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#76
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KaiserShep wrote...

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I prefer all new companions, but we're already stuck with Varric and Cassandra. Hopefully that will be all, but the art points to Cullen as a companion. I like Cullen but he had his day.


To be fair, Cassandra would be an all new companion anyway. We only get her interrogator face. I'd like to see how her character develops for the next story, and that isn't really in the cards unless she's following the PC around. As for Cullen, I'm more interested in the circumstances that makes him a companion at all.


I should have been more clear, I prefer "all-new characters as companions" Cassandra was already a big part of DA2 as well as having her own movie. Having returning characters as companions is boring to me, and has in the past changed those character's personalities (Oghren, Anders, Merrill) if they're going to do that, why not make someone new that isn't restricted by an existing past? It also makes me feel like the world is very small. My disapproval has no point though since we're already getting 2-3+ returning characters and though to me that is way too many, it's already set. :(

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Chirs, let's be real. This is BioWare we're talking about. The same people who don't make a set canon for anything that they've personally made. The same people who make fanservice into a selling pitch or even some talk about equality, no matter how cleverly it's disguised. They're going to do their best to please just about everyone, regardless of how they may personally feel about something. 

Gaider has before that they can't please everyone and we already know that so there's really no argument there. But obviously they are gonna try and appeal to as many people as possible and there's nothing inherently wrong with that. They can remove the import system while still trying to please more people. I'm already aware of the ludicrous import system being nothing more than a gimmick -- What's important is the illusion of choices, which I think a game like say the Witcher 2 does pretty well. Something to tell ourselves that we have made an impact, in some way, and if they can do that and at least keep up the illusion. Then that's enough. No developer can be excused of doubt from me. I'm always cautiously optimistic but what Inquisition has shown so far shows promise so that's enough to go on for now but not quite a sell yet. 

It's kinda hard to say Witcher 2 gives you the illusion of choice with at least one choice when the second act is completely changed (and the third one to a fair point) with an entirely different setting depending on what you chose unless we're saying everything in the game is an illusion because it's a game and everything's tied to game mechanics.

It's to be understood as an "illusion of having a choice" that is to say if I make this choice then this will happen, if I choose to expose this guy then that might affect this and that etc. Your description is not exactly what I remember from my experience, but I'd rather not derail this discussion any longer.

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TheChris92 wrote...

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Chirs, let's be real. This is BioWare we're talking about. The same people who don't make a set canon for anything that they've personally made. The same people who make fanservice into a selling pitch or even some talk about equality, no matter how cleverly it's disguised. They're going to do their best to please just about everyone, regardless of how they may personally feel about something. 

Gaider has before that they can't please everyone and we already know that so there's really no argument there. But obviously they are gonna try and appeal to as many people as possible and there's nothing inherently wrong with that. They can remove the import system while still trying to please more people. I'm already aware of the ludicrous import system being nothing more than a gimmick -- What's important is the illusion of choices, which I think a game like say the Witcher 2 does pretty well. Something to tell ourselves that we have made an impact, in some way, and if they can do that and at least keep up the illusion. Then that's enough. No developer can be excused of doubt from me. I'm always cautiously optimistic but what Inquisition has shown so far shows promise so that's enough to go on for now but not quite a sell yet. 

Yes, yes, that doesn't mean they won't try. Things like race options were added back into the game simply because BioWare was trying to please the fans. They didn't do that because of the RPibility that it added. They did it simply to please others with some mockery of choice. They'll most likely continue to do this. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but none the less. And the Wtcher is hardly a good example of choices mattering throughout a series, considering they took the first game and made it irrelevant, right down to the smallest details. Anyone could claim that choices matter in the same game. It's onward that matters. 

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I can't wait to romance Cullen.

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KaiserShep wrote...

Oh wouldn't it be something if Cullen was married by the time the DA:I story begins.

He can just get a Skyrim divorce. 

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Nefla wrote...

KaiserShep wrote...

Nefla wrote...

I prefer all new companions, but we're already stuck with Varric and Cassandra. Hopefully that will be all, but the art points to Cullen as a companion. I like Cullen but he had his day.


To be fair, Cassandra would be an all new companion anyway. We only get her interrogator face. I'd like to see how her character develops for the next story, and that isn't really in the cards unless she's following the PC around. As for Cullen, I'm more interested in the circumstances that makes him a companion at all.


