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[congokong]

starlitegirlx wrote...

congokong wrote...


Steve survives just by visiting him 3 times on the Citadel? I didn't realize that was what saved him. It's funny because I always chose renegade responses with him yet he became so attached to Shepard regardless. He's the type I'd picture joining Cerberus in ME2 if he knew Shepard in ME1. I actually really like him but Nocturnal Shepard isn't the type to go to for a shoulder to cry on; which is what he needs.

After I discovered I could save Miranda by making sure to see her the three times and give her access, I realized there must be a way to save Steve just as there was a way to Wrex and Kirrahe. That was one thing I was quick to learn with this game. There are some patterns they follow.

My current shepard is 50/50 for paragon/renegade however most of the time she will be paragon with her crew except examples like ME2 when she had to solve fights. She is always renegade there because they're acting like children and she doesn't tolerate that. This is why she really loves garrus the most. Out of all the crew, he really doesn't act like a child in situations. He just deals. He may not like something but you don't see him behaving in ways that make you want to throw him out the airlock.

So even though this shepard is darker, she values her crew. She might not be close to Liara and consdier her a dear friend, and she might not go out of her way to be best buddies with Traynor, but she values them. When I do an adepts again I will be brining Liara along more. Right now, she only comes on the missions you have to take her. My Shepard's attitude might change toward her then as well to reflect that they are a team more often because that's another thing I do. If I have squaddies that I rely on the most, I do talk with them more. James is actually a favorite these days for most classes except probably Adept. So he gets a lot of interaction time. I don't think I've done one where I'm an outright **** to everyone but I have seen a  youtube clip of femshep being a **** all through ME2 and laughed my ass off at it. It was funny as hell, but in the game, those moments are so far apart that the payoff doesn't feel the same as watching the 15 minute clip of all these great renegade comments.

My canon renegade Nocturnal Shepard always talked to her crew too. It made my reputation bar at the max not even halfway through the game. She cares about her crew but she keeps them at a distance to make losing them easier. She'll still go out of her way to help them like when she got Wrex's family armor for him. Then he turned on her on Virmire and Nocturnal was forced to kill him. Traitorous krogan bastard.

Speaking of James, I wish the game allowed you to tell him to stop flirting with you. My Shepard runs a tight ship and doesn't tolerate that from her officers. Even telling him to not all her Lola doesn't stop it. It's annoying.

I liked that bitter Shepard you made and your Shepard rant. It made me laugh. "It's called a SUICIDE MISSION, people. Clear your heads or die." lol  It's too bad you had to headcanon so much (especially in ME3) like hating the VS when they make Shepard concerned for them despite treating you like crap.

[RangerSG]

ImaginaryMatter wrote...

starlitegirlx wrote...

von uber wrote...

I'm tempted to try manshep and be a complete womanising git who gets everyone killed.
But damn, that voice...

That sounds like fun!

I wish I could tolerate male sheps voice acting. It's horrible to me and whenever I try, I feel great pain.

I like it by the time ME3 comes around, minus a few parts.

I like Femshep better for Paragon, and MaleShep better for Renegades. Jennifer's voice acting sounds better in the thoughtful scenes that go with the idealism of a Paragon, IMHO. Whereas the reactive lines of the Renegade sound better from Meer. But I agree that it's not until ME3 that I can accept his voice for a Paragon. 

[SilJeff]

I want to see the other outcomes at Rannoch. I've only seen the peace option.

I want to see racist Kaiden that a renegade Femshep can make in ME1.

I want to see Thane's, Garrus', Steve's, Traynor's, Jacob's, and Chambers' romances. I've only done Tali, Miranda, Liara, Ashley, and Kaiden romances.

I also want to see: Citadel: Party with the majority of the characters dead and keeping Chambers alive throughout 3

[congokong]

starlitegirlx wrote...

congokong wrote...

starlitegirlx wrote...

congokong wrote...


Steve survives just by visiting him 3 times on the Citadel? I didn't realize that was what saved him. It's funny because I always chose renegade responses with him yet he became so attached to Shepard regardless. He's the type I'd picture joining Cerberus in ME2 if he knew Shepard in ME1. I actually really like him but Nocturnal Shepard isn't the type to go to for a shoulder to cry on; which is what he needs.

After I discovered I could save Miranda by making sure to see her the three times and give her access, I realized there must be a way to save Steve just as there was a way to Wrex and Kirrahe. That was one thing I was quick to learn with this game. There are some patterns they follow.

My current shepard is 50/50 for paragon/renegade however most of the time she will be paragon with her crew except examples like ME2 when she had to solve fights. She is always renegade there because they're acting like children and she doesn't tolerate that. This is why she really loves garrus the most. Out of all the crew, he really doesn't act like a child in situations. He just deals. He may not like something but you don't see him behaving in ways that make you want to throw him out the airlock.

