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[Iron Fist]

I think Cassandra and Vivienne will be the companions LIs. And Scribe Girl will be a non-companion LI (like Kelly Chambers).

I think Blonde Elf Girl/Sera will be even more promiscuous than Isabela, to the point of completely opposing monoamory. Thus, she will not be a LI. It will be the reverse of the situation with Aveline (who oddly enough shares the same writer - Lukas Kristjanson - as Sera).

Modifié par MevenSelas, 19 février 2014 - 10:53 .

[Ianamus]

Han Shot First wrote...

Why does every LI have to be young? When did that become a requirement?

I see no reason why there couldn't be a middle-aged LI.

Because the player character is usually around their early twenties, and a romance with an age gap of around 15-20 years is really disturbing to many people (including myself). 

To be honest even if the protagonist was in their thirties/forties I still wouldn't want it. It's got nothing to do with them being "ugly" as such and more to do with the fact that the thought of playing through a romance with an LI around the age of my parents is really grim.

Modifié par EJ107, 19 février 2014 - 10:57 .

[daveliam]

EJ107 wrote...

Because the player character is usually around their early twenties, and a romance with an age gap of around 15-20 years is really disturbing to many people (including myself). 

To be honest even if the protagonist was in their thirties/forties I still wouldn't want it. It's got nothing to do with them being "ugly" as such and more to do with the fact that the thought of playing through a romance with an LI around the age of my parents is really grim.

I don't see why we should assume that the Inquisitor is going to be in their early twenties.  The character is leading a major political faction that, unlike monarchies, would require merit in order to be qualified for the position.  I think that this would indicate that the Inquisitor would have to have years of service in before being able attain such a prestigious rank, so they are likely to be older than "early twenties".  I'm thiking that late 20's to early 30's is likely for the Inquisitor.

Also, Bioware often has PCs that aren't in their early twenties.  Revan was a Jedi general years before the events of KOTOR, so s/he would be in his/her 30's.  Shephard is in his/her 30's.  Hawke ends up in his/her 30's by the end of the game.  In fact, the Warden and the PC of Jade Empire might be the only Bioware PCs in the console generation that could be in their early 20's.

Also, you seem to be younger than the average gamer, btw.  According to a 2013 study by the Entertainment Software Association, the average gamer is 30.  So a romance option in their mid-30's to early 40's isn't too far out there.  Not to mention that many people like romancing older people.  In games and real life.  Also not to mention that you seem to be okay with a 10-15 year age difference if you are the older member (PC), but not the other way around.

Modifié par daveliam, 20 février 2014 - 12:26 .

[Gwydden]

Tinxa wrote...

I agree that LIs don't have to all be 21. Carth was 38 I believe.

But I don't think the Grey warden will be a LI. LIs have been more... traditionally handsome in the past and the Grey warden has a bushy beard riddled with gray. I know some find him attractive but still... if you put him against Carth, Kaidan, Alistair, Zevran, Fenris... I don't think he has "the look"

This is one thing that is in favour of Cullen being a companion imo. There'll be at least 2 male LIs and so far we haven't seen any really handsome companions.

It doesn't have to be so. Look at ME2. Male romances consisted of a featherless chicken, a middle aged reptilian guy and I would not even call Jacob traditionally handsome. He had a much more rugged, 'tough' look than Kaidan or Alistair.

[Gwydden]

daveliam wrote...

I don't see why we should assume that the Inquisitor is going to be in their early twenties.  The character is leading a major political faction that, unlike monarchies, would require merit in order to be qualified for the position.  I think that this would indicate that the Inquisitor would have to have years of service in before being able attain such a prestigious rank, so they are likely to be older than "early twenties".  I'm thiking that late 20's to early 30's is likely for the Inquisitor.

Also, Bioware often has PCs that aren't in their early twenties.  Revan was a Jedi general years before the events of KOTOR, so s/he would be in his/her 30's.  Shephard is in his/her 30's.  Hawke ends up in his/her 30's by the end of the game.  In fact, the Warden and the PC of Jade Empire might be the only Bioware PCs in the console generation that could be in their early 20's.

