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[David Diablo]

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

IamZAE wrote...

Wat yall think is better? Laptop or desktop?

For gaming, desktop, hands down.


Laptops are inherently inferiour in peak performance due to their structural limitations. And whilst there are really powerful laptops around to buy, their performance-to-price ratio is abysmal.


Unless you are literally on move almost the entire time, a desktop PC will be better. And if push comes to shove and you do move around from one location to the next a lot, unless you only have time to play whilst actually being on the move, it's still cheaper to build an ITX format PC and take it alongside a small monitor with you in a wellpadded case.

My .02 dollars

But laptops are cooler and it's nice to be able to move AWAY from people if you have family bugging you when you need to focus. If you have the cash (and Zae does), splash it on a pricey laptop. Although Neo makes a great point about the performance-to-price ratio...

[The One True Crash]

David Diablo wrote...

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

IamZAE wrote...

Wat yall think is better? Laptop or desktop?

For gaming, desktop, hands down.


Laptops are inherently inferiour in peak performance due to their structural limitations. And whilst there are really powerful laptops around to buy, their performance-to-price ratio is abysmal.


Unless you are literally on move almost the entire time, a desktop PC will be better. And if push comes to shove and you do move around from one location to the next a lot, unless you only have time to play whilst actually being on the move, it's still cheaper to build an ITX format PC and take it alongside a small monitor with you in a wellpadded case.

My .02 dollars

But laptops are cooler and it's nice to be able to move AWAY from people if you have family bugging you when you need to focus. If you have the cash (and Zae does), splash it on a pricey laptop. Although Neo makes a great point about the performance-to-price ratio...

Except it is way cheaper and easier to upgrade a desktop than a laptop.

Get a desktop Zae, don't be a noob.

[Alfonsedode]

I ll go for multiscreen (3 or 6) if i were U

[chcknwng]

Desktop hands down. But how can one say no to this



For that kind of money, I'm thinking on desktop you can get a GPU that is close to 2x as powerful.

[Wadmaasi]

 www.logicalincrements.com

[Chealec]

1: Go for desktop - more bang for buck.

2: Don't skimp on mobo, CPU, PSU or case (if you're not gonna build it yourself, get a custom build) - adds lifetime to the machine as you can upgrade pretty much everything else every couple of years relatively pain free.

3: Intel have the edge over ATI for the CPU currently.

4: At the moment Nvidia cards have the edge over ATI for gaming and they're generally better value for money - you can get a GTX 760 (a perfectly reasonable card) for really not very much money now.

5: Crucial make arguably the best value RAM, really well specced for the money though Corsair is good as well.

[IamZAE]

Well heres the deal from my pov.. i understand deskops have the physical capacity to be powerful.. but im a tad bit getting weird of all the wires. The dusty computer. The space it takes up. Im thinkin of a laptop because i can play it anywhere..

Can laptops give me 100+ fps performance aswell?

Its all about convience in this day and age. What yall think?

[David Diablo]

CrashUrStox wrote...

David Diablo wrote...

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

IamZAE wrote...

Wat yall think is better? Laptop or desktop?

For gaming, desktop, hands down.


Laptops are inherently inferiour in peak performance due to their structural limitations. And whilst there are really powerful laptops around to buy, their performance-to-price ratio is abysmal.


Unless you are literally on move almost the entire time, a desktop PC will be better. And if push comes to shove and you do move around from one location to the next a lot, unless you only have time to play whilst actually being on the move, it's still cheaper to build an ITX format PC and take it alongside a small monitor with you in a wellpadded case.

My .02 dollars

But laptops are cooler and it's nice to be able to move AWAY from people if you have family bugging you when you need to focus. If you have the cash (and Zae does), splash it on a pricey laptop. Although Neo makes a great point about the performance-to-price ratio...

Except it is way cheaper and easier to upgrade a desktop than a laptop.

Get a desktop Zae, don't be a noob.

True, but not everyone has the knowledge or time to invest in upgrading. Of course, you could pay someone to do it for you and show you how to use it, but I've found laptops to be more versatile for other things away from gaming. Although, Neo is right about smaller PCs being a better choice than laptops.

Either way, if you're going to use it JUST for gaming, go for a desktop. But I still like the versatility for other things a laptop brings. But again, you could just have the best of both worlds if you have the cash to splash I suppose...

[The One True Crash]

David Diablo wrote...

CrashUrStox wrote...

David Diablo wrote...

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

IamZAE wrote...

Wat yall think is better? Laptop or desktop?

For gaming, desktop, hands down.


Laptops are inherently inferiour in peak performance due to their structural limitations. And whilst there are really powerful laptops around to buy, their performance-to-price ratio is abysmal.