I should have been more clear, I prefer "all-new characters as companions" Cassandra was already a big part of DA2 as well as having her own movie. Having returning characters as companions is boring to me, and has in the past changed those character's personalities (Oghren, Anders, Merrill) if they're going to do that, why not make someone new that isn't restricted by an existing past? It also makes me feel like the world is very small. My disapproval has no point though since we're already getting 2-3+ returning characters and though to me that is way too many, it's already set. :(


I don't agree at all. sure I will be annoyed if more than half the party is returning characters but you need some just to help from a story point of view. 

They can't just keep adding ten or so new characters every game and forgetting about the past one's the story would be a complete mess. 

How was Ogren's personality changed? While I agree that Anders and Merrill were done badly it's really just another problem with DA2 besides Merril never had much of a character before so it doesn't matter to me that much. 

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happy_daiz wrote...

Well, if he does show up as a companion and LI, I'll be right there with you. Image IPB

But I'm not holding my breath.


^ This. I very much hope Cullen will return, at least as a companion, whether romanceable or not. But until BioWare releases the game, it's all just hope and speculation. ;)

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 Cullypie! YES YES! *squee* :wub::wub::wub:


   <3<3    <3<3
<3        <3        <3
     <3            <3
              <3

Modifié par Parmida, 13 février 2014 - 07:13 .


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Nefla wrote...

KaiserShep wrote...

Nefla wrote...

I prefer all new companions, but we're already stuck with Varric and Cassandra. Hopefully that will be all, but the art points to Cullen as a companion. I like Cullen but he had his day.


To be fair, Cassandra would be an all new companion anyway. We only get her interrogator face. I'd like to see how her character develops for the next story, and that isn't really in the cards unless she's following the PC around. As for Cullen, I'm more interested in the circumstances that makes him a companion at all.


I should have been more clear, I prefer "all-new characters as companions" Cassandra was already a big part of DA2 as well as having her own movie. Having returning characters as companions is boring to me, and has in the past changed those character's personalities (Oghren, Anders, Merrill) if they're going to do that, why not make someone new that isn't restricted by an existing past? It also makes me feel like the world is very small. My disapproval has no point though since we're already getting 2-3+ returning characters and though to me that is way too many, it's already set. :(


The extent of Cassandra's role in DA2 was to give Varric a reason to tell Hawke's story, and little beyond that. For those of us who didn't watch the movie (I haven't), there isn't much else to go on. Personally I don't really pay much attention to either the comics or movies. I focus primarily on the characters in the games themselves. Regarding personality changes, I'll give you Anders, but Oghren was the same drunken dwarf I remember from Origins. Merrill wasn't much of a character to really remember. The big change that does stand out to me with her is the change of voice and accent. Other than that, she didn't exhibit much of a personality that DA2 could even make changes to.

Modifié par KaiserShep, 13 février 2014 - 07:36 .


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I'd love to see Cullen as a companion,I don't really care if he is romanceable (Not that I would mind if he was...) I'm also curious about what became of him after DA2 (especially if Hawke was a mage) and his insight on the templar-mage war,now that he has seen that both sides are corruptible.

Modifié par Lorien19, 13 février 2014 - 07:43 .


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I'd laugh if they made him a male only romance like Steve from Mass Effect. That would be good; just to see the reactions of all the crushed fangirls.

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I'm bad at romances but will give Cullen a shot for my female inquisitor.

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I hope the people that want to romance him get to. I'm pretty indifferent.

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I hope the people that want to romance him get to. I'm pretty indifferent.


This.  Played both games and still don't get the appeal about him, bt then again he kind of annoyed me.

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ME_Fan wrote...

I'd laugh if they made him a male only romance like Steve from Mass Effect. That would be good; just to see the reactions of all the crushed fangirls.


I'd totally be down for that!
;)

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Cullen is sort of cute...And he is or rather when last presented at least a half decent and competent Templar.

No objection to having him as a subject of mating with the Inquisitor.

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Br3ad wrote...

TheChris92 wrote...

Br3ad wrote...

Chirs, let's be real. This is BioWare we're talking about. The same people who don't make a set canon for anything that they've personally made. The same people who make fanservice into a selling pitch or even some talk about equality, no matter how cleverly it's disguised. They're going to do their best to please just about everyone, regardless of how they may personally feel about something. 