Also, you seem to be younger than the average gamer, btw.  According to a 2013 study by the Entertainment Software Association, the average gamer is 30.  So a romance option in their mid-30's to early 40's isn't too far out there.  Not to mention that many people like romancing older people.  In games and real life.  Also not to mention that you seem to be okay with a 10-15 year age difference if you are the older member (PC), but not the other way around.

One of the devs said the Inquisitor is somewhere between 20 and 40 years old, if I remember correctly. So there's that. Consider that would make him the oldest protagonist in BioWare's original IPs so far.

Modifié par Gwydden, 20 février 2014 - 12:55 .

[Tinxa]

Gwydden wrote...

Tinxa wrote...

I agree that LIs don't have to all be 21. Carth was 38 I believe.

But I don't think the Grey warden will be a LI. LIs have been more... traditionally handsome in the past and the Grey warden has a bushy beard riddled with gray. I know some find him attractive but still... if you put him against Carth, Kaidan, Alistair, Zevran, Fenris... I don't think he has "the look"

This is one thing that is in favour of Cullen being a companion imo. There'll be at least 2 male LIs and so far we haven't seen any really handsome companions.

It doesn't have to be so. Look at ME2. Male romances consisted of a featherless chicken, a middle aged reptilian guy and I would not even call Jacob traditionally handsome. He had a much more rugged, 'tough' look than Kaidan or Alistair.

Yes, but Garrus and Thane are sort of the exception to the rule They are so alien and not human that their looks almost don't matter anymore... but the different races in DA all have "human" faces so I don't know...
I just don't see them being too experimental with LI looks in DAI... at least not with all of them.

[Spectre slayer]

daveliam wrote...

EJ107 wrote...

Because the player character is usually around their early twenties, and a romance with an age gap of around 15-20 years is really disturbing to many people (including myself). 

To be honest even if the protagonist was in their thirties/forties I still wouldn't want it. It's got nothing to do with them being "ugly" as such and more to do with the fact that the thought of playing through a romance with an LI around the age of my parents is really grim.

I don't see why we should assume that the Inquisitor is going to be in their early twenties.  The character is leading a major political faction that, unlike monarchies, would require merit in order to be qualified for the position.  I think that this would indicate that the Inquisitor would have to have years of service in before being able attain such a prestigious rank, so they are likely to be older than "early twenties".  I'm thiking that late 20's to early 30's is likely for the Inquisitor.

Also, Bioware often has PCs that aren't in their early twenties.  Revan was a Jedi general years before the events of KOTOR, so s/he would be in his/her 30's.  Shephard is in his/her 30's.  Hawke ends up in his/her 30's by the end of the game.  In fact, the Warden and the PC of Jade Empire might be the only Bioware PCs in the console generation that could be in their early 20's.

Also, you seem to be younger than the average gamer, btw.  According to a 2013 study by the Entertainment Software Association, the average gamer is 30.  So a romance option in their mid-30's to early 40's isn't too far out there.  Not to mention that many people like romancing older people.  In games and real life.  Also not to mention that you seem to be okay with a 10-15 year age difference if you are the older member (PC), but not the other way around.

Edit

One of the devs said the Inquisitor is somewhere between 20 and 40 years old, if I remember correctly. So there's that. Consider that would make him the oldest protagonist in BioWare's original IPs so far.

Yes, Laidlaw confirmed that on his Twitter account back in November.

I agree with you davelaim and their double is kinda ridiculous because as you pointed out some of their past protagonists and their li's were older and that may be the case for some of the inquisitors in DAI since the age range for the inquisitor is older than 20 and under 40, and some LI's may be in the same range or older.

@GuardianJavier Some indeterminate age over 20 and under 40.10:56pm - 6 Nov 13

Cassandra has to be in her late 30's to early 40's depending on her age in DOTS which took place in 9:22 dragon close to 20 years ago, Varric (though I doubt he's a LI) is in his early 40's and most of them are probably in the age range of 20+-50 including the possible li's so they may not want to romance anyone with their thinking.

Also as some people mentioned previously Cullen is likely in his early to late 30's by now as it's been around 10+ year's since DAO ended.

I wonder who they romanced in ME since Shepard was what 28 in the first one and in their early 30's and the other characters were probably around the same ages with the exception of Liara who was what 150 or something who had over 100 year's on Shephard, and in the other games were like you mentioned.

Modifié par Spectre slayer, 20 février 2014 - 01:22 .

