Having absolute powers always corrupts as fenris said mages have too much power already tevinter is best example how mages will end having freedom or just opportunity.
But that doesn't affect solely mages. Anyone with power can get corrupted by it. It's human nature.
Agreed. Because mages are the only people who seek power and dominance over others. They are the only successful society to have ever arisen on Thedas that thrives on the subjugation of others.
Like it has corrupted the nobility of Orlais and Templars.
Well true i won't deny that but we have only 2 examples of corrupted templars so well it is great score so you don't have any evidence.
But that doesn't affect solely mages. Anyone with power can get corrupted by it. It's human nature.
There is big diffrence avoiding instability of mages (demonic possession) mages have a lot more than political power they have personal power so as i said it is like comparing hitler to doomsday first
Well true i won't deny that but we have only 2 examples of corrupted templars so well it is great score so you don't have any evidence.
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What about Lambert? Or Meredith? Or, Idk Ser Alrik?
Besides Tevinter is nationalist than anything. An elf Tevinter citizen is valued more than a foreign mage. A tevinter citizen can never be made a slave regardless of race but a mage can be a slave too if he/she is from another country.
So yeah it has nothing to with magic.
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What about Lambert? Or Meredith? Or, Idk Ser Alrik?
Lambert wasn't corrupted and if he was that he was in postive way going against insane leader. Meredith was fanatic or otherwise knight templar pretty much standart for templar she was just much more fanatical than other and alrik was one of examples that i mentioned.
Besides Tevinter is nationalist than anything. An elf Tevinter citizen is valued more than a foreign mage. A tevinter citizen can never be made a slave regardless of race but a mage can be a slave too if he/she is from another country.
So yeah it has nothing to with magic.
Of course it have magic provides power (rather blood magic) so they can do that they need power.
There is big diffrence avoiding instability of mages (demonic possession) mages have a lot more than political power they have personal power so as i said it is like comparing hitler to doomsday first
You sure do love using hyperboles, don't you? 
You sure do love using hyperboles, don't you?
Well hitler respresents political power but he is same human as you when it comes about personal power sure he made a lot mess still he had support of many to do that.When doomsday can create bigger mess than him without any support just becuase he had personal power. Same with mages and abomnations in our world and dragon age world might makes right and when it comes about power blood mages have it more than every other non-mage.
Lambert wasn't corrupted and if he was that he was in postive way going against insane leader. Meredith was fanatic or otherwise knight templar pretty much standart for templar she was just much more fanatical than other and alrik was one of examples that i mentioned.
Well, imo, for Lambert to branch off from the Divine and take a Chantry-driven order into his own hands, he was a bit power hungry.
Meredith was driven by power, fanatic or not. She took the place of Viscount, and didn't let any other suitable politician in that seat, so again, safe to say driven by power. At least in that aspect.
Well, imo, for Lambert to branch off from the Divine and take a Chantry-driven order into his own hands, he was a bit power hungry.
Meredith was driven by power, fanatic or not. She took the place of Viscount, and didn't let any other suitable politician in that seat, so again, safe to say driven by power. At least in that aspect.
Do you not understand?
Only mages seek power!
Well, imo, for Lambert to branch off from the Divine and take a Chantry-driven order into his own hands, he was a bit power hungry.
Meredith was driven by power, fanatic or not. She took the place of Viscount, and didn't let any other suitable politician in that seat, so again, safe to say driven by power. At least in that aspect.
I don't think they were power hungry rather fanatics i can agree but not corrupted alrik was corrupted and karas thats all templars well we can add few more templars with alrik.
Well hitler respresents political power but he is same human as you when it comes about personal power sure he made a lot mess still he had support of many to do that.When doomsday can create bigger mess than him without any support just becuase he had personal power. Same with mages and abomnations in our world and dragon age world might makes right and when it comes about power blood mages have it more than every other non-mage.
Well then I ask you, show me a mage who created a bigger mess than anyone without any political support and did so by themselves.
Do you not understand?
Only mages seek power!
Clearly!!! I've been mistaken this entire time! I need to reevaluate my entire stance on this war.
I don't think they were power hungry rather fanatics i can agree but not corrupted alrik was corrupted and karas thats all templars well we can add few more templars with alrik.
So refusing to allow another candidate take over Kirkwall and take seat in the throne, crowning him/her Viscount, because they want to rule, doesn't make you power hungry?
