starsyn, 12 février 2014 - 12:41 .

[Cainhurst Crow]

General TSAR wrote...

All LIs being playersexual is pandering as far as I'm concerned.

Why do you think it's called pansexual?

[Fast Jimmy]

Darth Brotarian wrote...

General TSAR wrote...

All LIs being playersexual is pandering as far as I'm concerned.

Why do you think it's called pansexual?

Because you have sex with a cooking pan?

[OdanUrr]

Free For All.

[DRTJR]

I will never use it, a lot of people will never see the m/m romance sequences but people want it, so in this situation why not give the people what they want.

[Naesaki]

This isn't going to end well :s

[spirosz]

When I see these threads -

[Br3admax]

Starsyn wrote...
*snip*

What does any of that have to do with what I think should be? We were here when Gaider often came into threads and told us as such. You aren't educating us; we get it. Our opinions, however, remain the same and will most likely for a long time. 

[Ferretinabun]

General TSAR wrote...

Ferretinabun wrote...


... and as we all know, no heterosexual players ever play homosexual characters.

:pinched:

Maybe you didn't notice me adding the quote to put my post into context genius. 

I did, but I don't see how it helps your point.

Bioware care about giving all their customers an equal gaming experience. That's why race, sexuality and even gender aren't big issues, despite 'historical accuracy' (I know - fantasy world).

The demographics of the players shouldn't really affect that. They aren't just pandering to the majority.

[Grieving Natashina]

It's dangerous to go alone. Take this:

[Lady Lionheart]

Straight females had very restricted options.
Especially if you don't want to be involved with someone who has slept with another man, I wouldn't lay with them knowing that in real life so I won't in games either.

[Ferretinabun]

spirosz wrote...

When I see these threads -

Tee hee. Yup.

BUT HOW WE LOVE IT?!?!

:devil:

[Cainhurst Crow]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

Darth Brotarian wrote...

General TSAR wrote...

All LIs being playersexual is pandering as far as I'm concerned.

Why do you think it's called pansexual?

Because you have sex with a cooking pan?

Cooking utensils count as a gender right? I'm not remembering that wrong?

[Mr.House]

I take it the Op didn't notice you could have a same sex romance in DAO?

[spirosz]

WHY CAN'T WE JUST HAVE FRIEND OPTIONS?

[GreyLycanTrope]

I've said my thoughts on the issue way to many times to bother repeating myself.

spirosz wrote...

WHY CAN'T WE JUST HAVE FRIEND OPTIONS?

I support friendzone/forever alone options.

Modifié par Greylycantrope, 12 février 2014 - 12:45 .

[Grieving Natashina]

Br3ad wrote...

Starsyn wrote...
*snip*

What does any of that have to do with what I think should be? We were here when Gaider often came into threads and told us as such. You aren't educating us; we get it. Our opinions, however, remain the same and will most likely for a long time. 

Fair enough, no need to get defensive. I am curious as to why you think that romances are such a waste of time and resources though.   

[AresKeith]

spirosz wrote...

When I see these threads - *snip*

The last one the OP made was very tame

[spirosz]

WHAT IF I JUST WANTED TO BE FRIENDS, WHY DO WE HAVE TO HAVE THE SEXY TIME WITH EVERYTHING THAT MOVES?

[durasteel]

spirosz wrote...

Lol casual 2013 joiners.

2009>comeatme.

You're a day late, son.

[General TSAR]

spirosz wrote...

WHY CAN'T WE JUST HAVE FRIEND OPTIONS?

Yep.

Where's that one comic of Anders and M. Hawke? Someone needs to post that bastard here.