Unless you are literally on move almost the entire time, a desktop PC will be better. And if push comes to shove and you do move around from one location to the next a lot, unless you only have time to play whilst actually being on the move, it's still cheaper to build an ITX format PC and take it alongside a small monitor with you in a wellpadded case.

My .02 dollars

But laptops are cooler and it's nice to be able to move AWAY from people if you have family bugging you when you need to focus. If you have the cash (and Zae does), splash it on a pricey laptop. Although Neo makes a great point about the performance-to-price ratio...

Except it is way cheaper and easier to upgrade a desktop than a laptop.

Get a desktop Zae, don't be a noob.

True, but not everyone has the knowledge or time to invest in upgrading. Of course, you could pay someone to do it for you and show you how to use it, but I've found laptops to be more versatile for other things away from gaming. Although, Neo is right about smaller PCs being a better choice than laptops.

Either way, if you're going to use it JUST for gaming, go for a desktop. But I still like the versatility for other things a laptop brings. But again, you could just have the best of both worlds if you have the cash to splash I suppose...

1000 dollar desktop, 500 dollar tablet, 400 dollar ps4...

[IamZAE]

What about solid state drives? Do any of yall have solid states on ur computer? Does it work well? I bet yall can buy store packs much faster

[David Diablo]

CrashUrStox wrote...

David Diablo wrote...

CrashUrStox wrote...

David Diablo wrote...

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

IamZAE wrote...

Wat yall think is better? Laptop or desktop?

For gaming, desktop, hands down.


Laptops are inherently inferiour in peak performance due to their structural limitations. And whilst there are really powerful laptops around to buy, their performance-to-price ratio is abysmal.


Unless you are literally on move almost the entire time, a desktop PC will be better. And if push comes to shove and you do move around from one location to the next a lot, unless you only have time to play whilst actually being on the move, it's still cheaper to build an ITX format PC and take it alongside a small monitor with you in a wellpadded case.

My .02 dollars

But laptops are cooler and it's nice to be able to move AWAY from people if you have family bugging you when you need to focus. If you have the cash (and Zae does), splash it on a pricey laptop. Although Neo makes a great point about the performance-to-price ratio...

Except it is way cheaper and easier to upgrade a desktop than a laptop.

Get a desktop Zae, don't be a noob.

True, but not everyone has the knowledge or time to invest in upgrading. Of course, you could pay someone to do it for you and show you how to use it, but I've found laptops to be more versatile for other things away from gaming. Although, Neo is right about smaller PCs being a better choice than laptops.

Either way, if you're going to use it JUST for gaming, go for a desktop. But I still like the versatility for other things a laptop brings. But again, you could just have the best of both worlds if you have the cash to splash I suppose...

1000 dollar desktop, 500 dollar tablet, 400 dollar ps4...

No love for the Xbone? 

[The One True Crash]

David Diablo wrote...

CrashUrStox wrote...

David Diablo wrote...

CrashUrStox wrote...

David Diablo wrote...

Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

IamZAE wrote...

Wat yall think is better? Laptop or desktop?

For gaming, desktop, hands down.


Laptops are inherently inferiour in peak performance due to their structural limitations. And whilst there are really powerful laptops around to buy, their performance-to-price ratio is abysmal.


Unless you are literally on move almost the entire time, a desktop PC will be better. And if push comes to shove and you do move around from one location to the next a lot, unless you only have time to play whilst actually being on the move, it's still cheaper to build an ITX format PC and take it alongside a small monitor with you in a wellpadded case.

My .02 dollars

But laptops are cooler and it's nice to be able to move AWAY from people if you have family bugging you when you need to focus. If you have the cash (and Zae does), splash it on a pricey laptop. Although Neo makes a great point about the performance-to-price ratio...

Except it is way cheaper and easier to upgrade a desktop than a laptop.

Get a desktop Zae, don't be a noob.

True, but not everyone has the knowledge or time to invest in upgrading. Of course, you could pay someone to do it for you and show you how to use it, but I've found laptops to be more versatile for other things away from gaming. Although, Neo is right about smaller PCs being a better choice than laptops.

Either way, if you're going to use it JUST for gaming, go for a desktop. But I still like the versatility for other things a laptop brings. But again, you could just have the best of both worlds if you have the cash to splash I suppose...

1000 dollar desktop, 500 dollar tablet, 400 dollar ps4...

No love for the Xbone? 

Nah, I'm good. I like em both but the PS4 is 100 bucks cheaper soooo...

[Chealec]

IamZAE wrote...

