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 New races, new sights, new everything. Plus it would be tainted by the strange endings of the third game. Make it happen Joker (BW).

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They are not going to do that. First of all creating a game like this without humanity at all is doubtful. Second while it might be an interesting concept it would mean creating literally a new set of almost everything and that is rather wasteful.

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But then they won't be able to cut out the prothean and sell him as DLC

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Height of the prothean empire? So no humans, no asari, no salarians.

The reason I am totally not in favour of a sequel of any sort is that I all ready know how it will all end and it will end badly for me no matter what I do in the game or games before the ME Shepard series. I would hate and prequel for this game series.

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Beerfish wrote...

Height of the prothean empire? So no humans, no asari, no salarians.

The reason I am totally not in favour of a sequel of any sort is that I all ready know how it will all end and it will end badly for me no matter what I do in the game or games before the ME Shepard series. I would hate and prequel for this game series.

How good could a sequel be? With the endings they will likely have to choose one that is canonical and then get stuck with that one. Something in the distant future perhaps. Either way, BW kind of screwed itself in this manner.

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Stardusk wrote...

Beerfish wrote...

Height of the prothean empire? So no humans, no asari, no salarians.

The reason I am totally not in favour of a sequel of any sort is that I all ready know how it will all end and it will end badly for me no matter what I do in the game or games before the ME Shepard series. I would hate and prequel for this game series.

How good could a sequel be? With the endings they will likely have to choose one that is canonical and then get stuck with that one. Something in the distant future perhaps. Either way, BW kind of screwed itself in this manner.




Said it before, will say it again, leave the galaxy, problem solved.  It can then be during or after the events of shepards time.

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Why did you title your thread like this? Really sloppy and misleading looking.

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Said it before, will say it again, leave the galaxy, problem solved. It can then be during or after the events of shepards time.

So, a generic sci-fi space setting with the name Mass Effect slapped on to cash in on any remaining fan goodwill? In what way would that really be a Mass Effect game, rather than a new IP?

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If it will be a sequel I would like players to have a chance to import the main decision from ME3 (for obivious reason, you wuld not import Shepard lol)  - Destruction, Control or Synthesis. 

It would be a lot of work from Bioware to do this because it would have many different conversations and choices in every.. how to say - let's say it campaigns but IMO they would make up to a lot to the critics.

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No thanks. No prequel for me.

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MrDbow wrote...

No thanks. No prequel for me.

Why not?

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I would prefer a mid-quel with sheppard being indoc, and this new character saving him/her. Something similar to "Ender's Shadow" book about Bean. Something that fills all the gaps (Dekuuna, for example) and adding depth to ME3 plot.

THAT would be epic.

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Ironhandjustice wrote...

I would prefer a mid-quel with sheppard being indoc, and this new character saving him/her. Something similar to "Ender's Shadow" book about Bean. Something that fills all the gaps (Dekuuna, for example) and adding depth to ME3 plot.

THAT would be epic.

Aren't you tired of Reapers....and Geth...and Reapers....and Geth?

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Stardusk wrote...

Ironhandjustice wrote...

I would prefer a mid-quel with sheppard being indoc, and this new character saving him/her. Something similar to "Ender's Shadow" book about Bean. Something that fills all the gaps (Dekuuna, for example) and adding depth to ME3 plot.

THAT would be epic.

Aren't you tired of Reapers....and Geth...and Reapers....and Geth?




I would like to see them but the Reaper war game would be kinda sad to play unless they let us change how it ends. As for a sequel where they use the choices made in ME3. Well 2 of the choices make it impossible.

1) Synthesis- everyone in the galaxy is now a partially organic hybrid, the reapers included, everyone now has access to reaper level of tech. All the husks, the Banshees, all of them have regained their minds in one huge green wave that basically changed everyone to what Reapers basically are. If even some of the reapers remain and all those that were changed by reapers into their armies. Its a huge mess, its the kind of ****storm the proportion and edges of which I cant see. Writing something after synthesis would be incredibly hard. Plus isnt the green magic wave was supposed to bring in a new age of understanding and peace. So how can you have a game where everyone is basically a semi-synthetic hippie?

2)Control- shepard has become the Reaper control, with his ideas, his morality and his mind controlling all of the reapers. Say hi to the new galactic police that doesnt just help rebuild your planet but can chase down any pirate or slaver and blow them to pieces without any effort. krogan trying to have a war with turians? Welcome the new galactic police that stands between them, considering the amount of reapers and their much superior technology there is no way it would work. 
With reapers as the new clobbering mechanism that would turn on anyone who does something wrong then no one would risk it. Even if they do not involve themselves into every confilct anything large scale enough to warrant action would be impossible. Pirates or slavers attacking? Some shady group is trying to cause havoc? Bring in the reapers and their ground forces. Thousands and thousands of reapers and millions of ground forces which do not need to be fed, rest or paid. 

Hence the only choice is actually destroy and hopefully they realise that high EMS destroy with paragon choices is the best way forward.

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Ironhandjustice wrote...

I would prefer a mid-quel with sheppard being indoc, and this new character saving him/her. Something similar to "Ender's Shadow" book about Bean. Something that fills all the gaps (Dekuuna, for example) and adding depth to ME3 plot.

THAT would be epic.

And then you could make another sequel where it is revealed that Shepard waking up from a dream was just another dream.
And another where you reveal that this revelation wasn't real either.:devil: How deep can we go?

