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[aTrueFool]

Preview

Kai Leng is a whiny ****

[Philosophaster]

Dialogue from the Citadel DLC:

Miranda: It did. So... a clone?
Shepard: Yeah, saw it myself. Did you know anything about this?
Miranda: Just rumors. Nothing really caught my attention. But about this Brooks...
Miranda: Not as Brooks, but "Hope Lillium." Another lie, certainly. When the Collectors showed up, she put together the dossiers on your crew for the Illusive Man.
Miranda: Never paid her much mind. Interesting.
Miranda: My focus at the time was bringing you back. We needed the real Shepard not some cheap knockoff.
Miranda: I mean, really. A clone?

Quite the disconnect between the preview and this game dialogue. Miranda is not only shown to know about the clone's existence, but she is actually in charge of its growth. She knows "Brooks" as Rasa and trusts her enough to expose her to the Lazarus Project and task her with acquiring Shepard's classified records. Miranda's eyes are inexplicably a different color as well.

[von uber]

Well that makes no sense then.
And is that supposed to be Miranda?

[Lawrence0294]

...i'm confused Bioware.

[JasonShepard]

... Are we supposed to know what mission it is that Leng and Brooks are returning from?

[wright1978]

So is Miranda lying to Brooks that it is a clone when in fact it is the real Shep. Because the alternate explanation that they are making ME3 Miranda a liar would annoy me intensely and dislike the silly clone plot of citadel even more.

[von uber]

These comics are bleedin awful (what I have seen).
The Simpsons sum it up nicely:

www.youtube.com/watch

Modifié par von uber, 14 février 2014 - 07:18 .

[Iakus]

Expecting even basic continuity from Mass Effect is, like trying to reason with the Catalyst, an exercise in futility.

[Philosophaster]

wright1978 wrote...

So is Miranda lying to Brooks that it is a clone when in fact it is the real Shep. Because the alternate explanation that they are making ME3 Miranda a liar would annoy me intensely and dislike the silly clone plot of citadel even more.

I think the explanation is that Mac Walters forgot what was in the games when it came to writing these comics. There have been several inconsistencies from what I can tell. The Lazarus Project wasn't even situated on Minuteman Station in ME2 and yet in the comics it is.

[Steelcan]

has BioWare even HEARD of lore consistency?

Modifié par Steelcan, 14 février 2014 - 07:26 .

[Guanxii]

Bought Foundation 1, 2 (Wrex), 3 (Ashley) and was so disappointed with walter's decision to retcon cerberus into every single character's backstory (this guy is singlehandedly driving this series off a cliff) I disavowed foundations as bad fanfiction and generall hackery. One comic about Brookes and a cameo from kai leng is enough.... jesus h christ.

Jack, Miranda and Jacob I can understand. Forcing cerberus where they don't belong is horrible writing. I can't wait to see how cerberus killed Thane's wife or sabotaged the genophage again (mordin) or some other such nonsense.

Modifié par Guanxii, 14 février 2014 - 07:32 .

[txgoldrush]

What can't fans learn their lesson here......just because a character says something, does NOT make it established lore.

And really, I find it more to be a problem with the citadel DLC, not the comic. Why? Because there is no way Miranda would not know of the clone if the clone was needed in the Lazarus Project to maybe replace Shepard's organs.

However, in the context that the clone was out, now, that would make more sense.

[wright1978]

inconsiderate rick wrote...

wright1978 wrote...

So is Miranda lying to Brooks that it is a clone when in fact it is the real Shep. Because the alternate explanation that they are making ME3 Miranda a liar would annoy me intensely and dislike the silly clone plot of citadel even more.

I think the explanation is that Mac Walters forgot what was in the games when it came to writing these comics. There have been several inconsistencies from what I can tell. The Lazarus Project wasn't even situated on Minuteman Station in ME2 and yet in the comics it is.

I assume he just doesn't care laying the boot into ME2 characters. Their not the ME1 crew afterall.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

HEYO MORE CERBERUS YO!

Ain't you all happy?

[Steelcan]

txgoldrush wrote...

What can't fans learn their lesson here......just because a character says something, does NOT make it established lore.

And really, I find it more to be a problem with the citadel DLC, not the comic. Why? Because there is no way Miranda would not know of the clone if the clone was needed in the Lazarus Project to maybe replace Shepard's organs.

However, in the context that the clone was out, now, that would make more sense.

So Miranda lied to Shepard for no reason in ME3?

[Lawrence0294]

Modifié par Lawrence0294, 14 février 2014 - 07:31 .

[txgoldrush]

Guanxii wrote...

Bought Foundation 1, 2 (Wrex), 3 (Ashley) and was so disappointed with walter's decision to retcon cerberus into every single character's backstory (this guy is singlehandedly driving this series off a cliff) I disavowed foundations as bad fanfiction and generall hackery. One comic about Brookes and a cameo from kai leng is enough.... jesus h christ.