[daveliam]

Tinxa wrote...

Yes, but Garrus and Thane are sort of the exception to the rule They are so alien and not human that their looks almost don't matter anymore... but the different races in DA all have "human" faces so I don't know...
I just don't see them being too experimental with LI looks in DAI... at least not with all of them.

I agree that they will probably have a "hunky" male LI.  Carth, Kaidan, Alistair, Jacob, and Anders all pretty much fit this description* (*your mileage may vary).  That's why I feel pretty confident that, if he's a companion, Cullen will be a LI.  He fits that stereotype.  However, there will certainly be another male LI, so that's why I'm not willing to completely rule out the Grey Warden.  Although, if I have to be honest, I think that, unfortunately, the writers might find an older Grey Warden who is approaching his Calling to not be good romance material.  It's a bit too close to Thane, which was one of the least popular romances, I think.  I'm crossing my fingers that I'm wrong, though.

[Sugarjaye]

Friera wrote...

Sugarjaye wrote...

I don't know but I definately prefer his look here


then to this one...
  This onehe kind of looks...off...

I LOVE the hair in the first pic. Im begging BW to make him keep the hair. No offence to bald people, but usually hair on their head looks much better...

I hope there is a nice cool loveinteresert for us women gamers out there. Not anything ****ty like in ME3...

I think i'd just like it if he looked a little less like a nosferatu. lol

[Gwydden]

daveliam wrote...

I agree that they will probably have a "hunky" male LI.  Carth, Kaidan, Alistair, Jacob, and Anders all pretty much fit this description* (*your mileage may vary).  That's why I feel pretty confident that, if he's a companion, Cullen will be a LI.  He fits that stereotype.  However, there will certainly be another male LI, so that's why I'm not willing to completely rule out the Grey Warden.  Although, if I have to be honest, I think that, unfortunately, the writers might find an older Grey Warden who is approaching his Calling to not be good romance material.  It's a bit too close to Thane, which was one of the least popular romances, I think.  I'm crossing my fingers that I'm wrong, though.

Well, there is always the far fetched chance that the budget this time will cover three romance options per gender xD. If Sera ends up being a companion and based on what little we know about her and the two confirmed female ones, I have no idea which two de devs would consider the best options here. Just as in the other two main games it seems we'll get three female companions, but there doesn't seem to be an obvious one to discard as a LI, like Wynne or Aveline.

[Sugarjaye]

daveliam wrote...

Tinxa wrote...

Yes, but Garrus and Thane are sort of the exception to the rule They are so alien and not human that their looks almost don't matter anymore... but the different races in DA all have "human" faces so I don't know...
I just don't see them being too experimental with LI looks in DAI... at least not with all of them.

I agree that they will probably have a "hunky" male LI.  Carth, Kaidan, Alistair, Jacob, and Anders all pretty much fit this description* (*your mileage may vary).  That's why I feel pretty confident that, if he's a companion, Cullen will be a LI.  He fits that stereotype.  However, there will certainly be another male LI, so that's why I'm not willing to completely rule out the Grey Warden.  Although, if I have to be honest, I think that, unfortunately, the writers might find an older Grey Warden who is approaching his Calling to not be good romance material.  It's a bit too close to Thane, which was one of the least popular romances, I think.  I'm crossing my fingers that I'm wrong, though.

That makes sense. But, i'm hoping for the Elven guy and /or Iron bull

[Han Shot First]

daveliam wrote...

EJ107 wrote...

Because the player character is usually around their early twenties, and a romance with an age gap of around 15-20 years is really disturbing to many people (including myself). 

To be honest even if the protagonist was in their thirties/forties I still wouldn't want it. It's got nothing to do with them being "ugly" as such and more to do with the fact that the thought of playing through a romance with an LI around the age of my parents is really grim.

I don't see why we should assume that the Inquisitor is going to be in their early twenties.  The character is leading a major political faction that, unlike monarchies, would require merit in order to be qualified for the position.  I think that this would indicate that the Inquisitor would have to have years of service in before being able attain such a prestigious rank, so they are likely to be older than "early twenties".  I'm thiking that late 20's to early 30's is likely for the Inquisitor.

