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[fhs33721]

What?

Sorry I can't say anything more about this OP. (Anything nice at least)

[The Elder King]

Qistina wrote...

Morrigan is a reptilian shapeshifter...her mother is a dragon...so...?

There is no evidence of Flemeth being a dragon.

[Bekkael]

x-aizen-x wrote...

 power and attack big companires. Now with morrigan she was clear just in her 20s not 30 or even 40s(i dont even understand who would think that) In any case that means the ogb is nearyl in his 40s as well. Im sure i dont need to tell you how dat dont mane sience.

So is this cannon or no? Because this heavily resebmpbles a story fix. There needs to be some kind of explenation for how an etire inqusitioneie was fromd in less than 1 year. that means the game would have to start with time skips to be able to catch up. Because then the game would need to take place in the summer not the coldest part of ferelden. In case i am missing somthing it was confrimd that DA2 takes place over ten years.how can that be true if morrigan has only aged 10 years. theres is some kind of problem their but i cam put my finger on it. either way despite the obivous time fracture the game will pace at its on leusiusre.

GMag......is....is that you?

[Spectre slayer]

hhh89 wrote...

Qistina wrote...

Morrigan is a reptilian shapeshifter...her mother is a dragon...so...?

There is no evidence of Flemeth being a dragon.

There actually is some evidence of this as she does indicate this herself, she's not a human, not a malificar, not an abomination, not a demon and numerous time's in the series Flemeth indicates that she may be a dragon and we'll find out in DAI.

Morrigan is most likely not her true daughter and probably was kidnapped which she indicates in DAO, as Flemeth isn't a human being she won't be able to have a baby naturally.

[Sylvius the Mad]

x-aizen-x wrote...

In any case that means the ogb is nearyl in his 40s as well.

This is the line that troubles me.  I would love to know why you think this means the OGB would be in his forties.

[Fast Jimmy]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

x-aizen-x wrote...

In any case that means the ogb is nearyl in his 40s as well.

This is the line that troubles me.  I would love to know why you think this means the OGB would be in his forties.

Down that road lies madness. 

[ElitePinecone]

Bekkael wrote...

GMag......is....is that you?

hella bluntz tbh.

[The Elder King]

@Spectre Slayer: the fact that Flemeth isn't a human or an abomination doesn't mean she's a dragon.
And Flemeth herself never indicated that she's specifically a dragon. If you have evidence, show it.
Furthermore, if what you mean is that she's an Old God (which by the way there's zero evidence about), it doesn't necessarily mean she's a dragon, because she can have the soul of an OG and not be dragon.
The fact that she can shapeshift into a dragon and that she knew the DR, which is about the Old Gods, doesn't mean that she's a dragon. Her involvment with the Old Gods are the reason why there's speculation of her being a dragon/Old God, but that isn't evidence at all.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Fast Jimmy wrote...

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

x-aizen-x wrote...

In any case that means the ogb is nearyl in his 40s as well.

This is the line that troubles me.  I would love to know why you think this means the OGB would be in his forties.

Down that road lies madness.

Have you met me?

[AresKeith]

Qistina in a Aizen thread?

Oh boy

[DonaldFwump]

The OP just made my afternoon. Qistina here now? Getting the popcorn and settling in.

[The Elder King]

So, the 'evidence' for Morrigan and Flemeth being 'dragons' is that they never confirmed that they're humans (as a lot of characters in the IP), and their eyes (just because they have an uncommon colour)? Seems legit.

[Spectre slayer]

hhh89 wrote...

@Spectre Slayer: the fact that Flemeth isn't a human or an abomination doesn't mean she's a dragon.
And Flemeth herself never indicated that she's specifically a dragon. If you have evidence, show it.
Furthermore, if what you mean is that she's an Old God (which by the way there's zero evidence about), it doesn't necessarily mean she's a dragon, because she can have the soul of an OG and not be dragon.
The fact that she can shapeshift into a dragon and that she knew the DR, which is about the Old Gods, doesn't mean that she's a dragon. Her involvment with the Old Gods are the reason why there's speculation of her being a dragon/Old God, but that isn't evidence at all.

Sigh, she did indicate she might be a dragon a few times in the series, in one instance she said maybe I am a dragon that can take human form or something along those line's and the only I can provr it is going back and playing the games and get to the part where she says that.

When did I ever claim she was an old god or have ever said that because i've been against that theory and have spoken out against here on bsn and numerous other site's, why I think she maybe a dragon solely rests on her indicating as much, her not being any of those thing's, her connection with dragons in general, her supposedly introducing Callenhad to dragon blood and the promise she made with Marric about bringing dragons back which Yavana confirmed, her connection to the elves and at one point in the dalish orgin Tamlen says something about the cave if I remember correctly it feels like we stumbled into a dragon's lair and that the place felt wrong for who it was supposed to be for. Also every old god is male and she's a female, and there's tons of other reasons why I don't think she's an old god but a lot more for her being a dragon.

Whether you agree with me or not, or think she didn't say that is fine with me since I really don't have to prove anything to you nor should I have to, what I said was that there was some indication that she was a dragon and she hinted as much.

We'll find out in DAI, since they promised that we'll get a lot of answers, find out more about her and what she is and what her true nature is.

[Annie_Dear]

AresKeith wrote...

Qistina in a Aizen thread?

Oh boy

I know right?