I can't wait to see how cerberus killed Thane's wife or sabotaged the genophage again (mordin) or some other such nonsense.

You are not getting it.

First off, Cerberus is only the observer to the character stories, however, foundation is going to explain why these characters are dossiers in ME2. So Cerberus is needed.

[Steelcan]

txgoldrush wrote...

Guanxii wrote...

Bought Foundation 1, 2 (Wrex), 3 (Ashley) and was so disappointed with walter's decision to retcon cerberus into every single character's backstory (this guy is singlehandedly driving this series off a cliff) I disavowed foundations as bad fanfiction and generall hackery. One comic about Brookes and a cameo from kai leng is enough.... jesus h christ.

I can't wait to see how cerberus killed Thane's wife or sabotaged the genophage again (mordin) or some other such nonsense.

You are not getting it.

First off, Cerberus is only the observer to the character stories, however, foundation is going to explain why these characters are dossiers in ME2. So Cerberus is needed.

Can you cover up please, your drone is showing

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Steelcan wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

What can't fans learn their lesson here......just because a character says something, does NOT make it established lore.

And really, I find it more to be a problem with the citadel DLC, not the comic. Why? Because there is no way Miranda would not know of the clone if the clone was needed in the Lazarus Project to maybe replace Shepard's organs.

However, in the context that the clone was out, now, that would make more sense.

So Miranda lied to Shepard for no reason in ME3?

You idiot, Steelcan. You just don't ****ing get it!

Modifié par Lizardviking, 14 février 2014 - 07:33 .

[AresKeith]

Fishstick wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

What can't fans learn their lesson here......just because a character says something, does NOT make it established lore.

And really, I find it more to be a problem with the citadel DLC, not the comic. Why? Because there is no way Miranda would not know of the clone if the clone was needed in the Lazarus Project to maybe replace Shepard's organs.

However, in the context that the clone was out, now, that would make more sense.

Can you please lay off the Fanboyism?

Look at who you're talking to

[Lawrence0294]

txgoldrush wrote...

Guanxii wrote...

Bought Foundation 1, 2 (Wrex), 3 (Ashley) and was so disappointed with walter's decision to retcon cerberus into every single character's backstory (this guy is singlehandedly driving this series off a cliff) I disavowed foundations as bad fanfiction and generall hackery. One comic about Brookes and a cameo from kai leng is enough.... jesus h christ.

I can't wait to see how cerberus killed Thane's wife or sabotaged the genophage again (mordin) or some other such nonsense.

You are not getting it.

First off, Cerberus is only the observer to the character stories, however, foundation is going to explain why these characters are dossiers in ME2. So Cerberus is needed.

As far as i remember, Ashley, Wrex or Kaidan weren't dossiers in ME2.

[txgoldrush]

Steelcan wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

What can't fans learn their lesson here......just because a character says something, does NOT make it established lore.

And really, I find it more to be a problem with the citadel DLC, not the comic. Why? Because there is no way Miranda would not know of the clone if the clone was needed in the Lazarus Project to maybe replace Shepard's organs.

However, in the context that the clone was out, now, that would make more sense.

So Miranda lied to Shepard for no reason in ME3?

so in the context...she is supposed to know the clone is out?

[txgoldrush]

Lawrence0294 wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Guanxii wrote...

Bought Foundation 1, 2 (Wrex), 3 (Ashley) and was so disappointed with walter's decision to retcon cerberus into every single character's backstory (this guy is singlehandedly driving this series off a cliff) I disavowed foundations as bad fanfiction and generall hackery. One comic about Brookes and a cameo from kai leng is enough.... jesus h christ.

I can't wait to see how cerberus killed Thane's wife or sabotaged the genophage again (mordin) or some other such nonsense.

You are not getting it.

First off, Cerberus is only the observer to the character stories, however, foundation is going to explain why these characters are dossiers in ME2. So Cerberus is needed.

As far as i remember, Ashley, Wrex or Kaidan weren't dossiers in ME2.

But the next characters covered are.

[CroGamer002]

OK, who the hell buys this comics?

Cause this is just horrible.

[txgoldrush]

Steelcan wrote...

txgoldrush wrote...

Guanxii wrote...

Bought Foundation 1, 2 (Wrex), 3 (Ashley) and was so disappointed with walter's decision to retcon cerberus into every single character's backstory (this guy is singlehandedly driving this series off a cliff) I disavowed foundations as bad fanfiction and generall hackery. One comic about Brookes and a cameo from kai leng is enough.... jesus h christ.

I can't wait to see how cerberus killed Thane's wife or sabotaged the genophage again (mordin) or some other such nonsense.

You are not getting it.

First off, Cerberus is only the observer to the character stories, however, foundation is going to explain why these characters are dossiers in ME2. So Cerberus is needed.

Can you cover up please, your drone is showing

Have you got it through your head that Brooks is the protagonist of Foundation?