Also, Bioware often has PCs that aren't in their early twenties.  Revan was a Jedi general years before the events of KOTOR, so s/he would be in his/her 30's.  Shephard is in his/her 30's.  Hawke ends up in his/her 30's by the end of the game.  In fact, the Warden and the PC of Jade Empire might be the only Bioware PCs in the console generation that could be in their early 20's.

Also, you seem to be younger than the average gamer, btw.  According to a 2013 study by the Entertainment Software Association, the average gamer is 30.  So a romance option in their mid-30's to early 40's isn't too far out there.  Not to mention that many people like romancing older people.  In games and real life.  Also not to mention that you seem to be okay with a 10-15 year age difference if you are the older member (PC), but not the other way around.

Good post.

I think some people are mistaking their own personal preferences for a hard and fast rule that the devs must follow. Also if there are several potential LIs, wouldn't it make more sense for them to be from different age groups? Why would all of the characters be the same age?

[Hanako Ikezawa]

MevenSelas wrote...

I think Cassandra and Vivienne will be the companions LIs. And Scribe Girl will be a non-companion LI (like Kelly Chambers).

I think Blonde Elf Girl/Sera will be even more promiscuous than Isabela, to the point of completely opposing monoamory. Thus, she will not be a LI. It will be the reverse of the situation with Aveline (who oddly enough shares the same writer - Lukas Kristjanson - as Sera).

Don't speak nonsense, Meven. 

[Iron Fist]

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

MevenSelas wrote...

I think Cassandra and Vivienne will be the companions LIs. And Scribe Girl will be a non-companion LI (like Kelly Chambers).

I think Blonde Elf Girl/Sera will be even more promiscuous than Isabela, to the point of completely opposing monoamory. Thus, she will not be a LI. It will be the reverse of the situation with Aveline (who oddly enough shares the same writer - Lukas Kristjanson - as Sera).

Don't speak nonsense, Meven. 

So far, Sera reminds me of an ex-girlfriend, the kinky free spirit swinger.

Isabela wasn't into fisting people.  At least, I don't think she was. 


Isabela's fetish was wearing clothes before, during, and immediately after sex.

Modifié par MevenSelas, 20 février 2014 - 06:14 .

[The Elder King]

Sera was telling a story. There's no evidence she personally likes fisting people.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

MevenSelas wrote...

LDS Darth Revan wrote...

MevenSelas wrote...

I think Cassandra and Vivienne will be the companions LIs. And Scribe Girl will be a non-companion LI (like Kelly Chambers).

I think Blonde Elf Girl/Sera will be even more promiscuous than Isabela, to the point of completely opposing monoamory. Thus, she will not be a LI. It will be the reverse of the situation with Aveline (who oddly enough shares the same writer - Lukas Kristjanson - as Sera).

Don't speak nonsense, Meven. 

So far, Sera reminds me of an ex-girlfriend, the kinky free spirit swinger.

Isabela wasn't into fisting people.  At least, I don't think she was. 


Isabela's fetish was wearing clothes before, during, and immediately after sex.

Oh, if it was anything sexual I think Isabela was down for it. Same with Zevran. Both of whom, despite being huge personizers, had the option to fall in love with the protagonist so even if Sera is that kind of character, which part of me hopes not just so it's not a "she's a female Zevran" thing, the option for her to be a LI ios high since both prior characters that had that trait were.

[Han Shot First]

hhh89 wrote...

Sera was telling a story. There's no evidence she personally likes fisting people.

She looks like she is telling a very dirty joke though.

Besides her gesture, look at the reaction of the Grey Warden and Cassandra. Cassandra is deeply offended and the Grey Warden is both hysterically laughing and facepalming.

Its hard to draw conclusions of a character just based on concept art, but if that one is a reflection of her personality, she looks like she is going to be a lot of fun.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 20 février 2014 - 06:24 .

[The Elder King]

@Han Shot First: I agree that she was telling a dirty joke. My point was that telling a dirty joke about fisting doesn't mean she's necessarily into fisting .

[Han Shot First]

hhh89 wrote...

@Han Shot First: I agree that she was telling a dirty joke. My point was that telling a dirty joke about fisting doesn't mean she's necessarily into fisting .

Gotcha.

Agreed, in that case.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I didn't think she was telling a dirty joke. But then I've never been good at getting dirty jokes, like Merrill.

[ladyofpayne]

We get elven mage