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AlexMBrennan wrote...

Ironhandjustice wrote...

I would prefer a mid-quel with sheppard being indoc, and this new character saving him/her. Something similar to "Ender's Shadow" book about Bean. Something that fills all the gaps (Dekuuna, for example) and adding depth to ME3 plot.

THAT would be epic.

And then you could make another sequel where it is revealed that Shepard waking up from a dream was just another dream.
And another where you reveal that this revelation wasn't real either.:devil: How deep can we go?


Inception ;)

No, for me there MUST be another main character that saves shep, who cannot do anything more him/herself.

:)

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AlexMBrennan wrote...

Said it before, will say it again, leave the galaxy, problem solved. It can then be during or after the events of shepards time.

So, a generic sci-fi space setting with the name Mass Effect slapped on to cash in on any remaining fan goodwill? In what way would that really be a Mass Effect game, rather than a new IP?


Eh?  What the hell are you talking about?  This is one of the dumbest comments I've seen on here.  The Shepard Mass Efefct story is OVER.  The new game can either be saddled by the final decison (it could be three things) for the next game or they can take the location of the game elsewhere out of the galaxy.  The new location can still have all the races we had before.  It can have a new unique story arc.  Hell it could even have mass relays if they wanted.

How you leaped to the conclusion of your post just by leaving the galaxy is beyond me and if you think that any new ME game is going to be just like the other three you are going to be sorely disappointed.

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katamuro wrote...

Stardusk wrote...

Ironhandjustice wrote...

I would prefer a mid-quel with sheppard being indoc, and this new character saving him/her. Something similar to "Ender's Shadow" book about Bean. Something that fills all the gaps (Dekuuna, for example) and adding depth to ME3 plot.

THAT would be epic.

Aren't you tired of Reapers....and Geth...and Reapers....and Geth?




I would like to see them but the Reaper war game would be kinda sad to play unless they let us change how it ends. As for a sequel where they use the choices made in ME3. Well 2 of the choices make it impossible.

1) Synthesis- everyone in the galaxy is now a partially organic hybrid, the reapers included, everyone now has access to reaper level of tech. All the husks, the Banshees, all of them have regained their minds in one huge green wave that basically changed everyone to what Reapers basically are. If even some of the reapers remain and all those that were changed by reapers into their armies. Its a huge mess, its the kind of ****storm the proportion and edges of which I cant see. Writing something after synthesis would be incredibly hard. Plus isnt the green magic wave was supposed to bring in a new age of understanding and peace. So how can you have a game where everyone is basically a semi-synthetic hippie?

2)Control- shepard has become the Reaper control, with his ideas, his morality and his mind controlling all of the reapers. Say hi to the new galactic police that doesnt just help rebuild your planet but can chase down any pirate or slaver and blow them to pieces without any effort. krogan trying to have a war with turians? Welcome the new galactic police that stands between them, considering the amount of reapers and their much superior technology there is no way it would work. 
With reapers as the new clobbering mechanism that would turn on anyone who does something wrong then no one would risk it. Even if they do not involve themselves into every confilct anything large scale enough to warrant action would be impossible. Pirates or slavers attacking? Some shady group is trying to cause havoc? Bring in the reapers and their ground forces. Thousands and thousands of reapers and millions of ground forces which do not need to be fed, rest or paid. 

Hence the only choice is actually destroy and hopefully they realise that high EMS destroy with paragon choices is the best way forward.

I see this as a problem. I too reckon that the only choice is destroy but it really puts a straighjacket on things. The fact is the legacy of the debacle that was ME3 shall reverberate for some time to come in the next iteration of ME, whatever that might be. They doomed themselves...sort of.

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I will love it, totally, since i can remember the protheans were at war against sinthetics before reaper attack. But, i dont think that bioware will go in that direction. Asari, Turians, etc, are very identified with ME, go with protheans will implied not have them.

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MassPredator wrote...

I will love it, totally, since i can remember the protheans were at war against sinthetics before reaper attack. But, i dont think that bioware will go in that direction. Asari, Turians, etc, are very identified with ME, go with protheans will implied not have them.

Glad someone likes the idea. My day has been saved.

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Nope.

They're not making a game without humans in it, that just doesn't happen.

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Nope.

They're not making a game without humans in it, that just doesn't happen.


So much this.:(

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Stardusk wrote...

MassPredator wrote...

I will love it, totally, since i can remember the protheans were at war against sinthetics before reaper attack. But, i dont think that bioware will go in that direction. Asari, Turians, etc, are very identified with ME, go with protheans will implied not have them.

Glad someone likes the idea. My day has been saved.




At your service....:D

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RussianZombeh wrote...

Nope.

They're not making a game without humans in it, that just doesn't happen.

More's the pity.

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Stardusk wrote...

Ironhandjustice wrote...

I would prefer a mid-quel with sheppard being indoc, and this new character saving him/her. Something similar to "Ender's Shadow" book about Bean. Something that fills all the gaps (Dekuuna, for example) and adding depth to ME3 plot.

THAT would be epic.

Aren't you tired of Reapers....and Geth...and Reapers....and Geth?


Not even slightly.

I do want more out there though. If Bioware wants to do Reapers and Geth stuff, have at it imo (even with the 'end of the Reaper threat').

I just want more of other things.

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