So even though this shepard is darker, she values her crew. She might not be close to Liara and consdier her a dear friend, and she might not go out of her way to be best buddies with Traynor, but she values them. When I do an adepts again I will be brining Liara along more. Right now, she only comes on the missions you have to take her. My Shepard's attitude might change toward her then as well to reflect that they are a team more often because that's another thing I do. If I have squaddies that I rely on the most, I do talk with them more. James is actually a favorite these days for most classes except probably Adept. So he gets a lot of interaction time. I don't think I've done one where I'm an outright **** to everyone but I have seen a  youtube clip of femshep being a **** all through ME2 and laughed my ass off at it. It was funny as hell, but in the game, those moments are so far apart that the payoff doesn't feel the same as watching the 15 minute clip of all these great renegade comments.

My canon renegade Nocturnal Shepard always talked to her crew too. It made my reputation bar at the max not even halfway through the game. She cares about her crew but she keeps them at a distance to make losing them easier. She'll still go out of her way to help them like when she got Wrex's family armor for him. Then he turned on her on Virmire and Nocturnal was forced to kill him. Traitorous krogan bastard.

Speaking of James, I wish the game allowed you to tell him to stop flirting with you. My Shepard runs a tight ship and doesn't tolerate that from her officers. Even telling him to not all her Lola doesn't stop it. It's annoying.

I liked that bitter Shepard you made and your Shepard rant. It made me laugh. "It's called a SUICIDE MISSION, people. Clear your heads or die." lol  It's too bad you had to headcanon so much (especially in ME3) like hating the VS when they make Shepard concerned for them despite treating you like crap.

I thought my bitter Shepard was pretty awesome. Her attitudes and beliefs make sense from her perspective and given the stuff she keeps having to deal with. All I needed to not have to headcannon the VS survivor was the option to fast forward through that scene. IMO there are way way way too many scenes that you cannot speed through. ME3 to me has too many cut scenes to begin with. There's a fine line to them. ME2 was pretty good with them. ME3 was intrusive with them. And I won't even get into those damn nightmares.Those are uber annoying.

Those scenes are tempting to skip when you think "This is not what my Shepard would say." The game does let you show your indifference to the VS later by skipping hospital visits. I'm pretty sure if you do that then you're forced to kill them. I consider it a taste of their own medicine for not visiting Shepard on earth. And no way I was wasting a 1000 credits buying Ashley poetry when she was such a ****. I did give her a bullet though.

[RangerSG]

starlitegirlx wrote...

congokong wrote...

starlitegirlx wrote...

congokong wrote...

starlitegirlx wrote...

congokong wrote...


Steve
survives just by visiting him 3 times on the Citadel? I didn't realize
that was what saved him. It's funny because I always chose renegade
responses with him yet he became so attached to Shepard regardless. He's
the type I'd picture joining Cerberus in ME2 if he knew Shepard in ME1.
I actually really like him but Nocturnal Shepard isn't the type to go
to for a shoulder to cry on; which is what he needs.

After
I discovered I could save Miranda by making sure to see her the three
times and give her access, I realized there must be a way to save Steve
just as there was a way to Wrex and Kirrahe. That was one thing I was
quick to learn with this game. There are some patterns they follow.

My
current shepard is 50/50 for paragon/renegade however most of the time
she will be paragon with her crew except examples like ME2 when she had
to solve fights. She is always renegade there because they're acting
like children and she doesn't tolerate that. This is why she really
loves garrus the most. Out of all the crew, he really doesn't act like a
child in situations. He just deals. He may not like something but you
don't see him behaving in ways that make you want to throw him out the
airlock.

So even though this shepard is darker, she values her
crew. She might not be close to Liara and consdier her a dear friend,
and she might not go out of her way to be best buddies with Traynor, but
she values them. When I do an adepts again I will be brining Liara
along more. Right now, she only comes on the missions you have to take
her. My Shepard's attitude might change toward her then as well to
reflect that they are a team more often because that's another thing I
do. If I have squaddies that I rely on the most, I do talk with them
more. James is actually a favorite these days for most classes except
probably Adept. So he gets a lot of interaction time. I don't think I've
done one where I'm an outright **** to everyone but I have seen a 
youtube clip of femshep being a **** all through ME2 and laughed my ass
off at it. It was funny as hell, but in the game, those moments are so
far apart that the payoff doesn't feel the same as watching the 15
minute clip of all these great renegade comments.

My
canon renegade Nocturnal Shepard always talked to her crew too. It made
my reputation bar at the max not even halfway through the game. She
cares about her crew but she keeps them at a distance to make losing
them easier. She'll still go out of her way to help them like when she
got Wrex's family armor for him. Then he turned on her on Virmire and
Nocturnal was forced to kill him. Traitorous krogan bastard.