Meredith turned herself into a statue, so that's an easy one. Of course, if you want to break her into bits so that your fanatical fundamentalist jihadi red templars can get their fix and replace her with a more flattering likeness in (mundane) stone, I'm sure that there are many, many pigeons in Thedas who would love the opportunity to show her the respect she deserves.
Given that Lambert seems to have gotten exactly what he deserved from Cole and is therefore now dead, you'll probably have to find a new paranoid fanatic to head your dead-end thugs.
Dura are you trolling right now? He asked for what we would do in response to said characters and our method of fixing the broken circle system, i replied in kind.
I gave my explanation, obviously if i was given divine power over the Lore, it wouldn't resemble anything vaguely like it does now.
A lot of characters would have been drown in lakes children for starters.
Alrik was just one Templar, but he sure seemed to have quite a few nameless that followed along with his evil scheme.
Do you not understand?
Only mages seek power!
didn't i said that absolute power corrupts it is how humans works.Every mage have personal power and easily can have more thanks to blood magic i mean why don't use it if that gives you more power whether you will use it for "greater good" or just personal goal it will corrupt you. common peoples have little power and even nobles have to care about what they are doing because they easily can lost that because he have little/equal personal power.
Alrik was just one Templar, but he sure seemed to have quite a few nameless that followed along with his evil scheme.
Woohooohooo, thank you for posting this! Even if I'm dead to you for disliking cookies 
Besides Tevinter is nationalist than anything. An elf Tevinter citizen is valued more than a foreign mage. A tevinter citizen can never be made a slave regardless of race but a mage can be a slave too if he/she is from another country.
So yeah it has nothing to with magic.
Do you not understand?
Only mages seek power!
Lambert didn't seek to usurp the Divine or Chantry though.
He in fact even wanted the Chantry to be a part of the Circle system again once he was done putting down the Rebellion, he just didn't care for the Divine's actions, stance or her personally.
His actions were done out of belief, not lust for power.
If he had been after power, he likely would have turned the army he had assembled against the Divine, he even went so far as to call her unworthy to sit on that throne, but he didn't move to strike against her or the institution he was pledged to formerly.
Not a black and white character certainly but not an overt maniac either, he had his beliefs and he acted accordingly.
Umm what about the part of non mages being 2nd class citizens and not able to hold political office.
The entirety of the Senate if i recall correctly was taken from the ranks of the Imperiums circles senior enchanters, just as the Archon is acting black divine and grand enchanter.
Well then I ask you, show me a mage who created a bigger mess than anyone without any political support and did so by themselves.
Well lets see blights , army of harvesters , tevinter empire 1 mage children killing 72 peoples , 1 mage children taking over castle and village without problems and creating army of undeads. and much more disasters sponsored by mages mostly 1 person is only required.
Lambert didn't seek to usurp the Divine or Chantry though.
He in fact even wanted the Chantry to be a part of the Circle system again once he was done putting down the Rebellion, he just didn't care for the Divine's actions, stance or her personally.
His actions were done out of belief, not lust for power.
If he had been after power, he likely would have turned the army he had assembled against the Divine, he even went so far as to call her unworthy to sit on that throne, but he didn't move to strike against her or the institution he was pledged to formerly.
Not a black and white character certainly but not an overt maniac either, he had his beliefs and he acted accordingly.
We can agree to disagree, I semi-agree with this but on the other hand, he did want to be in control due to his beliefs and the Divine having opposing beliefs. But, that's more for one to interpret, I suppose.
I refuse to take away any other example I posted, though.
Umm what about the part of non mages being 2nd class citizens and not able to hold political office.
Not true, well not technically. Mundane families who are known for giving birth to mage children can hold power. Not the highest power but they can be royalty.
Clearly!!! I've been mistaken this entire time! I need to reevaluate my entire stance on this war.
So refusing to allow another candidate take over Kirkwall and take seat in the throne, crowning him/her Viscount, because they want to rule, doesn't make you power hungry?
1.i answered that already...
2.She took power to control mages not to seek power well and because she was insane that another reason.
Alrik was just one Templar, but he sure seemed to have quite a few nameless that followed along with his evil scheme.
I pointed that already it is anyway great socre for organisation current police is much more corrupted than few peoples...
Well lets see blights , army of harvesters , tevinter empire 1 mage children killing 72 peoples , 1 mage children taking over castle and village without problems and creating army of undeads. and much more disasters sponsored by mages mostly 1 person is only required.
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