Well heres the deal from my pov.. i understand deskops have the physical capacity to be powerful.. but im a tad bit getting weird of all the wires. The dusty computer. The space it takes up. Im thinkin of a laptop because i can play it anywhere..

Can laptops give me 100+ fps performance aswell?

Its all about convience in this day and age. What yall think?

Yes - if you're prepared to sink the cash into it you'll get a really well specced laptop... you'd only need to get a half decent gaming mouse then. Though, as Neofilis pointed out - odds are the laptop monitor wouldn't be able to push that frame rate. I've yet to see a really good monitor in a laptop - never one that could touch an iPad weirdly.

The downsides are the price, the smaller (worse quality) monitor, the lack of upgradability, and the fact that they only have 1 HDD so you couldn't, for instance, put in an SSD for Windows (really fast boot times) and a standard HDD for everything else (far larger capacity - and with the frequent Steam sales, you'll need the capacity!)... but if you want something compact, tidy and portable and aren't arsed about those things - then yeah, you can get a decent gaming laptop for the amount your prepared to pay.

Remember, so many games are made to be ported between PCs and consoles now that as long as your PC is better specced than the current gen consoles (which it always will be), you'll have very few problems running most of the latest games.



The other alternative, of course, is to get a desktop and a tablet... best of both worlds since you get a better machine for gaming and a better portable machine for browsing the web, checking into BSN or watching videos of cats on YouTube...

Modifié par Chealec, 12 février 2014 - 11:35 .

[Evil]

IamZAE wrote...

What about solid state drives? Do any of yall have solid states on ur computer? Does it work well? I bet yall can buy store packs much faster

Solid state is good stuff, but damn expensive at the moment, if you look at it from a £/$ per gig of storage viewpoint.

Solid state is best for speed, low heat generation, low energy use and low noise generation, but normal hard drives are better for storing lots of data economically.

If you get a desktop, I'd say get one big hard-drive for low priority stuff such as videos, photos, etc, and a SSD for the high prioity stuff such as the OS and your most frquently used software/games.

[IamZAE]

Evil Mastered wrote...

IamZAE wrote...

What about solid state drives? Do any of yall have solid states on ur computer? Does it work well? I bet yall can buy store packs much faster

Solid state is good stuff, but damn expensive at the moment, if you look at it from a £/$ per gig of storage viewpoint.

Solid state is best for speed, low heat generation, low energy use and low noise generation, but normal hard drives are better for storing lots of data economically.

If you get a desktop, I'd say get one big hard-drive for low priority stuff such as videos, photos, etc, and a SSD for the high prioity stuff such as the OS and your most frquently used software/games.

I dont need much drive space since imma only game with few games.   Mass effect, LoL, and starcraft
I want a solid state! I wanna go hard in the paint

[The One True Crash]

IamZAE wrote...

Evil Mastered wrote...

IamZAE wrote...

What about solid state drives? Do any of yall have solid states on ur computer? Does it work well? I bet yall can buy store packs much faster

Solid state is good stuff, but damn expensive at the moment, if you look at it from a £/$ per gig of storage viewpoint.

Solid state is best for speed, low heat generation, low energy use and low noise generation, but normal hard drives are better for storing lots of data economically.

If you get a desktop, I'd say get one big hard-drive for low priority stuff such as videos, photos, etc, and a SSD for the high prioity stuff such as the OS and your most frquently used software/games.

I dont need much drive space since imma only game with few games.   Mass effect, LoL, and starcraft
I want a solid state! I wanna go hard in the paint

Zae get an SSD AND an HDD, best of both worlds man. 

[Chealec]

Evil Mastered wrote...

IamZAE wrote...

What about solid state drives? Do any of yall have solid states on ur computer? Does it work well? I bet yall can buy store packs much faster

Solid state is good stuff, but damn expensive at the moment, if you look at it from a £/$ per gig of storage viewpoint.

Solid state is best for speed, low heat generation, low energy use and low noise generation, but normal hard drives are better for storing lots of data economically.

If you get a desktop, I'd say get one big hard-drive for low priority stuff such as videos, photos, etc, and a SSD for the high prioity stuff such as the OS and your most frquently used software/games.

Totally off-topic, but +100 intawebs for having a link to "Voltaire" in your sig.


Back on-topic, I'm not sure how much of a problem this will be, but there is a limit to the number of write operations an SSD can perform before it'll clap out so I'm not entirely sure how long the lifetime is... I've had no problems in about a year so far but that's all I can say on the matter. May well last as long as a regular HDD.

There's one other small issue with SSDs, it's virtually impossible to completely wipe data from them so if you've got your internet banking login or other senstive information stored on your PC, then when it comes to upgrading you're best off taking a hammer to the old SSD rather then selling the PC on.