Speaking
of James, I wish the game allowed you to tell him to stop flirting with
you. My Shepard runs a tight ship and doesn't tolerate that from her
officers. Even telling him to not all her Lola doesn't stop it. It's
annoying.

I liked that bitter Shepard you made and your Shepard
rant. It made me laugh. "It's called a SUICIDE MISSION, people. Clear
your heads or die." lol  It's too bad you had to headcanon so much
(especially in ME3) like hating the VS when they make Shepard concerned
for them despite treating you like crap.

I
thought my bitter Shepard was pretty awesome. Her attitudes and beliefs
make sense from her perspective and given the stuff she keeps having to
deal with. All I needed to not have to headcannon the VS survivor was
the option to fast forward through that scene. IMO there are way way way
too many scenes that you cannot speed through. ME3 to me has too many
cut scenes to begin with. There's a fine line to them. ME2 was pretty
good with them. ME3 was intrusive with them. And I won't even get into
those damn nightmares.Those are uber annoying.

Those
scenes are tempting to skip when you think "This is not what my Shepard
would say." The game does let you show your indifference to the VS later
by skipping hospital visits. I'm pretty sure if you do that then you're
forced to kill them. I consider it a taste of their own medicine for
not visiting Shepard on earth. And no way I was wasting a 1000 credits
buying Ashley poetry when she was such a ****. I did give her a bullet
though.

Actually, you can still renegade/paragon
them. I might have gone by once out of respect for the fact that they
were on my team and were hurt. But I think in one I didn't see them and
was realy horrible to them on Mars but my reputation got really high
because I did of stuff like conversations that got me rep like crazy
then all things like biotic amps (grissom and ismar frontier) rep stuff
at citadel when walking by people since I had to go there for the stores for mods anyway, and drinks
with james in the bar -  all that sort of stuff and even a few things like
book of plenix, pillars of stregth... those add up really fast. By the
time I was meeting them I had enough to renegade/paragon them. I can't
tell you how many times I told Kaidan "I might regret gunning you down
for the rest of my life..." - what a great moment that is! And I don't
think I visited him or only stopped by once. Never after Mars since
that's a waste. But later when he's conscious I did stop by and I
remember he brought up garrus and I lied so he told me to leave. And
I still could threatend to gun him down. Then he wanted to get back on
my ship. When I sent him to hackett then stopped by to see joker, joker
salutes me because he thought what kaidan just did was disrespectful.
That's a great moment.

I visited Kaiden once with a MaleShep. Didn't have anything more to say. But I paragoned him into backing down anyway. Makes me wonder if you have to 'try' to kill the VS if the Salarian lives.

[Melbella]

starlitegirlx wrote...
Then he wanted to get back on my ship. When I sent him to hackett then stopped by to see joker, joker
salutes me because he thought what kaidan just did was disrespectful.
That's a great moment.

That salute by Joker is the best reason to tell the VS to take a hike instead of shooting them. I just wish Shepard could be more angry with them during the hospital visits, especially at Kaidan for daring to ask about who Shepard may have hooked up with in 2. My Shepards always get along better with the VS in 3 if they weren't in a relationship in 1.

[RangerSG]

Melbella wrote...

starlitegirlx wrote...
Then he wanted to get back on my ship. When I sent him to hackett then stopped by to see joker, joker
salutes me because he thought what kaidan just did was disrespectful.
That's a great moment.

That salute by Joker is the best reason to tell the VS to take a hike instead of shooting them. I just wish Shepard could be more angry with them during the hospital visits, especially at Kaidan for daring to ask about who Shepard may have hooked up with in 2. My Shepards always get along better with the VS in 3 if they weren't in a relationship in 1.

I will have to do this sometime. Ash sits in the Observatory the whole time anyway. Barely use her.

[themikefest]

For those who romance T'soni, Garrus, Tali, Alenko and Ashley, don't take them on the beam run

Side with the Geth VI and watch a loyal Tali commit suicide or if she isn't in ME3 watch Raan shoot herself in the head

If you romance Kaidan/Ashley send them to Hackett after the coup

Don't do the paragon interrupt on the shuttle with Anderson

[congokong]

starlitegirlx wrote...