Gaider has before that they can't please everyone and we already know that so there's really no argument there. But obviously they are gonna try and appeal to as many people as possible and there's nothing inherently wrong with that. They can remove the import system while still trying to please more people. I'm already aware of the ludicrous import system being nothing more than a gimmick -- What's important is the illusion of choices, which I think a game like say the Witcher 2 does pretty well. Something to tell ourselves that we have made an impact, in some way, and if they can do that and at least keep up the illusion. Then that's enough. No developer can be excused of doubt from me. I'm always cautiously optimistic but what Inquisition has shown so far shows promise so that's enough to go on for now but not quite a sell yet. 

Yes, yes, that doesn't mean they won't try. Things like race options were added back into the game simply because BioWare was trying to please the fans. They didn't do that because of the RPibility that it added. They did it simply to please others with some mockery of choice. They'll most likely continue to do this. Which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but none the less. And the Wtcher is hardly a good example of choices mattering throughout a series, considering they took the first game and made it irrelevant, right down to the smallest details. Anyone could claim that choices matter in the same game. It's onward that matters. 

I don't think you quite understand what I'm trying to say, which I can tell from your very first sentence - I'll try again - Because I just told you that "OF COURSE THEY WILL TRY TO APPEAL TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE" get it now?! I used Witcher 2 as an example for a game that has choices that leads to different outcomes in-game, like say not choosing to fight whatshisface at the end, or not doing this and that -- Sure, these choices might not all be acknowledged in the next game, and the ones from Witcher 1 probably didn't have an effect on Witcher 2 either but that doesn't mean they don't matter. Because isn't broken until the game flat out tells you that it'll ignore that you did this and that with a canon of its own.. you know -- Like ME3 did. And no, it's not a question of whether or not the choices will have some form of effect on the next game. It's about the impact they bring on the game itself, and on us, why the else would we play Planescape Torment and all the other old-school RPGs that don't even have a sequel? Do you think they've got imported choices?!... That's right. They do not. We don't sit on our asses, when we play Cyberpunk 2077 (whenever it releases) and wonder what effect it'll have on the sequel, we think about the impact of the choices we make -- And if we are very luck we just might get an epilogue that alludes to consequences for these choices. Or if we've been extra special good, then we'll actually see the effect the choices have made on our game. Take New Vegas as an example with the choice made in the last DLC having an effect on the overall wasteland.

Modifié par TheChris92, 13 février 2014 - 09:09 .


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 Sorry, could not resist:

David Gaider wrote...
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There have been way more threads complaining about fans asking for Cullen than there have ever been threads asking for Cullen...and the threads asking for Cullen are generally the same sort of wistful "wouldn't it be nice if...?" discussions that come up about every other sort of thing that people talk about here in absence of real game info.

Quite frankly, if there ever was a group of fans who I (or anyone else on the DA team) would include something justto make them happy, I think we'd lean more towards the "polite but enthusiastic" than not. Just saying.

 

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happy_daiz wrote...


I would love to see Charade Amell, but hopefully by now, she's learned how to apply makeup, and has a better haircut.


IKR! her look was tragic.

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SilverMoonDragon wrote...

Phoenixalex wrote...

I am pretty sure Cullen will be back squee~ :wub:
who else is looking forward to charm the pants off the sexy templar?
My elf mage is ready.


*jumps up and down* I am I am! :D:devil::P And certainly, if he does turn out to be a companion and romanceable...I'm definitely going to be a Mage, could make for some interesting situations ;):wub:


Let's form a prayer circle, I need the ust that will come with my mage romance, oh the possibilities . . .
I can't wait for him to smite my naughty mage :innocent:

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I would take Dragon Age 2 area variety, with ME3 original endings and the Mako controls from ME1 for overall usability and still be happy with the DA:I if Cullen was a romance option.

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Mistress9Nine wrote...

I would take Dragon Age 2 area variety, with ME3 original endings and the Mako controls from ME1 for overall usability and still be happy with the DA:I if Cullen was a romance option.


:lol: just wow! I'd prefer all new LI's myself, but now I kind of hope you get your Cullen romance just for this statement. This is true determination.

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:lol: just wow! I'd prefer all new LI's myself, but now I kind of hope you get your Cullen romance just for this statement. This is true determination.

You could say I'm sort of a fan. Image IPB

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Cullen as a romance option...I would not argue having the option if available.

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Love Cullen? Can't stop talking about him? Can't wait to romance him?

There's a thread for that.

http://social.biowar...ex/8201931/2907

Enjoy!

As some of the fans have stated: Come for the Cullen, Stay for the Crazy.