[chcknwng]

Chealec wrote...

IamZAE wrote...

Well heres the deal from my pov.. i understand deskops have the physical capacity to be powerful.. but im a tad bit getting weird of all the wires. The dusty computer. The space it takes up. Im thinkin of a laptop because i can play it anywhere..

Can laptops give me 100+ fps performance aswell?

Its all about convience in this day and age. What yall think?

Yes - if you're prepared to sink the cash into it you'll get a really well specced laptop... you'd only need to get a half decent gaming mouse then. Though, as Neofilis pointed out - odds are the laptop monitor wouldn't be able to push that frame rate. I've yet to see a really good monitor in a laptop - never one that could touch an iPad weirdly.

The downsides are the price, the smaller (worse quality) monitor, the lack of upgradability, and the fact that they only have 1 HDD so you couldn't, for instance, put in an SSD for Windows (really fast boot times) and a standard HDD for everything else (far larger capacity - and with the frequent Steam sales, you'll need the capacity!)... but if you want something compact, tidy and portable and aren't arsed about those things - then yeah, you can get a decent gaming laptop for the amount your prepared to pay.

Remember, so many games are made to be ported between PCs and consoles now that as long as your PC is better specced than the current gen consoles (which it always will be), you'll have very few problems running most of the latest games.



The other alternative, of course, is to get a desktop and a tablet... best of both worlds since you get a better machine for gaming and a better portable machine for browsing the web, checking into BSN or watching videos of cats on YouTube...

You could.

On my thinkpad I swapped dvd drive for an extra HDD bay and put SSD inside the laptop, and HDD in the ultrabay. On my new one I did the same, but the laptop comes with 2 mSATA slots as well. So you could even have a RAID 1 setup. It's just I don't want to spend more money on a new mSATA so I got another HDD bay to put the HDD, and stick my old SSD into the laptop. Actually lots of laptop nowadays, especially gaming ones have an extra internal mSATA or 2.5 SSD spot.

[eighteighty]

SSD are awesome. I have a Macbook with quad core i7 2.6ghz and I added a 512GB SSD after I got the thing - WAY big difference. I can open every application on my laptop in under 10 seconds. And I'm talking about several Audio workstations, Photoshop, Premier, etc. All of them.

[Gr1ng0]

I play on a laptop and don't seem to have any issues. It's definitely nice to not have loads of cables and kit - have too much of that bs at work anyway.

It's also enjoyable to be able to take it away places and have games to hand. And most phones, when in coverage are decent wifi hotspots (in some countries anyway)

[chcknwng]

Chealec wrote...


Back on-topic, I'm not sure how much of a problem this will be, but there is a limit to the number of write operations an SSD can perform before it'll clap out so I'm not entirely sure how long the lifetime is... I've had no problems in about a year so far but that's all I can say on the matter. May well last as long as a regular HDD.

There's one other small issue with SSDs, it's virtually impossible to completely wipe data from them so if you've got your internet banking login or other senstive information stored on your PC, then when it comes to upgrading you're best off taking a hammer to the old SSD rather then selling the PC on.

It is limited, but from what I read the number of read/write is so large that unless you don't plan on upgrading your hard drives, you don't have to worry about it breaking down. Anyhow still when installing Ubuntu I got /home (= data) and /tmp on HDD. I'd prefer to install games on SSD too. The way I see it, SSDs are getting cheaper and cheaper, and the increased performance is really worth the money.

[JaqueNorris]

SSD is Awesome but i'm using it just for the Windows Booting and for some Open World Games like Skyrim. In both cases it makes a HUGE Difference compared to a HDD.

Modifié par JaqueNorris, 12 février 2014 - 11:58 .

[Evil]

Chealec wrote...

There's one other small issue with SSDs, it's virtually impossible to completely wipe data from them so if you've got your internet banking login or other senstive information stored on your PC, then when it comes to upgrading you're best off taking a hammer to the old SSD rather then selling the PC on.

Thats an issue with any data storage, not just SSD's.

"Deleting" information only removes the marking that identify what the data is and tells the computer not to use that part of the drive for anything else, it's actually still there on the storage until it's overwritten with new data.

There are actually data recovery companies that take advantage of this, specialising in retrieving "deleted" data for people and companies.

To be honest, I always smash the data storage from my old electronics, better safe than sorry.

Plus I like smashing things.

I hear that there's software to fix that issue for people that don't want to do that though, it basically overwrites the entire hard drive (bar the parts marked as "in use") with a bunch of random 0's and 1's. I've never used it though, so I can's speak for it's effectiveness.