Exactly. Loghain, a general for decades, can fall to a City Elf.
Whom by this point is an expreinced Warden but i digress that is the truth of it.
A man who defeated an Orlaisian Lord Commander in single combat, killed who knows how many elite knights and bannermen during the rebellion can fall to basically...well a gutter churl.
Just sayin'. Adrian isn't the patient type, and having murdered once and gotten away with it without losing anything she valued all that much, and getting everything she wanted from it, makes it that much more likely she'll turn to it again if she thinks things aren't proceeding to her satisfaction.
Fiona better step to the right tune or watch her back.
I really do hope that lady eventually gets whats coming to her, if not by the PC then some one.
Just sayin'. Adrian isn't the patient type, and having murdered once and gotten away with it without losing anything she valued all that much, and getting everything she wanted from it, makes it that much more likely she'll turn to it again if she thinks things aren't proceeding to her satisfaction.
Fiona better step to the right tune or watch her back.
She had to be pressed pretty hard before doing so. I think she's more or less trustworthy.
I really do hope that lady eventually gets whats coming to her, if not by the PC then some one.
I hope that neither you nor anyone else gets the chance.
pfff pc is like chuck norris s/he doesn't need 40 years to be good warrior they need only rocky music 
I hope that neither you nor anyone else gets the chance.
DA is pretty good at being able to punish murderers.
The trend likely will continue.
Just sayin'. Adrian isn't the patient type, and having murdered once and gotten away with it without losing anything she valued all that much, and getting everything she wanted from it, makes it that much more likely she'll turn to it again if she thinks things aren't proceeding to her satisfaction.
Fiona better step to the right tune or watch her back.
Guess so. Fiona looks like a second Anders to me.
Guess so. Fiona looks like a second Anders to me.
lmao how? because she called a vote?
lmao how? because she called a vote?
Because she put others into a situation to die for her politics when they didn't share them?
Calling for a vote of secession when things are on edge that, when it caused the last conclave to be ended and the college closed indefinitely?
Not many responses can be gained from such an act.
Less direct then a bomb but no less intent on achieving the same result.
i agree with fiona thing and even strange that many pro-templars condemns adrian and anders for being an extremist when templars are full of them i mean sure i want kill fiona and adrian or use them and then kill because they are obstacles on my way but hey they at least do something that may work when it comes about improving mages situation...
Because she put others into a situation to die for her politics when they didn't share them?
Calling for a vote of secession when things are on edge that, when it caused the last conclave to be ended and the college closed indefinitely?
Not many responses can be gained from such an act.
Less direct then a bomb but no less intent on achieving the same result.
It was going to happen anyway, with or without Fiona's vote.
It's like a teacup that overflowing with tea, what are you going to do? Try and contain for as long as possible, knowing it's not going to work while hot tea spills out everywhere? Or just deal with it head on?
It was going to happen anyway, with or without Fiona's vote.
It's like a teacup that overflowing with tea, what are you going to do? Try and contain for as long as possible, knowing it's not going to work while hot tea spills out everywhere? Or just deal with it head on?
So her pushing the subject, causing the entire incident is to be forgiven because...what? it may have happened eventually?
I cannot support that reasoning.
lmao how? because she called a vote?
Because both of them consider the templars and the chantry to be slavers. Both are willing to sacrifies alot in order to get what they deem neccessary. Both are able to live with the consequences of what they are doing, as long as they are able to free the mages. I always liked Anders, but I don´t know alot about Fiona.
lmao how? because she called a vote?
So her pushing the subject, causing the entire incident is to be forgiven because...what? it may have happened eventually?
I cannot support that reasoning.
It's not "it may have", it was inevitable. Support it or don't, it doesn't change that it was coming. Kirkwall set everything in motion and mages saw that they didn't have to be held ad treated the way that they have been for years. That's literally how Asunder starts. It's a build up.
Fiona wanting more than a life of subjugation and servitude for her people apparently makes her the fulcrum of evil.
Clearly.
It was going to happen anyway, with or without Fiona's vote.
It's like a teacup that overflowing with tea, what are you going to do? Try and contain for as long as possible, knowing it's not going to work while hot tea spills out everywhere? Or just deal with it head on?
If that were true, Fiona wouldn't have been continually afraid of Wynne's interference. She knew that as long as someone was around to speak reasonably and rationally, she wouldn't be able to get the Conclave to vote from a position of knee jerk fear, which is the only way she was going to win.
Wynne was trying to contain something that was was getting much bigger than her and whatever interference she could use to sway the vote.
The Divine's interference, for instance? That's more than enough to start things up. More sway than what Wynne could ever be capable of.
It's not "it may have", it was inevitable. Support it or don't, it doesn't change that it was coming. Kirkwall set everything in motion and mages saw that they didn't have to be held ad treated the way that they have been for years. That's literally how Asunder starts. It's a build up.
It was what was coming?
The Circles were being contained, magic was being held in place.
The other circle that attempted to pull a kirkwall was entirely annulled. Stability and Order was being preserved, argue it as you wish, see it as you wish but until Fiona brought up her treason i saw nothing immediate coming right out of the woodwork that would magically upset the balance even more.
Like i said i don't support the reasoning she should be forgiven because she instigated something that perhaps could have occurred regardless.
And yet Fiona knew she couldn't win in opposition to Wynne. The Divine's support had nothing to do with Mage freedom. It may have been rooted in the desire to make Mage life easier, but it was never about abolishing the Circles. Fiona and Adrian took the gift and perverted it into a war. That would not have happened if someone with backbone had been around to call them on it.Wynne was trying to contain something that was was getting much bigger than her and whatever interference she could use to sway the vote.
The Divine's interference, for instance? That's more than enough to start things up. More sway than what Wynne could ever be capable of.
Wynne was trying to contain something that was was getting much bigger than her and whatever interference she could use to sway the vote.
The Divine's interference, for instance? That's more than enough to start things up. More sway than what Wynne could ever be capable of.
Enough to magically make the largest voting bloc in the conclave vote against their head member and what they stand for?
I doubt it.
Then I guess we'll just agree to disagree.
Then I guess we'll just agree to disagree.
This actually made me lol as Jennifer Hepler, Anders' writer, said that what Anders and Justice share is quite "intimate" as they share a body and soul. Given that Justice was quite masculine she said there is no reason Anders shouldn't be attracted to same sex as some people complained about that matter. (Anders hitting on male Hawke)
Now that I think about its quite awkward. A spirit is always watching you when you change your clothes or urinate or have sex. I mean just imagine it, no friendship or relationship can be that strong yet awkward at the same time. There is absolutely no secrets and everything you are is exposed to the spirit.
It happens.
Oh yes, lol quite a lot on these forums 
Do you think Lambert is still alive? I know the phrase "look into my eyes" has killed everyone else, I can't imagine him not in DA:I, though. Since he has such a huge part, you know?
He bloody well better be alive, i demand at least a five second cameo expressing that fact.
God has spoken.
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