[The Elder King]

@Spectre Slayer: I remember the 'maybe I'm a dragon' line. That line could be a joke, so it's not evidence.
I talked about Old Gods because Gaider specifically stated in the recent past that dragons are simply animals. They're not a sentient species. So Flemeth can't be a normal dragon.
Actually Gaider's post means that if Old Gods aren't simply animals they're more than dragons, so even if Flemeth is an OG she isn't a 'real' dragon.

Modifié par hhh89, 14 février 2014 - 08:02 .

[darkchief10]

Maria Caliban wrote...

x-aizen-x wrote...
In any case that means the ogb is nearyl in his 40s as well. Im sure i dont need to tell you how dat dont mane sience.

I'll try to explain as best I can.

P1. Chewbacca is a wookie
P2. Wookies are from Kashyyyk
C1. Chewbacca is from Endor

Why would a Wookiee, an 8-foot-tall Wookiee, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of 2-foot-tall Ewoks? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with Dragon Age? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this game! It does not make sense!

Am I a bad person for reading this in Bill O'Reilly's voice?

[ames4u]

PSUHammer wrote...

I am not sure I followed that, OP. If Kirkwall happens over 10 years after events in DAO, then how long between DA2 and DAI?  I think it starts soon after, maybe a year or two?  If that is the case, Morrigan could be in her late 30's using your "age 25 in DAO" statement. That would make the DGB a pre-teen.

I'm glad to see I'm not the only one completely confused. Technically the kid is about 11 (12-13 at a push) years old is he not? So where the heck is the 'OGB is 30-40ish' coming from? Although, I did find it hard to understand what was being said given the err...structure of some of the words.



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Wait, Qustina is in the thread?!?

 

Modifié par ames4u, 14 février 2014 - 09:17 .

[CybAnt1]

What if that's just some shapeshifting?

Note that she can teach your PC mage/Warden shapeshifting as well ...

which clearly turns them into a Reptilian. :innocent:

[CybAnt1]

Down that road lies madness. 

Does this call for a new word?

'aizanity'? 

[Mr.House]

Qistina wrote...

hhh89 wrote...

Qistina wrote...

Morrigan is a reptilian shapeshifter...her mother is a dragon...so...?

There is no evidence of Flemeth being a dragon.

There are a lot of evidence, but in DA the "dragons" are not always "dragons" as you believe a dragon is

Both Flemeth and Morrigan never admit they are human. Morrigan dialogues especially when asked about her shapeshifting magic indicate that she's not human. The "magic" there is just her cover, she just can transform into anything, she's a reptilian shapeshifter as her mother is

Look at her eyes, it's reptilian eyes

A warden can learn shapshifting, hell a darkspawn can shapeshift, get off that pot.

[Br3admax]

Morrigan: "My life is as a human. I have no delusions otherwise." Or something like that.

[Iron Fist]

Wait, what is the OP talking about?

[CrazyRah]

MevenSelas wrote...

Wait, what is the OP talking about?

Still trying to figure that one out, almost betting that it's some alien transmission

[Spectre slayer]

hhh89 wrote...

@Spectre Slayer: I remember the 'maybe I'm a dragon' line. That line could be a joke, so it's not evidence.
I talked about Old Gods because Gaider specifically stated in the recent past that dragons are simply animals. They're not a sentient species. So Flemeth can't be a normal dragon.

Actually Gaider's post means that if Old Gods aren't simply animals they're more than dragons, so even if Flemeth is an OG she isn't a 'real' dragon.

Even if it's circumstantial evidence that she says more than once it still exists, and the point is if she's not all of those thing's then there's a limited amount of things she can be and her being a "dragon" is one of them.

Also I never said she was a normal one either nor did I say she's an old god and yes I do know what he said about them in general but they've ruled out a ton of stuff and have hinted at her being a "dragon" but this isn't really the thread to debate this in, anyway like I said we'll get a lot of answers in DAI.

Wait, what is the OP talking about

Something about the timeline being messed up and that it needs to be fixed, and that he can't put his finger on something because of ? and how he shouldn't have to explain because of ??????? And a time fracture????????

Something about a cannon, her age and that she can't be in her 30's-40's in DAO or DAI or both since i'm not sure and she may have been in her 20-30's in DAO and you have to add a year to that than another ten-thirteen, the age of the ogb, how long DA2 lasted and how many years she aged, which in his mind somehow makes the ogb 40 or something like that but the oldest she could possibly be is early 40's in DAI and how would they be the same age.

He's not sure when DAI starts and says the inquisition can't be reformed over a year and we need time skips to rebuild it, and to catch up in which Gaider already replied to that. Something about Fereldan and where it takes place and what season it takes place in, Fereldan is only one of the places DAI takes place in though the only other known one is Orliais.

He thinks Morrigan can't be over 25 in the games but depending on her age she would be early 30's to early 40's in DAI,  says DA2 can't take place over 10 years( it did take place over 10 year's 9:30-9:40 dragon) because she aged ten years.

Which equals him thinking the ogb is in his 40's, which would make him close to her age or older than her unless she's 60-70+ years old which makes no sense at all.

He seems to be very confused about how long it's been in total since the end of DAO and when exactly DAI begins. 

It seems that he thinks it's been close to 30 years since the end of DAO instead of it being slightly over 10 years since then or some serious space magic time traveling/ manipulation occurred to explain why he thinks the ogb is 40 instead of what 10-14 years old.

It's very hard to understand and his logic doesn't really make all that much sense and it's even worse considering his grammar, sentience structure, spelling, and format.

Anyway he's completely off base and reached a new level of uh azienness lol not sure what to say except the problem is with his logic.

Modifié par Spectre slayer, 15 février 2014 - 01:57 .