Actually, you can still renegade/paragon them. I might have gone by once out of respect for the fact that they
were on my team and were hurt. But I think in one I didn't see them and
was realy horrible to them on Mars but my reputation got really high
because I did of stuff like conversations that got me rep like crazy
then all things like biotic amps (grissom and ismar frontier) rep stuff
at citadel when walking by people since I had to go there for the stores for mods anyway, and drinks
with james in the bar -  all that sort of stuff and even a few things like
book of plenix, pillars of stregth... those add up really fast. By the
time I was meeting them I had enough to renegade/paragon them. I can't
tell you how many times I told Kaidan "I might regret gunning you down
for the rest of my life..." - what a great moment that is! And I don't
think I visited him or only stopped by once. Never after Mars since
that's a waste. But later when he's conscious I did stop by and I
remember he brought up garrus and I lied so he told me to leave. And
I still could threatend to gun him down. Then he wanted to get back on
my ship. When I sent him to hackett then stopped by to see joker, joker
salutes me because he thought what kaidan just did was disrespectful.
That's a great moment.

I thought if you needed to use persuasion to get them to stand down they actually refuse to rejoin the Normandy. Am I wrong? I know it can happen.

Modifié par congokong, 15 février 2014 - 11:52 .

[themikefest]

starlitegirlx wrote...

themikefest wrote...

For those who romance T'soni, Garrus, Tali, Alenko and Ashley, don't take them on the beam run

Side with the Geth VI and watch a loyal Tali commit suicide or if she isn't in ME3 watch Raan shoot herself in the head

If you romance Kaidan/Ashley send them to Hackett after the coup

Don't do the paragon interrupt on the shuttle with Anderson

What happens if you don't take your LI on the beam run? I always pick Garrus and he's been one I have been taking all the time. He's my no.1.

Did side with the geth and watched both suicides. Sided with quarians and had legion attack and try to kill me (which kind of made me want to kill the geth in the next game- which I did).

For those who romance those characters they will miss out on the evacuation scene with their LI.

[themikefest]

If you don't talk with Ashley/Kaidan at all at the hospital they will not join you on the Normandy at all even if you convince them to stand down during the coup and if the Salarian Councillor is killed and you shoot Udina.

If you talk with them three times at the hospital(give the booze or poem book), you can still shoot them even if the Salarian councillor survives. If you convince them to stand down and shoot Udina they will ask permission to come aboard. For that to happen you have to paragon all conversations at the hospital If you renegade all conversations and shoot Udina(or they do) you have to use paragon to get them back on the ship

[themikefest]

StreetMagic wrote...

I've never seen any evac scenes (romance Jack or Miranda). I like keeping EDI and Javik around anyways.

I always take Ashley and James since Traynor is on the ship.

[themikefest]

StreetMagic wrote...

themikefest wrote...

StreetMagic wrote...

I've never seen any evac scenes (romance Jack or Miranda). I like keeping EDI and Javik around anyways.

I always take Ashley and James since Traynor is on the ship.

I tried that once. It didn't turn out as cool as I thought. I had this whole idea to be very human and soldier heavy... but.. I really don't know how to place Ashley outside a romance. Plus, her marksman skill is borked.

What I do with her marksman is not to put any points towards it.

[MrFob]

Hmmm, there are a few decisions, I haven't tried yet but here is one thing I really want to do:
Try the trilogy in other languages.
I know most of the dialogue very well by now, especially for ME1 and 2. Would be fun to see it in German or French, maybe Italian as well. I may not get everything they say with my limited knowladge of the language, plus my pre-knowladge of the dialogue, I should get most of it and I think it would be interesting to see how the game was translated. Most importantly, I think it would be a really fresh and new experience.

[congokong]

themikefest wrote...

If you don't talk with Ashley/Kaidan at all at the hospital they will not join you on the Normandy at all even if you convince them to stand down during the coup and if the Salarian Councillor is killed and you shoot Udina.

If you talk with them three times at the hospital(give the booze or poem book), you can still shoot them even if the Salarian councillor survives. If you convince them to stand down and shoot Udina they will ask permission to come aboard. For that to happen you have to paragon all conversations at the hospital If you renegade all conversations and shoot Udina(or they do) you have to use paragon to get them back on the ship

I like how the games give you the choice to still shoot characters even if you do everything that could prevent it. Ex: I still shot Wrex even after doing his family armor quest. Never lower your weapon on an angry krogan. lol

That's interesting. So there isn't a paragon persuasion to get them to join if you didn't visit them in the hospital? In my first playthrough I missed a hospital visit because I didn't know what I was doing and if I remember correctly Kaidan refused to join me without any persuasion option to get him to reconsider. You'd think they'd be understanding about skipping hospital visits with Shepard being busy saving the galaxy and all. It's not like they visited Shepard in those 6 month on earth.

I visited Ash 3 times because I talked to everybody but I wouldn't waste credits on poetry.  I ended up shooting her anyway even though I had the reputation to not have to. It makes for a good story, you know? First Kaidan dies; then Ashley joins him. It makes Horizon a foreshadowing. And it amplifies the damage of Udina's coup. Then the crew comments afterwards are great. Joker is like WTF was wrong with Ashley?!

Modifié par congokong, 16 février 2014 - 02:40 .